Wikiposts
Search
Airlines, Airports & Routes Topics about airports, routes and airline business.

Oasis Airlines

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11th Apr 2008, 10:47
  #81 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: OXF
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Further reporting from Namibia about OASIS-Air Namibia hookup...

http://www.az.com.na/wirtschaft/flie...plan.65159.php (in German)

I'll translate:

== begin translation ==

Owners of leased Boeing in bankruptcy

Windhoek - Despite the bankruptcy of Oasis Airlines (Hong Kong), from whom Air Namibia currently leases a Boeing 747-400, the state-owned airline operates as planned, announced Air Namibia in writing yesterday. It would "ensure that there is no disruption to the timetable, and operations will continue as normal," said Ben Dahwa, director of engineering and flight operations.

Wimpie van Vuuren, head of Air Namibia for Europe in Frankfurt / Main, explained on Wednesday evening after being contacted by Allgemeine Zeitung, that they had heard on Wednesday of the developments in Hong Kong. The airline Oasis had gone into liquidation, the firm KPMG had been appointed as bankruptcy administrator. "We want to avoid any unnecessary damage, and are working to find a solution," said van Vuuren. His colleague Dahwa assured AZ that the premature termination of the lease contract was a possibility and that the company was searching for a suitable replacement aircraft, which would meet the needs and requirements of Air Namibia.

The Boeing will be used by Air Namibia as replacement, as an Airbus A340-300 is currently in maintenance.

== end translation ==

I stand corrected on my previous view on SW being hard-up

S.
VAFFPAX is offline  
Old 11th Apr 2008, 11:57
  #82 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Manila
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I can believe it has happened. I used Oasis 6 times in “C” in their first 3 months and then one night turned up at LGW, flight canceled. Fast taxi to LHR to catch the last BA. No back up aircraft or alternative flight and for the past 12 months BA have been only 25% more expensive. I will miss them a lot but only because prices will now go up. Yield too low, lots of students and pensioners.
mybrico is offline  
Old 11th Apr 2008, 17:01
  #83 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Where its at
Age: 40
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Doors to Automatic

I agree- certain aspects of your idea are already employed with great success by the middle eastern airlines (Emirates, Qatar, Gulfair etc, who fly sectors of under 8 hours with a connection in the gulf).

What I dont understand is that apparently Oasis broke even after six months. What happened? I fly LON-HKG regularly and the cheapest Oasis fares were actually quite expensive towards the end, comparable to BA, AF et all and actually more expensive than Air New Zealand. Why did they increase their prices? It is price which ultimatly drove away customers.
Anansis is offline  
Old 11th Apr 2008, 17:18
  #84 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: London
Posts: 182
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I am sure that low cost long-haul could work but you need a certain size to achieve that. If you only have two aircraft and three routes then you can't afford to have a standby aircraft to cover unserviceability and maintenance.

It also becomes difficult to roster rotations efficiently, and you end up with long periods on the ground. A large airline can use early morning arrivals from the far east to go out straight away to the states, or afternoon arrivals from the east to do the overnight trips to South Africa etc.It is very expensive to do check in, handling, engineering etc. if you only have a couple of departures a day spaced out by nine or ten hours, and sales, advertising, even catering need volume to get the best price.


I suspect if you had at least half a dozen aircraft then it could work, but not with fewer.

Last edited by Seat1APlease; 11th Apr 2008 at 17:46.
Seat1APlease is offline  
Old 11th Apr 2008, 17:48
  #85 (permalink)  

ex-Tanker
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Luton Beds UK
Posts: 907
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Shame

Good luck boys,

Also the ones from HLQ FUK!
Few Cloudy is offline  
Old 12th Apr 2008, 05:12
  #86 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: uk
Posts: 772
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Like everyone else i feel sorry for the crews and staff APART FROM THE BOSSES. They have probably milked enough from the business to be sitting pretty. Unfortunately it is my (and thousands of others) money they have. I booked a few days ago and now I reckon there is little chance of seeing a penny. So to the bosses of Oasis go yourself.
westie is offline  
Old 12th Apr 2008, 05:40
  #87 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Sydney
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think the next to try will be AirAsia. I wish them well.
umm AirAsiaX - Kuala Lumpar to Gold Coast
using A330s
moa999 is offline  
Old 12th Apr 2008, 06:12
  #88 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: House
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Good luck guys

I know many pilots from my old firm were there. Best of luck to you all. Sorry it turned out this way.
jet999 is offline  
Old 12th Apr 2008, 10:12
  #89 (permalink)  

Controversial, moi?
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 1,606
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
I booked a few days ago and now I reckon there is little chance of seeing a penny.
Small consolation and I know it is currently fashionable to knock BA but they are offering a reasonable deal to help people such as yourself.

See: http://www.etravelblackboardasia.com...id=52423&nav=2
M.Mouse is offline  
Old 12th Apr 2008, 13:21
  #90 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Home
Posts: 1,948
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Westie

If you paid by credit card, try for refund through them or through your travel insurance.
TSR2 is offline  
Old 14th Apr 2008, 09:27
  #91 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: OXF
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
umm AirAsiaX - Kuala Lumpar to Gold Coast
using A330s
And SRB has his fingers in that one too.

:-)

S.
VAFFPAX is offline  
Old 14th Apr 2008, 09:36
  #92 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: OXF
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Oasis' demise has had a slightly unwanted effect on SW. Their flight WDH-FRA for 13 April was cancelled and rescheduled for this morning 10am. The flight certificates for Oasis were withdrawn and SW has had to lease a 767-300 from NO in Italy. It only arrived this morning to be turned around.

:-\

S.
VAFFPAX is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2008, 08:53
  #93 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Asia
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Refund from credit card Issuer

Well, I've had problems in the past with HSBC (Hong Kong) credit card refunds in Hong Kong due to Hong Kong's pathetic Consumer Credit Laws. HSBC cites "difficulty of obtaining proof " if default occurs by a merchant based outside Hong Kong.Interesting to see if HSBC credit card company will shoulder the loss in this sad case.
Guava Tree is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2008, 12:58
  #94 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: manila/hong kong
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
All the best

to all crew it was a pleasure working with you all, all the best...
exfly is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2008, 20:42
  #95 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: uk
Posts: 772
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you paid by credit card, try for refund through them or through your travel insurance.
TSR2, thanks for you advice. I have sent off a claim but as yet, nothing. Your comments are much appreciated and if anyone else has any advice as to whether I can get any moeny back then this would also be appreciated. Like everyone else i feel sorry for the crew but I am also feeling sorry for my bank balance which has been robbed (fraudulently in my view as they must have known they were going to go bust) of a lot of cash.
westie is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2008, 19:17
  #96 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I just wonder if they could lower their fares. With oil prices at $110, they suffered a loss every plane they fly
A very sad news
Bye Oasis
icecone is offline  
Old 23rd Apr 2008, 21:29
  #97 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Milan MXP
Age: 48
Posts: 411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Who will buy the five 747 of Oasis fleet?
cesare.caldi is offline  
Old 23rd Apr 2008, 21:40
  #98 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Leeds
Posts: 702
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
umm AirAsiaX - Kuala Lumpar to Gold Coast
using A330s
Less of the plural.

Try 'A330'.

25 on order, 1 in service.
harrogate is offline  
Old 24th Apr 2008, 09:07
  #99 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: uk
Posts: 772
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you paid by credit card, try for refund through them or through your travel insurance
TSR2,

Your post ws a great help to me and I want to thank yuo personally for that. After your comments I took some legal advise and have today received a full refund from my credit card company. You are right in that if you paid by c/c, there is an inbuilt protection and by asking for a 'chargeback' I was able to secure a reund. If we meet in the future, there's quite a few beers coming yuor way! Maybe one of the benefits of PPRUNE?
westie is offline  
Old 24th Apr 2008, 20:56
  #100 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Home
Posts: 1,948
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'll hold you to that Westie. Glad you got a positive outcome.
TSR2 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.