FlyGlobespan - 2

[av8767]

Hi dwlpl, the Capetown starts 04 NOV twice weekly until 20th DEC when it starts 3 x weekly as planned.

[diesel36]

av8767 beat me too it..

nice trips for the crew in nov early dec

[gatwicknose]

As I have mentioned in the past...routes are always introduced with a trumpet and them withdrawn silently from the booking engine when they dont work... As my posts are always deleted by the powers that be and corrected by Webby 1919 who is responsible for GSM positive publicity this may not be here long. The airline business in far from philanthropic and GSM like anyone else will not sustain poor performing routes.....the growth is seeminly far too quick here....lets hope that Sir T of D doesnt get his fingers burnt!!

[webby1919]

Blah, blah, blah!!! Same old, same old. Gatwicknose - you always seem to pop up when GSM have done something negative - I think Mr Ds way of thinking is commendable - he doesn't operate a route that is going to run at a loss! That makes very good business sense - i wouldn;t be surprised if this route is replaced by another short route such as Chambery from Liverpool. Missing the good points - GSM have launched great routes for the Scottish public, from Euro routes to Longhaul routes such as LAS and BGI.

[daz211]

I dint think GSM would have any problem with any route
if they advertised I dont know what its like up north but
down here in the south the only place I have see an add
is on the BAA website
I dont know who in incharge of advertising for GSM
but In my eyes they are not doing a very good job
of it

[jabird]

Wasn't LPL - PRG basically a filler to ensure good a/c utilisation? Any suggestions for possible alternative route, especially considering existing comp from FR & U2 there?

[cwllpl]

There is no comp from Ryanair or Easyjet on the LPL - PRG route, there will only be globespan operating it.

[jabird]

cwllpl, I was refering to LPL as a base, not specifically LPL - PRG. U2 & FR already have plenty of routes - there are always plenty of opportunities for expansion, but putting bums in seats will always be harder for an airline with little other presence there.

LPL to PRG didn't seem to make much sense on its own merits, considering that U2 hadn't previously bothered. As a route to maximise a/c usage, then there is more logic to it, but it seems that loads were poor.

So, would they face the same problem operating another such route from LPL? As a long shot, there is still no competition on LPL-LON. Can think of numerous problems with such a route, but might that be one destination that GSM would have no problem marketing?

[gatwicknose]

question for you webby....

are you a current employee of GSM...just wondering....

I have no issues at all with TD he is a great businessman and has obviously found a niche for the scottish market... I have met him personally and spent time finding out what makes him tick. I just object to jingoistic posts..... in this case a route has been published and then stopped without explanation....previous posters are right....keep your public informed both positively and negatively.... its all well and good trumpeting new routes but you have to offer explanations when routes are canned...afterall Mr D thrives on publishing editorial on local press when he paunches a new service!!!

even webby would have to admit....quick to announce new things ...slightly slower to justify and announce failed routes?

[webby1919]

Yes I am, and happen to think that GSM are very successful, maybe this is down to not operating/dropping routes that are not profitable. The whole reason any company exists is to make profit ... GSM are the same!! As said before, PRG was a filler route to utilise the A/C. I'm sure that GSM will be around for a long time to come but maybe not as a private company. If expansion is to go UK-wide, I'm sure Mr D will have to float the company, but stay as head of the Board.

[jabird]

"even webby would have to admit....quick to announce new things ...slightly slower to justify and announce failed routes?"

GN, what makes GSM different from anyone else in this respect? Airlines only make a song and dance about stopping routes if they think they can blame someone else - e.g. the airport for high charges, or the government for continuing un-needed PSOs etc.

Webby, what do you think will replace LPL-PRG?

[daz211]

so as an insider whats going to happen at STN and will
it be any time soon ?

[Eff Oh]

Right on Webby!

[webby1919]

I'm not sure about STN - there was talks of launching longhaul, but not until next Summer. As for LPL, as it is maybe a bit late in the day to launch a new route, but time will tell. I think CMF would be a proposed route for LPL.

[Ametyst]

If Fly Globespan are so good then why when they stop a route do they not notify the passengers booked on the service.

I was (or am as far as I am concerned) booked on the Liverpool to Prague service. I have tried to get through by phone (Long wait, given up). I have sent an e-mail as to whether the flight is cancelled and more importantly when do I get my money back (No reply).

Good scam, start a route, take the money, earn the interest, return the money after earning interest in bank or aiding cash flow.

[diesel36]

ametyst

they do notify customers.

my mate was booked to go in dec and he got a phone call

said due to not enough interest it was been dropped

heres your refund... apologies

think they have done enough as far as he is concerned..

[Ametyst]

Thanks Diesel 36

However, all passengers should be informed not some passengers.

[diesel36]

when were you going

if after dec then you may be in the next lot to be told

if before dec then yes they should have told you.

[Ametyst]

Booked on first flight on 3rd November

[diesel36]

would have thought you would have been informed by know

my mate got told a couple of days ago

maybe they just missed you. sure they will get back to you.

hope you get it sorted....