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the Sou route has far more pedigree and surely on Manx's smaller planes it would create good yeilds. Worth a shot
The monthly figures show the ripple effect EZYs operations have had on all other carriers ex IOM...
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Anyone at Reynoldsway know what happened to the EZY from LGW yesterday (Sunday).
It was well out over the Irish Sea towards the island, when it turned back and diverted to LPL. Eventually arrived over two hours late on a different aircraft, whilst the original one had already departed LPL to MAD.
It was well out over the Irish Sea towards the island, when it turned back and diverted to LPL. Eventually arrived over two hours late on a different aircraft, whilst the original one had already departed LPL to MAD.
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Airbus types can go tech occasionally too. LPL is a maintenance and crew base to logical to pop in there I would think rather than be stuck on the Island like the other crew who had the bird strike just before Christmas and somehow didn't fancy going to LPL but turn back for a 3 hr delay for passengers.....
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Just going back to the euromanx v Flybe part of the thread, don't assume too much regarding the competition.
As far as I am aware, Flybe held the heavy maintenance contract for EMs aircraft. When EM went under and flew the aircraft off island under the cover of darkness, proior to the AOC suspension, they went to Exeter, and sat in storage with Flybe before being sold on/handed back.
As far as I am aware, Flybe held the heavy maintenance contract for EMs aircraft. When EM went under and flew the aircraft off island under the cover of darkness, proior to the AOC suspension, they went to Exeter, and sat in storage with Flybe before being sold on/handed back.
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Slapdash8. A German company carried out the heavy maintenance for Euromanx. They also provided the engineers for line maintenance. The Austrian AOC holder allied to, and with the knowledge, and co-operation of EM management flew the aircraft to Flybe to avoid paying their debts to the German maintenance provider. it was one of the unsavoury episodes surrounding the last few months of EM. If I am correct, the son (who was the CEO at the time) of the former owner of EM has set himself up as an independent aviation consultant in the penal colony he calls home. If you check on any of the aviation fleet websites, I think you will find that the Dash 8, 200 and 300 were purchased by a company in North America.
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Slapdash8. A German company carried out the heavy maintenance for Euromanx. They also provided the engineers for line maintenance. The Austrian AOC holder allied to, and with the knowledge, and co-operation of EM management flew the aircraft to Flybe to avoid paying their debts to the German maintenance provider. it was one of the unsavoury episodes surrounding the last few months of EM. If I am correct, the son (who was the CEO at the time) of the former owner of EM has set himself up as an independent aviation consultant in the penal colony he calls home. If you check on any of the aviation fleet websites, I think you will find that the Dash 8, 200 and 300 were purchased by a company in North America.
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Interesting to see easyJet LGW service cancelled today (as it was yesterday) while FlyBe soldier on. Assume that easy as one of LGW's biggest operators are obliged to cancel flights when the flow rate gets reduced (as BA do at LHR) and (as again with BA) domestic services get chopped first?
Well done FlyBe though.
Now see the departure is marked "overnight delay etd 1640". Does that mean the aircraft got in yesterday and wasn't able to return to LGW? If so I should be less critical!
Well done FlyBe though.
Now see the departure is marked "overnight delay etd 1640". Does that mean the aircraft got in yesterday and wasn't able to return to LGW? If so I should be less critical!
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The Lgw was cancelled by Easyjet on Friday as well, and did not go yesterday while as you say Flybe continued to fly, well done to them.
I hope our local politicians are taking note of what has happened.
The inbound leg today is still showing as cancelled as was the outbound until recently so wonder why the change in status. Esayjet site now showing going tomorrow instead.
I would think Easyjet operations see cancelling it as an easy way to recover some delays. It will be fun if Flybe do pull out of the Island
I hope our local politicians are taking note of what has happened.
The inbound leg today is still showing as cancelled as was the outbound until recently so wonder why the change in status. Esayjet site now showing going tomorrow instead.
I would think Easyjet operations see cancelling it as an easy way to recover some delays. It will be fun if Flybe do pull out of the Island
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Quote: "Interesting to see easyJet LGW service cancelled today (as it was yesterday) while FlyBe soldier on. Assume that easy as one of LGW's biggest operators are obliged to cancel flights when the flow rate gets reduced (as BA do at LHR) and (as again with BA) domestic services get chopped first?"
AT BA, AFAIK, and probably other carriers as well, the idea is to cancel some of the flights on high frequency routes rather than the once/day flights. The former tend to be short haul, the latter long haul.
Makes sense, with high freqency flights, at least pax can reach their destinations sometime the same day, even if it means using large equipment as flights are "combined".
It's probably a little less disruptive than to cancel lower frequency long haul flights, which would mean capacity problems the next day, and aircraft on the wrong continent, etc..
Obviously load factors, particularly premium business load factors, also play a part in determining which flights are cancelled.
Weather conditions at the destination airports have to be considered, of course, which in the case of short haul flights, are likely to be similar.
AT BA, AFAIK, and probably other carriers as well, the idea is to cancel some of the flights on high frequency routes rather than the once/day flights. The former tend to be short haul, the latter long haul.
Makes sense, with high freqency flights, at least pax can reach their destinations sometime the same day, even if it means using large equipment as flights are "combined".
It's probably a little less disruptive than to cancel lower frequency long haul flights, which would mean capacity problems the next day, and aircraft on the wrong continent, etc..
Obviously load factors, particularly premium business load factors, also play a part in determining which flights are cancelled.
Weather conditions at the destination airports have to be considered, of course, which in the case of short haul flights, are likely to be similar.
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I actually flew down to Lgw on Friday evening and came back on Saturday with Flybe and apart from an hours delay outbound it all went fine.
Surprisingly enough there were lots of Easyjet planes landing and taking off down there so methinks the excuse given for cancellation of "weather at LGW" was a little odd.
I wonder how have Easy looked after their IOM pax since Friday?.
Surprisingly enough there were lots of Easyjet planes landing and taking off down there so methinks the excuse given for cancellation of "weather at LGW" was a little odd.
I wonder how have Easy looked after their IOM pax since Friday?.
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The EZY IOM service has been cancelled every day since Friday. Only a couple of other EZY services from LGW out of the several hundred they will have operated over that time have also been cancelled according to the LGW website. Why would this be?
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If the Airport Director was half the man she seems to think she is, she'd be on the blower to EZY HQ to find out why they are lying about the weather conditions at IOM, and trying to shift the blame for recent serial cancellations.
I just wish the local media here had the gumption to pick these issues and ask some awkward questions. It would be quite timely when the Open Skies policy is under formal review.
I just wish the local media here had the gumption to pick these issues and ask some awkward questions. It would be quite timely when the Open Skies policy is under formal review.
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Q) egtt/qfilt/iv/nbo/a/000/999/5405n00437w005
b) from: 13/01/21 10:45 c) to: 13/01/22 09:00
e) deicing facilities not avbl for acft larger than js31. Limited
facilities avbl for small acft only
LPL-IOM-LPL was prior to the notam
b) from: 13/01/21 10:45 c) to: 13/01/22 09:00
e) deicing facilities not avbl for acft larger than js31. Limited
facilities avbl for small acft only
LPL-IOM-LPL was prior to the notam
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Didnt know Easyjet operations were IOM based
You can defend them all you want, and I use them for most of my European flights, but its not good to cancel for 3 days running when others on the same route manage to fly.
You can defend them all you want, and I use them for most of my European flights, but its not good to cancel for 3 days running when others on the same route manage to fly.