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Old 16th Jul 2006, 09:27
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Read your response with interest. Checked the April Caa stats. The Bacon service started 12 April. For April, The BHX - BHD route carried approx 23,500 pax, down 5%. The BHX - BFS route carried approx 16,700, up 73%. That says a lot. Although when you look at the additional charges ex BHD, it is no wonder that pax are moving in increasing numbers to BFS.

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Old 16th Jul 2006, 13:52
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Re bmi B's new domestic route, when is any annoucement due?

bmibabyfc said we were "close" with INV, so I assume it's in Scotland somewhere, but not INV itself. NCL ain't "close" to INV, then again neither is anywhere else!

Then again, neither is my place!

Any other clues bmibabyfc? If not INV, would I need to head down the A9 or across the A90 for the answer? Re the destination, what is the area famous for (I'm fishing for clues)?

If it is GLA, would that be necessarily a surprise, given that bmi B already fly BHX-EDI?
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Old 16th Jul 2006, 16:54
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Oban.

Ha ha ha!
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Old 16th Jul 2006, 20:12
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Baby's new route really has to be either GLA or CDG for the timings to fit in the current fleet plans. With only one spare aircraft on the ground for a morning rotation though, would either of these destinations be viable on a once daily service?I know we are just months into the BA connect business plan, but do we have any idea actually how well they are doing and whether they are keeping to any targets set by the powers that be? The loads on the BCN and MAD seem relitively high and a couple of others are ok but on the whole, pax wise, other destinations are lagging well behind the competition, BE, WW and LH. IF BACON dont pull up their socks and regional operations do get severly cut back / stopped completely - what does the future hold for BA at BHX? Could we see GB Airways put in there for the previously mentioned viable routes or even mainline on some W patterns from LHR or LGW?
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Old 16th Jul 2006, 20:50
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all will be revealed soon my friends!

as previously stated its not an airport that bmibaby currently fly into or out of..... so i guess that rules GLA out, which by the way is now x4 daily from EMA.
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Old 17th Jul 2006, 23:34
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Wouldn't be Dundee would it ? Failing that I'm going with Aberdeen....
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Old 18th Jul 2006, 09:31
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Originally Posted by bmibabyfc
... so i guess that rules GLA out, which by the way is now x4 daily from EMA.
I would think CDG then. It's served (only) twice daily ex EMA (WW5251/5253), plus BA Connect and Air France/CityJet could use some competition on the route (considering the fares they typically charge).

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Old 18th Jul 2006, 10:15
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CDG is domestic then? Here's me thinking CDG was in France.
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Old 18th Jul 2006, 10:31
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Who said it HAD to be domestic? INV would probably not fill a 737 (not even a -500) from BHX. Then again, if it does turn out to be domestic, why not JER - to turn the heat on Flybe?

What BHX needs (apart from a takeover by BAA ) is a number of NEW routes (ex: Central Europe, Baltic States, Balkans, Austria, etc)

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Old 18th Jul 2006, 10:33
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Thought I might add to this.
Baby have pulled the Knock from MME so could there be a new route heading MME's way? maybe BHX? Probably a bit to short a route to be operated by a 737. If not could the two (MME and BHX) get the same service ie. both into INV?
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Old 18th Jul 2006, 11:10
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I was going by bmibabyfc saying that it was:

i. domestic and, ii. "close" to INV, earlier in the thread.

He could have been joking of course!
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Old 18th Jul 2006, 18:07
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Winter 2006/7 Schedules

Ryanair - Same as now with a few timing adjustments most noticeable
the Sunday am flight is now around midday.

SkyEurope - Yes a strange one. Twice a week as now similar timings but
on a Thursday & Sunday and at the moment it does not
operate between 28/10 and 14/12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The service was apparently under review and all the other
winter schedules were loaded well before BHX.

The rumour was an increase in frequency and better timings.
The CAA stats prove the service is not working as it is!

Air Malta - Hurrah good news, showing as 4 a week Mo, Tue, Thur and Sat evening. Doubled from last winter!

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Old 19th Jul 2006, 21:32
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PIA at BHX

Following on from the Stansted news or rumour of the new service there
is a possibility that BHX will be getting a 777 on a couple of the flights.

Nothing is showing on the various websites (just like the Stansted service)
but local info suggests it is going to happen.

CAA stats for BHX- ISB show good loads but once again no info known re yields.

Anyone else heard anything?

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Old 20th Jul 2006, 18:24
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Heard from PIA engineers that B777 sat/sun from end of month.
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Old 20th Jul 2006, 18:49
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PIA 777

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Cheers for that, should make Saturdays Interesting: -

2 x AI 777
1 x EK 773
1 x PK 777
1 x EK 330
1 x TS 310

Plus the TOM 763 is in and out three times, also I think the TOM 762
is also due to be based from the end of the month (can anyone confirm?).

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Old 20th Jul 2006, 22:44
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Wouldn't be Dundee would it ? Failing that I'm going with Aberdeen....
Not unless BMI Baby have a drastic change to their fleet. Wont get a 737 into Dundee.
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Old 23rd Jul 2006, 13:44
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Originally Posted by OltonPete
Following on from the Stansted news or rumour of the new service there
is a possibility that BHX will be getting a 777 on a couple of the flights.

Nothing is showing on the various websites (just like the Stansted service)
but local info suggests it is going to happen.

CAA stats for BHX- ISB show good loads but once again no info known re yields.

Anyone else heard anything?

Pete

First PK was due to be today, been replaced by A310 AP-BEG
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Old 23rd Jul 2006, 20:28
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Thats strange because we wern't expecting them til next weekend anyway. Me thinks someone in BIA got their dates mixed up
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Old 26th Jul 2006, 10:28
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Any news on this new route for August, which was due to be announced shortly (as of last week)?

Jethroes is now showing three more 733's due at some point, are these
extras or replacing some of the 735's?

Also are they ex Easy machines and if extra to the fleet is there any
possibility that BHX might get a 6th based?

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Old 26th Jul 2006, 10:38
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Regarding PIA, the airline will commence its twice weekly Stansted service ( Tue and Sat) from 1st of August.Hopefully BHX should see a 777 service on the weekends.
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