FlyGlobespan - 2

[Richard Taylor]

Any nearer knowing which routes GSM are going to launch from their proposed ABZ base next year? Any announcement imminent?

Ta.

[johnrizzo2000]

Oh, thanks for clearing that up! I'm happy we will finally see GSM in Dublin! I hope we see further expansion from GSM in Dublin, and I hope their YHM route is succesful! When I first read the thread, I though it said Dublin-YHZ, and I thought they were crazy starting so many routes out of Halifax!

[afterdark]

GSM May 2007 Transatlantic so far ..... maybe !

Glasgow to Boston no frills + premium eco = 737-700/757 daily
Glasgow to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 daily
Glasgow to SFB no frills + premium eco + business = 767 daily
Glasgow to Calgary no frills + premium eco + business = 767 Friday
Glasgow to Vancouver no frills + premium eco + business = 767 Friday & Monday

London Stansted to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 daily

London Gatwick to Calgary no frills + premium eco + business = 767 Tuesday
London Gatwick to Vancouver no frills + premium eco + business = 767 Tuesday & Thursday & Sunday

Manchester to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + buisness = 757
Manchester to Calgary no frills + premium eco + business = 767 Wednesday
Manchester to Vancouver no frills + premium eco + business = 767 Wednesday & Saturday

Liverpool to Newark no frills + premium eco + business = 757/767 daily

1 Liverpool to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Monday
2 Doncaster to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Tuesday
3 Exeter to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Wednesday
4 Birmingham to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Thursday
5 Belfast, Shannon & Dublin to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Friday
6 Edinburgh to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Saturday
7 Newcastle to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Sunday

** GLA - BOS / LPL -EWR no seat pitch yet ( poss aircraft undecided )
fits with romoured
4 x 757 ( Hamilton flights green shared 757 aircraft indigo based 757)
3 x 767 ( in red is shared 767 aircraft blue is based 767 aircraft )
2 x 737-700 ( one for GLA - BOS possibly + one for ABZ - TFS & Eastern Med or Red Sea areas )

[Pontious]

Afterdark

Do you also have the days or timings for the GLA-Las Vegas & GLA- BGI services?

Isn't the MAN-CPT 767 transferring to LPL for the S07 programme?

The 2nd 767 arrives mid October, what about the rest of the aircraft?

Are the 757's being operated on a damp lease?

[webby1919]

The LPL-EWR/JFK is operated on a B757-200!! The GLA-BOS is operated on B738.

As for the ABZ shorthaul flights, I've heard the usual destinations: ALC/AGP/PRG/BCN/TFS/PFO/FAO/PMI

Will have to wait and see - should be out shortly.

[Tosh McCaber]

Are they setting up a base in Aberdeen, or just commuting to/from there?

[webby1919]

A small base will open up for ABZ - a 1-aircraft base - B737-700.

[jabird]

What is the real advantage of JFK over EWR? Both have fairly similar two-staged ground transfers, JFK doesn't have the out-of-state taxi fares, but would that be enough of a reason?

Or - is this tie up which TD mentioned before when launching the Boston route going to be with a certain blue airline which has a presence at JFK and BOS?

[webby1919]

I also heard that Mr D was looking at code-share and onward transfers for the BOS route, so that may tie up with his plans.

[gatwicknose]

Not wanting to be rude...but I doubt very much whether a certain Blue airline would be interested in such an association...they do pretty well unassisted

[goldeneye]

Now firstly im not knocking GSM in anyway, but i really cant see two flights operating to Toronto from Exeter working, albeit to YHM with GSM and Air Transat have there YYZ flight (which Globespan have nothing to do with now). Is there really the demand for a Boeing 757 and an Airbus A310 on this route from the southwest, also both of them operating on a wednesday.

Not just EXT i suppose, theres going to be alot of flights operating to Toronto area next year.

4 airlines on GLA-TORONTO - GSM, TS, OOM, TCX
6 airlines on LON -TORONTO - AC, BA, TS, OOM, TCX, GSM
3 airlines on BHX - TORONTO - TS, GSM, AI
4 airlines on MAN - TORONTO - TS, OOM, TCX, AC, GSM.

[daz211]

The GSM flight is one day a week from exeter using a B757 this flight starts at stansted so most of the seat I guess will be sold to STN pax.
I dont see the problem at exeter being as big as you make out .

[Jamesair]

All of the Hamilton flts have been released for sale on the GSM website today with timing details.

[gatwicknose]

Zoom will flourish with that kind of suppport GAZ but Jetblue??? They make excellent profits and have been non alligned for quite a while so cant see the virtue from their point of view... However if webby is in the house today this simply proves that far from being altruistic the whole thing is in place to make money...dispite what the press are told.

[webby1919]

Ahem Gatwicknose

I'm here. There are rumours about JetBlue but I don't know if it'll happen. But I am certain that Mr D will more than likely keep looking for a code-share partner for connections from BOS onwards, it's bound to come sooner or later. No-one saw YHM coming!!! Will just have to wait and see. There are also rumours of a 4th B767 coming for S07 due to the increased expansion.

[Mr Gammon Flaps]

Where do you think they will base the 4th 767. Any goss on the routes. I heard Los Angeles was on the cards.

[webby1919]

There is also the possibility of the Red Sea, more South African destinations, LAX and SFO. Sydney is the destination that Mr D wants GSM to operate from GLA.

[Jet_stream]

Just back from SFB trip and was told on that by the Capt that 2nd 763 coming 22 October, 3rd 763 in service for Spring 2007 and 4th by Summer 2007. more than likely from NZ.

[Huyin]

Originally Posted by daz211

The GSM flight is one day a week from exeter using a B757 this flight starts at stansted so most of the seat I guess will be sold to STN pax.
I dont see the problem at exeter being as big as you make out .

Daz
Think I'll side with Goldeneye on this one.With a one stop each way for STN pax & if other flights through smaller stations are routed in the same way ,i.e. to STN,then surely the higher yield will be generated by the non stop (EXT) sectors, especially if STN can offer a choice of days to fly to Toronto .Thus ,the allocation of seats would be greater for EXT both on the grounds of yield & lack of frequency.The question seems to be as Goldeneye put it "Is there room for the 2 services?"
Another interesting aspect will be pax checking in for two airlines offering multi class service to two different Toronto airports alongside each other at the same time given that EXT has a MAX of 6 check in desks to contain this total operation.(Assuming there is no further clash with any other operator on the Wednesday)

[alangirvan]

It will be fantastic if GSM does come to SYD (and other cities in Australia and NZ - there are more cities than just SYD). GSM would want to find a couple of 777s to fly non-stop from GLA/STN to an Asian transfer point. Then put the pax onto a like minded Australian/Kiwi carrier to get them to their final destination.

(Is anyone good with a paintbox, to do an artists impression of a 777 in GSM colours?)