ISLE OF MAN

[gayford]

The same equipment has been used effectively at Ronaldsway for some 15 years !!

[bonatti]

i dont think iom loaders machinery can be at blame,both loaders and caterers have to get extremely close to aircraft and so yes,accidents will happen and do happen at airports all over the world,not just the iom.

The iom loaders,in general,dont give a damn when they hit an aircraft with no appology offered. They know there will be no comeback and whilst many might think they must be punished,we must have a no-blame culture to encourage reporting of ALL aircraft damage.We all know that even the the slightest ammount of damage to a pressurised hull can be catastrophic if not reported!

Maybe something discreet like a re-training session is the answer.

[Tinwald]

'The same equipment has been used effectively at Ronaldsway for some 15 years !!'

gayford fella - the same equipment has been used effectively at Ronaldsway to put holes in aircraft for some 15 years !!

bonatti mate, we must have a no-blame culture to encourage reporting of ALL aircraft damage. Yessir but thats the problem - the barstools know there's no blame and hence no incentive, like a P45, not to do it again.

[FS01]

On a larger scale the Isle of Man govrnment has to save money with the cuts to VAT revenue. A simple way to do this would be to privatise the loaders. They are overpaid for the job they do! Salaries of between £25-40K are extortionate for a bunch of baggage monkeys!

[jetstreamtechrecords]

In that case I'll give up tech records and become a loader instead. £40k yes pleeze.

[RVF750]

Bit harsh...

Some of them are very good and decent workers, including the one that unfortunately hit the EZY the other week.

Some aircraft are more loader resistant than others, the 146 appears to have been built with them in mind.....

They are made by Mallaghan, but I've only seen them at BHD before.

The IOM airport insists on left hand drive ones as well, which means Flybe can't use the rear steps. A pain and often the cause of being unable to make up delays.

[fredtheanorak]

How is the big orange bus from LPL doing into Ronaldsway. My man at BE said the loads were rubbish beffore TT, decent over TT and now back to rubbish again. Is that a fair picture?

[IOMspotter]

EasyJet loads are all over the place. Good at TT and weekends OK but some other days less than 20 on the A319.

[Tonyq]

IOM pax figures for May out today. Down 14% because of ash issues early in the month.Easyjet averaging 53 pax per flight - 34% loads, for the 10 days of the month they operated.LPL overall was flat, which was better than most major routes which were obviously well down. However some of this will be hospital traffic which was with Manx2 in 2009, and is now in the BE LPL numbers, rather than new traffic generated by Easy.

[IOMspotter]

Yessir 30% down in april and 15% down in may but Ann Reynoldsway was on the radio today yakking about better numbers for June. Cant see it myself even with the extra EasyJets a pop festival last weekend and megga weather

[Tonyq]

Passed through IOM today as Easyjet came and went.

16 PAX inbound, 13 PAX outbound. This must surely be in the running for EZY's least successful route ever........

FlyBe must be pssing themselves over these numbers..........

Wonder how long they'll keep this charade up for?

[jetstreamtechrecords]

Yowee. Are those figures representative of Easy s loads or just one bad day? I see BE and Manxy2 have both chopped their fares to compete.

[atprider]

I'm guessing the proposed new "per plane" duty could make Manx 2 have kittens? Or is their small size likely to exempt them from it??

Might increase the incentive to pax to use easysqueazy or Flybe if the head tax is replaced?

[Tinwald]

Fellas and this is a rumour network after all. Chat down the Albie that a ceertain local operator had cash problems last month late pay. anyone else heard anything? Hope its just a glitch.

[pabely]

Easy

Just pushing a thought into the fire, with LPL changing owners and thus the agreement with Easy becomes void??? Might they make more money doing a rotation to MAN?

[dwlpl]

If there is an agreement why would it become void?

[Tonyq]

I'd imagine that the new owners of LPL would only permit changes to agreements about movements, pax numbers etc. if it was to their advantage to do so.

I can't see that MAN would work any differently. It is the wrong aircraft, with the wrong frequency, at the wrong time of day (except perhaps at weekends). End of story!!

[dwlpl]

So, again, why would a change of owner alter contracts that are in place?

[kestrel757]

When a company, or a controlling stake in it, changes hands the new owners acquire the assets and assume the liabilities of the company, which include any pre-existing commercial agreements previously agreed by the company with other parties, which remain in force. The share transfer therefore will make no difference whatsoever to the status of any agreement Peel may have had with easy or any other operator.

[dwlpl]

When a company, or a controlling stake in it, changes hands the new owners acquire the assets and assume the liabilities of the company, which include any pre-existing commercial agreements previously agreed by the company with other parties, which remain in force. The share transfer therefore will make no difference whatsoever to the status of any agreement Peel may have had with easy or any other operator.

Exactly.

I have my own ideas as to why this rumour/wishful thinking has become gospel.

Further, about ten days ago Peel Airports sold approx 65% of it to Vancouver Airport Services. Two days ago EZY announced a new Liverpool route and said there will be more new route announcements later this year.

So given both 'events' it appears that EZY are more than happy with its Liverpool operation stating 'we plan to expand further from this key base' and it dealings with the owners.