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Old 24th Aug 2017, 21:30
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It's probably gone tech mate, just like the rest of the EA fleet do on a regular basis
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 10:12
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A new paint job seems plausible. After all, JK has been wearing its non-standard blue and white for a few years and the Flybe tie-up presents a good opportunity.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 12:48
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Think backbone might be helping out until November now. Not sure how true this is tho. We shall see .
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 12:58
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Eastern '76' flight numbers

Originally Posted by BAladdy
Looks like all T3's flight numbers are changing from the start of W17 schedule on 29OCT17. All flights will continue to operate using the T3 prefix but will operate with 4 digit flight numbers starting 76 (T376XX) Any one know the reason for this?.
Is this not likely to be in preparation for switch to BE rather than T3 prefix, re forthcoming Flybe franchise, i.e. to then become BE76xx? Loganair's Flybe franchise flights used a 66xx to 69xx sequence, and Blue Islands utilise 63xx to 65xx. 76xx seems like a resonable option for Eastern, and doesn't conflict with any other Flybe flight no sequences? Any thoughts?
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 13:33
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I've heard Flybe are getting shot of Eastern's Saab 2000s which may have already been mentioned on here. I can see them eventually getting shot of the Jetstreams and before you know it a franchise arrangement will become a very quiet takeover.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 19:49
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J41 JK is stripped of paint at EMA, so will presumably become the first T3 a/c in BE colours.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 20:12
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Some of these J41s have worn several liveries over the years. Manx, Loganair, British Midland (G-MAJA), one or two BA, Eastern and now FlyBe. I hope the old paint is removed before the new paint is applied, in order to minimise weight gain.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 21:44
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I suspect a bit of weight gain (!) is the least of their worries....
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 22:16
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It does sound like they are desperate to get bums on seats ... Particularly in their cockpits
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 22:43
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Aren't ATR 72s due to join the fleet soon?
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 07:20
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i dont think Flybe would want to takeover a company with millions in financial losses, an old fleet, no staff and even less passengers.
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 09:16
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Eastern is very much more at risk in this battle than Loganair; and from within. Eastern has owners with an additional raison d'être and who may object to pointlessly incurring losses on an airline.

I would hesitate to say that Eastern is worth as much as £1 as a whole. Someone else might want to try their routes (I have no idea who; there isn't a good fit anywhere), but nobody would buy the company in its present condition.
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 09:19
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Originally Posted by 01475
Eastern is very much more at risk in this battle than Loganair; and from within. Eastern has owners with an additional raison d'être and who may object to pointlessly incurring losses on an airline.
I thought Eastern had stated from the outset that FlyBe was taking the commercial risk?
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 10:14
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I read a report a few months ago that said revenue and risk were shared. Was that incorrect?
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 17:54
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It is shared. But I don't know the details.
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 21:12
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Over the last 20 years or so, has Eastern not made the owners a shed load of money? Way more than they put in. Genuine question. Anecdotally it seems at least.
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 21:35
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Originally Posted by 01475
Eastern is very much more at risk in this battle than Loganair; and from within. Eastern has owners with an additional raison d'être and who may object to pointlessly incurring losses on an airline.

I would hesitate to say that Eastern is worth as much as £1 as a whole. Someone else might want to try their routes (I have no idea who; there isn't a good fit anywhere), but nobody would buy the company in its present condition.
excuse my ignorance butvi this why the airline has it's base at HUY but only one route from.there in year upon year ?.
Surely your base is where you'd have ' prestige routes '?.
Maybe they'd be better relocating over to Doncaster to one of those services offices to cut overheads and operate services from.there as a hub.
Leaving DTV And HUY With ABZ/NWI.
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 22:40
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It owns Humberside, which I imagine is why Bristow wanted the company; they can do a lot with Humberside even if Eastern can't.

If it wasn't for that then I guess their natural base might have been Aberdeen. They're not the only airline this sort of thing has happened to, of course.

But will Eastern make a shedload of money in the next 20 years?

The thing going for it is that it is the rare example of an airline that benefits from high oil prices. The thing going against it is that it appears to be the airline of an era that doesn't exist any more; hence why it is trying to see if it can get in on Loganair's game instead. A tie up with FlyBe may be what it needs though; who knows. It may be able to pick up some of the sorts of routes that FlyBe would give up on because its plans are too big. But other than that it can't compete. Every time something starts to do well someone comes along with a bigger plane to take advantage of it. And FlyBe customers aren't used to the premium fares; Bmi customers might have had more patience for them.

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Old 27th Aug 2017, 00:33
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Originally Posted by EGPO
excuse my ignorance butvi this why the airline has it's base at HUY but only one route from.there in year upon year ?.
Surely your base is where you'd have ' prestige routes '?.
Maybe they'd be better relocating over to Doncaster to one of those services offices to cut overheads and operate services from.there as a hub.
Leaving DTV And HUY With ABZ/NWI.

Why was British Midland (BMI) based in EMA when all their prestige routes were from LHR?

The answer is to base one's administration where office accommodation and general cost of living is cheaper.

British Caledonian proved such a point when for a period their operations department day to day managed the airline from a stand at the Ideal Home Exhibition.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 09:06
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BMI is/was based at EMA because that's where it was born. You tend not to move your head office operations unless there's a very good reason i.e. significant cost savings. It doesn't actually matter where your head office is as long as the time zone isn't massively different from when most of your ops depart.
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