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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 06:34
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While I haven't been up yet, looking at the new maps for the terminal it would appear that one of the more unique features of Cork Airport has been lost - that is the ability of the general public to view the runway from the terminal.

In the current terminal this is possible from the large coffee-type area on the first floor and the bar - in the terminal which preceeded this it was possible to view from the bar.

Now it would appear that all airside viewing is to be restricted to those at the departure gates ..... please tell me this isn't true
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 07:38
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will the old building be mothballed, knocked, redeveloped ??
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Smile Old building

No immediate plans for it but growing speculation that it will be knocked as doing so would enable the airport to have far more parking stands without having to purchase land to the north of the field.

It's possible to view the runway from the new restuarant area though there are two glass panels in the way. Red Bar is very welcoming.

Aggressive marketing strategy needed if growth is to be maintained.
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 15:46
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Indeed, huge shame about the apparent lack runway visiblity by non-passengers in the new terminal

Meanwhile the FR winter timetable for the Cork aircraft has changed slightly...

ORK - DUB 0740 - 0830 OK
DUB - ORK 0855 - 0945 OK
ORK - DUB 1000 - 1050 Should become 1010 - 1100
DUB - ORK 1115 - 1205 Should become 1125 - 1210
ORK - LGW 1255 - 1420 OK
LGW - ORK 1450 - 1615 OK
ORK - DUB 1725 - 1815 OK, but long break, no?
DUB - ORK 1805 - 1855 Should become 1840 - 1930
ORK - DUB 1955 - 2045 OK
DUB - ORK 2110 - 2200 OK

Also there seems to be no Sunday early morning ORK - DUB? Sleep in?
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 17:15
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perhaps AA have something up their sleves - maybe the single configuration 757 used on the SNN - BOS route may be heading to ORK-JFK, so this could just be wishful thinking on my part
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 17:27
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That's not the first time i heard that rumour but I think we have more of a chance of Delta/Continental to be honest
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 18:56
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Originally Posted by ryan2000

It's possible to view the runway from the new restuarant area though there are two glass panels in the way. Red Bar is very welcoming.
Yes the red bar is welcoming and I think it is possible to view departing/arriving aircraft in the food court, even though you are not directly looking at the runway.

I like the security gates. It looks good.
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 20:16
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can never understand why airport authorities can't grasp that the punters want to watch the planes and try to make it a lucrative income stream with baubles and trinkets under their noses for sale while they watch the airfield action....

oh yeah, i forgot... it's a bureaucracy not a private enterprise. apols ! :-)
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Problem is that recent years saw young children being left loose all over the 2nd floor of the old terminal.

There is now an attempt being made to change the culture of Cork Airport and to remind people that it's not a children's playground.

It is now hoped that passengers will move quickly to the Departure area after checking in as happens at every other airport in the Western World and that people will say their good byes at home and not bring the extended family to see them off for a 2 week break in Majorca.

Glad to hear that we've finally got a 21st public address system. The one in the old terminal was a disgrace along with the antiquated heating system.

Any more nostalgic tales about the old terminal before it closes?
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 21:28
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Originally Posted by lm06
can never understand why airport authorities can't grasp that the punters want to watch the planes and try to make it a lucrative income stream with baubles and trinkets under their noses for sale while they watch the airfield action....

oh yeah, i forgot... it's a bureaucracy not a private enterprise. apols ! :-)
They grasped this concept in Zurich very well apparantly. On top of the terminal there is a large viewing area looking over all the airside activities that can be accessed for something as little as €2. There are organised ramp visits and visits to the intersection of the runways for photos There are even holes cut in the perimeter fence at convenient locations for photographers to use. But is any of this mentality seen at Cork ??

I was a little disappointed to see that there was a lack of something as simple as proper toilet facilities. The main toilets are tiny, even smaller than the old terminal. Now the old terminal was designed to hold 1million and the new 5million. This doesn't seem to add up!
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 22:15
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New Terminal

I agree with Titan but again the facility was designed in the belief that passengers would spend the minimum of time landside. Airside facilities are far superior to the old terminal but the trick will be to get people to go through the Search area quickly. Other wise the landside facilities will become very congested.
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Old 3rd Aug 2006, 07:10
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The capacity is 3 million not 5 million! It has said it on their own website since the very beginning. The 5 million figure is one they say they can expand to by adding a pier to the north toward the cargo terminal (who'll pay for it?!).

The factors mentioned above are all genuinely annoying things for users, but the fact that this terminal was designed for 3 million, a number they may hit this year, is the biggest scandal of the lot.
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AA bos-snn

Looks like american are pulling out of bos-snn come october. I wonder will we see a service to cork ??
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Old 3rd Aug 2006, 08:59
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They've said they are taking the 757 out and replacing it with a 767 routing ORD-DUB-SNN-ORD.
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While I accept that 'tis better to say ciao at home, or at the front door of the airport, to those flying out... my point was mainly about visibility of the rways for those waiting to collect arriving passengers. I tend to be up there several times a month collecting friends, business associates, etc. and it was quite nice to able to look out on the runway, watch the a/c land and then see my friends get drowned on to the run in to the baggage hall. A lot of this would now appear to be lost. I accept the points about airside facilities being better, but it's just a shame. Another opportunity flushed.


... oh, and one last thing ... I noticed on some of the press piccies that the monitors at the check-in desks appear to be of the aul CRT-type. Who the heck made that call? I thought every fecker in the world had now gone across to plasma/LCD!!! Maybe Flor Griffin did them a deal on some old stock he had out the back
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Old 3rd Aug 2006, 20:38
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Route Support Scheme

Com'ere, are the airport making any song and dance about the "Route Support Scheme" that they have got going?

http://www.corkairport.com/images/ORKRSS2006.pdf

Like, did Cork airport go after the likes of Wizz Air and Centralwings, enticing them in with this scheme (hidden away on their airport charges page of the site: http://www.corkairport.com/business/...t_charges.html ), or was it Wizz Air and Centralwings who were the first to make contact with Cork airport?

Moreover, Ryanair harp on the scandalous Cork Airport charges, when in fact they could hugely benefit from this scheme (paying next to no charges) by using their Cork based aircraft to serve presently unserved destinations like Milan, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Murcia etc. instead of committing themselves to competing on the Dublin route!

I wonder to what extent this scheme has been utilised...
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Old 4th Aug 2006, 15:02
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Flyover Opened

The Kinsale Road (N25) Flyover opened this morning and should help traffic flow on and off the N27 to the Airport by freeing up the bottleneck that was the Kinsale Road Roundabout (or the Magic Roundabout as it was known locally)!

There are still some minor works to be finished and the traffic signals at the end of the airport hill are not swtiched on yet. I expect that most of the rest of this work and landscaping etc. will be finished shortly.

This is good news for anybody who has had to endure the traffic on the airport hill during the busy times of the day.
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Old 4th Aug 2006, 15:57
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Bedad, was not expecting the N25 flyover to open until October! This is very good news and should help to relieve the congestion at the horrid Magic roundabout and help cut down the amount of road traffic accidents. As bad as negotiating that roundabout is in a car taking it on a motorcycle has scared the bejaychus out of me so many times I have at last given it up and use what few alternatives there are get to and from the field.

Does anyone know what the intention is with Stand 6T? Apart from 737-500, A319 & ATR parking is there a plan to lay down more concrete anywhere near where the steel concrete supports are still exposed? Also, the old baggage hall is now just a shell and if that is to be knocked shortly and more concrete is put down will Stand 6T then be able to take aircraft up to A320 and 737-800 size?

It was good to see Cork Airport's new boss man, Mr Pat Keohane, taking such a hands on interest at the new terminal last night. He was on site for some hours taking in all the goings on both landside, airside and on the forecourt area. Mr Keohane is to be commended highly for this approach to the job. His presence there helped to keep the staff on their toes be it in a kind way!

I am still gathering my thoughts on my first review of the new terminal last night. Suffice to say for now that the airside area is only magnificent in it's aspect of length and height. Yes, it is not very wide but the sheer length of the area and the feeling of space it creates it is hard to beat. The terminal has an undoubtedly first class finish and in terms of public buildings it has got to be in every way the pride of Cork.
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Old 4th Aug 2006, 16:55
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Finally got to see the inside of the terminal yesterday afternoon. Having admired the outside for so many months, it was with great anticipation that I walked (the litter-strewn) journey from the new multi-storey car park down the terminal.

This is something I really wanted to like, so it kills me to say this, but I was really underwhelmed. I concur that the quality of the finishes is superb but it's really all very .... well ..... functional! Nothing 'wow' or 'quirky', or even particularly original - it could be any of a number of dozen other airports I've seen these past few years. Arrivals to yer right, departures to yer left, up them steps to food, beer, departure gates etc. All very 'predictable' ... even though I had 'predicted' something far more exciting.

Yes, it's a feckin airport and it has to be functional first and foremost, but for what was spent, it left me a little cold. Is this really the best we could have done? (... and don't get me started on those shaggin CRT screens again!)
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Old 6th Aug 2006, 12:44
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I know I sound silly but I like the CRT screens!

When I went to the terminal on August 1st I hated it!
Then I went on the 2nd and it was growing on me!

I now really like it!
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