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Emirates and most others will keep their orders. What else can they get that is so big. It is just a perfect opportunity for them to get them even more subsidised the taxpayers. After all isn't that what Airbus is all about? Teutonic and Gallic pride no matter what the cost.
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Contrary to what Airbus think... This will have a big negative effect in 2009/2010.
Heads need to roll for this and and any job losses are as a direct result of bringing the product to market far sooner than appropriate.
Current A380's are constantly going tech.
Heads need to roll for this and and any job losses are as a direct result of bringing the product to market far sooner than appropriate.
Current A380's are constantly going tech.
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Launching 777 in 1990 United forced Boeing to “treat us at a new level of respect (to) work with us to deliver something(never)delivered before(:a)service-ready airplane (that)works” K.Sabbagh,21st.Century Jet,Scribner,96,P53: that author had "access".
Very grizzled Ppruners remember concrete tie-downs on a couple of dozen 747-100 gliders, Everett, 1970. That got fixed and the type transformed all our lives. Don't gloat about A380, just wait for the same outcome.
Very grizzled Ppruners remember concrete tie-downs on a couple of dozen 747-100 gliders, Everett, 1970. That got fixed and the type transformed all our lives. Don't gloat about A380, just wait for the same outcome.
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Some 747-100 milestones:
Dec 1965 - Letter of Intent signed with Pan Am
Sep 30,1968 - Rollout
Dec 17,1968 - Scheduled 1st Flight - delayed
Feb 9, 1969 - 1st Flight
Dec 1969 - Scheduled EIS commitment to Pan Am - delayed
Jan 21, 1970 - EIS with Pan Am and 1st NY-London service
Jul 16,1970 - 1 million passenger mark passed
There were deliveries of 92 747-100s in 1970. Over 1400 of the original jumbo jet have been delivered thus far.
The amazing part to me is that not unlike Concorde, another revolutionary machine of the time, engineers utilised not much more than paper, pencils and
slide rules. to design these aircraft.Chasing the Sun
Sorry for the sidebar - now back to the Super Jumbo.
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Read "The Sporty(Sporting?) Game" by John Newhouse. Covers the history of the widebody airline developement.
First 747's had concrete blocks hanging from the pylons. Pratt was late with the engines and the planes would fall on their tails without some weight on the pylons.
Part of the reason Pratt was late was the 747 was too heavy and they needed more power.
First 747's had concrete blocks hanging from the pylons. Pratt was late with the engines and the planes would fall on their tails without some weight on the pylons.
Part of the reason Pratt was late was the 747 was too heavy and they needed more power.
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Lufthansa will accept a few A330s (5) for an interim solution while they await delivery of the big bus. The airline has also ordered 30 of the narrow body A320 series for a combined total at list prices of a little over 3 billion US for a vote of great confidence from Europe's No 2 airline.
Emirates are hardly likely to tin their order, given the investment they've already made on it (unless Seattle made it so attractive for them to do so with a 748 pitch... ???). Likewise any of the other large early-orderers. Too much money spent at this stage. Boeing couldn't buy them all back to the 747 fold. What will be interesting, is what the residual value profile looks like in a year or two.
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A380 Scheduled Announcement Could Come As Early As Friday
French newspaper LaTribune, citing unidentified company officials, says Airbus may make an announcement about A380 delivery schedules as early as Friday -- this according to Bloomberg.
Airbus is in the midst of big problems with its new A380 program. Just how big no one really knows, and Airbus, of course, isn't talking. But from all external indications, it's big. LaTribune reports there are internal rumors Airbus may end all A380 program-related activities at its Hamburg, Germany plant.
You may remember all the shakeups with company leadership earlier in the year -- mucky mucks with EADS, Airbus' parent company, getting fired for selling stock, Airbus leadership replaced when the first round of A380 delays were announced, etc., etc. And just last week the European planemaker told its customers to expect even more delays because they were having trouble with the plane's 300 miles of wiring.
After Airbus announced that second program delay -- in less than three months -- EADS said they hadn't had enough time in looking things over to determine exactly how much the latest delay would impact the program, time and dollar-wise. Bloomberg estimates cost overruns might total $5.5 billion before everything is said and done; company earnings might be hit for $1 billion a year.
Following Airbus' surprise announcement last week, EADS told the circling media wolves to expect more information about Euros and schedules in around four weeks. With this latest report from France, it now looks as though someone lit a fire over at Airbus.
Perhaps Korean Air Lines' announcement they would seek compensation from Airbus for the delays has prompted company leadership to move a little faster, and hammer out whatever issues besides wiring might be interfering with getting this program airborne.
French newspaper LaTribune, citing unidentified company officials, says Airbus may make an announcement about A380 delivery schedules as early as Friday -- this according to Bloomberg.
Airbus is in the midst of big problems with its new A380 program. Just how big no one really knows, and Airbus, of course, isn't talking. But from all external indications, it's big. LaTribune reports there are internal rumors Airbus may end all A380 program-related activities at its Hamburg, Germany plant.
You may remember all the shakeups with company leadership earlier in the year -- mucky mucks with EADS, Airbus' parent company, getting fired for selling stock, Airbus leadership replaced when the first round of A380 delays were announced, etc., etc. And just last week the European planemaker told its customers to expect even more delays because they were having trouble with the plane's 300 miles of wiring.
After Airbus announced that second program delay -- in less than three months -- EADS said they hadn't had enough time in looking things over to determine exactly how much the latest delay would impact the program, time and dollar-wise. Bloomberg estimates cost overruns might total $5.5 billion before everything is said and done; company earnings might be hit for $1 billion a year.
Following Airbus' surprise announcement last week, EADS told the circling media wolves to expect more information about Euros and schedules in around four weeks. With this latest report from France, it now looks as though someone lit a fire over at Airbus.
Perhaps Korean Air Lines' announcement they would seek compensation from Airbus for the delays has prompted company leadership to move a little faster, and hammer out whatever issues besides wiring might be interfering with getting this program airborne.
No matter what the news and numbers are, an official announcement would be progress, would it not ?
"EADS told the circling media wolves" ? Non ?
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Meanwhule there's also good news for EADS:
Lufthansa will accept a few A330s (5) for an interim solution while they await delivery of the big bus. The airline has also ordered 30 of the narrow body A320 series for a combined total at list prices of a little over 3 billion US for a vote of great confidence from Europe's No 2 airline.
Lufthansa will accept a few A330s (5) for an interim solution while they await delivery of the big bus. The airline has also ordered 30 of the narrow body A320 series for a combined total at list prices of a little over 3 billion US for a vote of great confidence from Europe's No 2 airline.
Yes, you've got me there, however I still think that there is a small 'by association' benefit.
Emirates are hardly likely to tin their order, given the investment they've already made on it (unless Seattle made it so attractive for them to do so with a 748 pitch... ???). Likewise any of the other large early-orderers. Too much money spent at this stage. Boeing couldn't buy them all back to the 747 fold. What will be interesting, is what the residual value profile looks like in a year or two.
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don't know if this has been mentioned elsewhere - AB have completed wake vortex testing for 380:
Details of the key elements of the guidance for ICAO Heavy, Medium, and Light aircraft categories:
Vertical Spacing
Vertical spacing in all cases to be the same as for other aircraft
Evidence and data from encounter flight tests at cruise altitude, supported by airborne LIDAR measurements, have demonstrated that the A380 wake characteristics are equivalent to those of the B744 (chosen as the benchmark aircraft) for this phase of flight. Therefore, the current ICAO vertical separations are confirmed to be appropriate for A380 operations.
Horizontal spacing en-route
En-route horizontal spacing to be the same as for other aircraft
Holding
Vertical spacing to be the same as for other aircraft
Approach / Landing
No wake constraint for the A380 as a following aircraft
A380 followed by Heavy = +2nm extra to existing ICAO separation (6 nm absolute distance)
A380 followed by Medium = +3nm extra to existing ICAO criteria (8 nm absolute distance)
A380 followed by Light = +4nm extra to existing ICAO separation criteria (10 nm absolute distance)
Departure following A380
No wake constraint for the A380 as a following aircraft.
Same radar spacing as for Approach / Landing
Or, for time based operations: Heavy = 2 minutes; Medium, Light = 3 minutes
Details of the key elements of the guidance for ICAO Heavy, Medium, and Light aircraft categories:
Vertical Spacing
Vertical spacing in all cases to be the same as for other aircraft
Evidence and data from encounter flight tests at cruise altitude, supported by airborne LIDAR measurements, have demonstrated that the A380 wake characteristics are equivalent to those of the B744 (chosen as the benchmark aircraft) for this phase of flight. Therefore, the current ICAO vertical separations are confirmed to be appropriate for A380 operations.
Horizontal spacing en-route
En-route horizontal spacing to be the same as for other aircraft
Holding
Vertical spacing to be the same as for other aircraft
Approach / Landing
No wake constraint for the A380 as a following aircraft
A380 followed by Heavy = +2nm extra to existing ICAO separation (6 nm absolute distance)
A380 followed by Medium = +3nm extra to existing ICAO criteria (8 nm absolute distance)
A380 followed by Light = +4nm extra to existing ICAO separation criteria (10 nm absolute distance)
Departure following A380
No wake constraint for the A380 as a following aircraft.
Same radar spacing as for Approach / Landing
Or, for time based operations: Heavy = 2 minutes; Medium, Light = 3 minutes
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Am I really, really stupid or is this not significant!! I read this in the paper today and winced!! In light of all the delays and comment I am amazed that this has not recieved more attention on this site.
Forget the politics of this thing for a moment.
I was wandering around the A380 production facility a few months back - at 1630 on a Friday. The place was almost whacky it was so (completely) empty.
I bumped into some Welsh guys over on contract later that night, they were really amused by the lack of organisation and the overall laid back attitude to it.
Great aircraft, just sounds like the wrong management...
I was wandering around the A380 production facility a few months back - at 1630 on a Friday. The place was almost whacky it was so (completely) empty.
I bumped into some Welsh guys over on contract later that night, they were really amused by the lack of organisation and the overall laid back attitude to it.
Great aircraft, just sounds like the wrong management...
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Virgin Atlantic gets A380 delivery update
From the Houston Chronicle:
PARIS — Virgin Atlantic Airways Ltd. said Monday it received tentative information on the length of delays to the Airbus A380 superjumbo, as the board of Airbus parent EADS prepares to give the green light for a revised delivery timetable.
"We have been contacted by Airbus on the likely shape of a new delay," Virgin Atlantic spokesman Paul Charles said in a telephone interview without elaborating.
EADS is expected to approve the new timetable as soon as Tuesday.
Some airlines had indicated that cancelations of their orders could not be ruled out after EADS confirmed Sept. 21 that deliveries of the 555-seater superjumbo will be pushed back a third time. Dubai-based Emirates, the biggest A380 customer, said its 45-plane deal was "up in the air," and Virgin Atlantic had said the delays could affect its orders for six superjumbos.
Virgin Atlantic's Charles would not say whether changes to the order remain a possibility in light of the new information received from Airbus.
"We're still waiting for them to confirm some detailed schedules," Charles said.
Spokespeople for Emirates, Lufthansa and Air France declined to comment on whether the airlines had received any new information from Airbus on their orders.
But a person close to Airbus, who asked not to be named because the talks are confidential, said the plane maker is presenting the new production schedule to customers in order to gauge potential compensation claims and their impact on EADS profits.
European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co. shares closed 1.2 percent lower at euro22.40 (US$28.41) in Paris. The stock plunged 26 percent on June 14 after Airbus announced a second six-month A380 delay and euro2 billion (US$2.5 billion) profit warning.
The crisis led to the sacking of Airbus boss Gustav Humbert and EADS co-CEO Noel Forgeard _ who remains under investigation by market authorities after it emerged that he exercised stock options at a profit of euro2.5 million (US$3.2 million) just weeks before ordering an internal probe into the delays.
EADS is tightening its control over Airbus and is expected to buy BAE Systems PLC's 20 percent stake in the plane maker. BAE shareholders vote Wednesday on a management recommendation to go ahead with the euro2.75 billion (US$3.5 billion) sale.
German magazine Der Spiegel reported Monday that German politicians are discussing whether the government should buy a stake in EADS if its largest shareholder, Stuttgart-based DaimlerChrysler AG, sells all or part of its 22.5 percent stake.
Without citing sources, Der Spiegel reported that state-owned bank KfW could buy the EADS shares with privatization proceeds. A government spokesman described the report as "speculation" but declined to comment further.
DaimlerChrysler and Lagardere SCA announced in April that they were each selling 7.5 percent of EADS, leaving the German carmaker with a 22.5 percent stake and the Paris-based defense and media company with 7.5 percent. The French state owns 15 percent stake of EADS.
"We have been contacted by Airbus on the likely shape of a new delay," Virgin Atlantic spokesman Paul Charles said in a telephone interview without elaborating.
EADS is expected to approve the new timetable as soon as Tuesday.
Some airlines had indicated that cancelations of their orders could not be ruled out after EADS confirmed Sept. 21 that deliveries of the 555-seater superjumbo will be pushed back a third time. Dubai-based Emirates, the biggest A380 customer, said its 45-plane deal was "up in the air," and Virgin Atlantic had said the delays could affect its orders for six superjumbos.
Virgin Atlantic's Charles would not say whether changes to the order remain a possibility in light of the new information received from Airbus.
"We're still waiting for them to confirm some detailed schedules," Charles said.
Spokespeople for Emirates, Lufthansa and Air France declined to comment on whether the airlines had received any new information from Airbus on their orders.
But a person close to Airbus, who asked not to be named because the talks are confidential, said the plane maker is presenting the new production schedule to customers in order to gauge potential compensation claims and their impact on EADS profits.
European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co. shares closed 1.2 percent lower at euro22.40 (US$28.41) in Paris. The stock plunged 26 percent on June 14 after Airbus announced a second six-month A380 delay and euro2 billion (US$2.5 billion) profit warning.
The crisis led to the sacking of Airbus boss Gustav Humbert and EADS co-CEO Noel Forgeard _ who remains under investigation by market authorities after it emerged that he exercised stock options at a profit of euro2.5 million (US$3.2 million) just weeks before ordering an internal probe into the delays.
EADS is tightening its control over Airbus and is expected to buy BAE Systems PLC's 20 percent stake in the plane maker. BAE shareholders vote Wednesday on a management recommendation to go ahead with the euro2.75 billion (US$3.5 billion) sale.
German magazine Der Spiegel reported Monday that German politicians are discussing whether the government should buy a stake in EADS if its largest shareholder, Stuttgart-based DaimlerChrysler AG, sells all or part of its 22.5 percent stake.
Without citing sources, Der Spiegel reported that state-owned bank KfW could buy the EADS shares with privatization proceeds. A government spokesman described the report as "speculation" but declined to comment further.
DaimlerChrysler and Lagardere SCA announced in April that they were each selling 7.5 percent of EADS, leaving the German carmaker with a 22.5 percent stake and the Paris-based defense and media company with 7.5 percent. The French state owns 15 percent stake of EADS.
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Latest news over the wire....10 month delay, interesting times ahead.
Ananova:
More Delays For Airbus Superjumbo
European planemaker Airbus has dealt another blow to airlines expecting delivery of the new A380 superjumbo passenger jet.
It has told both Emirates and Virgin Atlantic that there will be another 10-month postponement.
The company's parent EADS warned last month that there would be a delay - the third - but has only now released details.
It means that Emirates will not now receive its first planes until August 2008 at the earliest.
The Dubai-based carrier said the situation was "very serious" and would now be reviewing all its options.
It is the biggest customer for the £200m plane, with 43 on order.
Sir Richard Branson's Virgin has orders for six.
Wings for the 555-seat aircraft, the biggest in the world, are built by Airbus UK at its facility in Broughton, north Wales.
Problems with the wiring of the ultra-sophisticated A380 have caused the delays.
The first postponement announcement - in June this year - led to a management shake-up at Airbus.
The A380 was first unveiled in January 2005 at a ceremony at Airbus headquarters in Toulouse, southern France, attended by Tony Blair.
The plane first flew a few weeks later and its first non-commercial passenger flight was safely completed this summer.
Some 16 airlines to have ordered A380s. Other carriers who will be buying the plane include Qantas and Air France.
Ananova:
More Delays For Airbus Superjumbo
European planemaker Airbus has dealt another blow to airlines expecting delivery of the new A380 superjumbo passenger jet.
It has told both Emirates and Virgin Atlantic that there will be another 10-month postponement.
The company's parent EADS warned last month that there would be a delay - the third - but has only now released details.
It means that Emirates will not now receive its first planes until August 2008 at the earliest.
The Dubai-based carrier said the situation was "very serious" and would now be reviewing all its options.
It is the biggest customer for the £200m plane, with 43 on order.
Sir Richard Branson's Virgin has orders for six.
Wings for the 555-seat aircraft, the biggest in the world, are built by Airbus UK at its facility in Broughton, north Wales.
Problems with the wiring of the ultra-sophisticated A380 have caused the delays.
The first postponement announcement - in June this year - led to a management shake-up at Airbus.
The A380 was first unveiled in January 2005 at a ceremony at Airbus headquarters in Toulouse, southern France, attended by Tony Blair.
The plane first flew a few weeks later and its first non-commercial passenger flight was safely completed this summer.
Some 16 airlines to have ordered A380s. Other carriers who will be buying the plane include Qantas and Air France.
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From Bloomberg News
Emirates to `Review Options' on New Airbus A380 Delay (Update1)
By Will McSheehy and Andrea Rothman
Oct. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Emirates airline, the largest customer for Airbus SAS's A380, said it will ``review all of its options'' after being told delivery of its first superjumbo will be delayed an additional 10 months to August 2008.
``This is a very serious issue for Emirates,'' spokesman Mike Simon in a phone interview today, reading from a statement written by President Tim Clark. ``We've started a review to see how we can minimize impact on our expansion plans.''
The company is ``not talking about compensation at the present time,'' Simon said, though the issue may be pursued ``at a later date.'' It now expects to receive four A380s in 2008.
Emirates, the biggest Arab airline, ordered 45 of the 555-seat A380s and in June said it will receive its first delivery in October 2007. That's a year later than originally scheduled when the Dubai, United Arab Emirates-based carrier signed for the planes.
``These are very strong words for Emirates and catastrophic news for Airbus,'' Doug McVitie, managing director of the Dinan, France-based aviation consulting firm Arran Aerospace, said in a phone interview. `For Emirates this is a matter of prestige, not of penalties. I'm hearing it's increasingly likely Emirates will defer or cancel half its order, perhaps in favor of Boeing's passenger 747-8 planes.''
Airbus, controlled by European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co., first disclosed construction delays in 2005, then announced further delays June 13 when it slashed its delivery forecast for 25 planes in 2007. Airbus can probably deliver just four A380s next year, less than half the number it predicted in June, three people with knowledge of the plans said Oct. 1.
Firm Orders
Airbus has 159 firm orders from 16 customers for the plane, which has cost at least $13.5 billion to develop. The A380's delays have angered airline customers, who are demanding compensation, and have also prompted the departure of two top executives and the demotion of the executive who ran the A380 program.
Boeing Co., the world's No. 2 commercial aircraft maker, is counting on the new 747-8 passenger plane to help it fight off competition from the A380. Planning for the passenger-version configuration of the plane will be finalized in mid-2007, the Chicago-based company said Sept. 25.
EADS shares have lost 31 percent of their value this year, and Toulouse, France-based Airbus is trailing Boeing in orders for the first time in five years.
Singapore Airlines Ltd., scheduled to be the first carrier to operate the A380, yesterday said it is waiting for details from Airbus on further delays. In July the Asian carrier said it may order nine more of the superjumbos, taking its total to 19. Its first A380 delivery is currently due in December, more than six months behind the initial schedule.
Airline Frustration
While no customer has said it will cancel its order, airlines have begun expressing their frustration. U.K. billionaire Richard Branson, chairman of Virgin Atlantic Airways Ltd., indicated Sept. 27 that the airline will stick with its order for six A380s only if the plane offers the passenger load and range promised.
``We would like the plane if the plane is delivered as originally promised,'' Branson said. ``We'll have to wait and see if Airbus can overcome these problems.''
Airbus has told Virgin Atlantic its A380s will also be subject to further delays, spokesman Paul Charles said in a phone interview today. The airline will say more ``this evening or tomorrow morning,'' he said.
Airbus blames the A380 delays on the complexity of installing 300 miles of wiring in each of the double-decker planes. The wires are bundled in harnesses that are strung through the aircraft, controlling in-flight entertainment, lights, air conditioning and the plane's operating systems.
Airbus allowed each customer to customize the entertainment systems, adding to the challenge of getting the correct wire in the right place.
Emirates to `Review Options' on New Airbus A380 Delay (Update1)
By Will McSheehy and Andrea Rothman
Oct. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Emirates airline, the largest customer for Airbus SAS's A380, said it will ``review all of its options'' after being told delivery of its first superjumbo will be delayed an additional 10 months to August 2008.
``This is a very serious issue for Emirates,'' spokesman Mike Simon in a phone interview today, reading from a statement written by President Tim Clark. ``We've started a review to see how we can minimize impact on our expansion plans.''
The company is ``not talking about compensation at the present time,'' Simon said, though the issue may be pursued ``at a later date.'' It now expects to receive four A380s in 2008.
Emirates, the biggest Arab airline, ordered 45 of the 555-seat A380s and in June said it will receive its first delivery in October 2007. That's a year later than originally scheduled when the Dubai, United Arab Emirates-based carrier signed for the planes.
``These are very strong words for Emirates and catastrophic news for Airbus,'' Doug McVitie, managing director of the Dinan, France-based aviation consulting firm Arran Aerospace, said in a phone interview. `For Emirates this is a matter of prestige, not of penalties. I'm hearing it's increasingly likely Emirates will defer or cancel half its order, perhaps in favor of Boeing's passenger 747-8 planes.''
Airbus, controlled by European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co., first disclosed construction delays in 2005, then announced further delays June 13 when it slashed its delivery forecast for 25 planes in 2007. Airbus can probably deliver just four A380s next year, less than half the number it predicted in June, three people with knowledge of the plans said Oct. 1.
Firm Orders
Airbus has 159 firm orders from 16 customers for the plane, which has cost at least $13.5 billion to develop. The A380's delays have angered airline customers, who are demanding compensation, and have also prompted the departure of two top executives and the demotion of the executive who ran the A380 program.
Boeing Co., the world's No. 2 commercial aircraft maker, is counting on the new 747-8 passenger plane to help it fight off competition from the A380. Planning for the passenger-version configuration of the plane will be finalized in mid-2007, the Chicago-based company said Sept. 25.
EADS shares have lost 31 percent of their value this year, and Toulouse, France-based Airbus is trailing Boeing in orders for the first time in five years.
Singapore Airlines Ltd., scheduled to be the first carrier to operate the A380, yesterday said it is waiting for details from Airbus on further delays. In July the Asian carrier said it may order nine more of the superjumbos, taking its total to 19. Its first A380 delivery is currently due in December, more than six months behind the initial schedule.
Airline Frustration
While no customer has said it will cancel its order, airlines have begun expressing their frustration. U.K. billionaire Richard Branson, chairman of Virgin Atlantic Airways Ltd., indicated Sept. 27 that the airline will stick with its order for six A380s only if the plane offers the passenger load and range promised.
``We would like the plane if the plane is delivered as originally promised,'' Branson said. ``We'll have to wait and see if Airbus can overcome these problems.''
Airbus has told Virgin Atlantic its A380s will also be subject to further delays, spokesman Paul Charles said in a phone interview today. The airline will say more ``this evening or tomorrow morning,'' he said.
Airbus blames the A380 delays on the complexity of installing 300 miles of wiring in each of the double-decker planes. The wires are bundled in harnesses that are strung through the aircraft, controlling in-flight entertainment, lights, air conditioning and the plane's operating systems.
Airbus allowed each customer to customize the entertainment systems, adding to the challenge of getting the correct wire in the right place.
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Report of Streiff speech, including:-
Which presumably means no airline service until about Christmas 2007?
A380
First things first: An A380 production and delivery schedule our customers can count on. I will cut straight to the chase. As we have informed our A380 customers over the past few days:
· The first A380 will be delivered to Singapore in October 2007.
· In 2008 we will deliver 13 A380s (to Singapore, Qantas and Emirates)
· In 2009, 25 A380s will leave the Final Assembly Line
· The industrial ramp-up will really be achieved 2010, when we shall deliver 45 A380s, including the first freighters.
This means another delay of over one year on average. It is very disappointing that we find ourselves in this situation, but we need to be realistic with ourselves and our customers. It is the most reliable schedule we can deliver today following our in-depth review of the A380 programme.
First things first: An A380 production and delivery schedule our customers can count on. I will cut straight to the chase. As we have informed our A380 customers over the past few days:
· The first A380 will be delivered to Singapore in October 2007.
· In 2008 we will deliver 13 A380s (to Singapore, Qantas and Emirates)
· In 2009, 25 A380s will leave the Final Assembly Line
· The industrial ramp-up will really be achieved 2010, when we shall deliver 45 A380s, including the first freighters.
This means another delay of over one year on average. It is very disappointing that we find ourselves in this situation, but we need to be realistic with ourselves and our customers. It is the most reliable schedule we can deliver today following our in-depth review of the A380 programme.