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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 16:46
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Cityjet (as VLM) had a great window of opportunity to make IOM-LCY their own during last hiatus on the route, after Euromanx went bust, and before RE took the IOM Government's 'shilling' to re-instate it, so doubtful they will see things differently now.
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 17:58
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As a general rule, companies tend not to learn from their mistakes. Therefore, if this good opening is seen (proven and trusted route) it will be by another carrier.
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 18:36
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Problem is that there are hardly any regional airlines left that could take over the route. I happenend to flip through a "UK Airlines 2012" supplement to a aviation mag the other day and they had to include companies like "Glass Eels" with its sole Cessna 208 to fill the pages.... Sign of the times.
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 19:24
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Originally Posted by stab3.5up View Post
Would manx2 not try the dub route?
Up against Aer Lingus/Aer Arann? RE are only pulling off LCY-IOM, not DUB-IOM.
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 09:17
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AirportDirector on the local radio station saying that they were talking to people and hoped that the service might be provided by another operator. But as virginblue says, who's left? FlyBe have previously said they will not operate Q400s into LCY; that leaves Logie's Saabs or Eastern machinery. Or maybe (and I know I have said it before) BA Citiflyer.

But if the suggestion that Easyjet will be adding 600 seats a day to "London" Southend is true, who will want to take on competing with that, and with FlyBe's LGW operation?
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 10:43
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LCY based BA Cityflyer are expected to return to the lighter blue 'collective' after the summer, so maybe we will see a Jet service to London after all.

IOM-SEN-IOM?. Really?.
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 16:21
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Originally Posted by The Shop Floor View Post
LCY based BA Cityflyer are expected to return to the lighter blue 'collective' after the summer
Sorry if I am being obtuse - what "lighter blue collective" is this?
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 19:41
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Surely FlyBe will take the opportunity of increasing IOM-LTN?
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 19:50
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In the 15 or so years I used the LTN route (from when it started), the frequency never got above 1 per day and was usually 3 per week.
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 02:15
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After due considerations over a few pints at the Albie, I think the fella who mentioned - "lighter blue collective"- was subtly suggesting the BA lot get aborbed into flybe. Does BA a favour and after the world sports fortnight later in the year does BA need to fly the flag at the city any more. Good rumour to start from the Shop Floor, yessir
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 07:31
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Don't know if Loganair will attempt another IOM project, the BLK/BHD was a disaster.
The Saab fleet isn't steep approach modified, but the Dornier is.
It would be interesting to find out the loads on the RE flights?
Eastern have also had their fingers burnt by the Manx market, maybe Manx 2 could have a go in a LET410.
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 08:02
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tallaonehotel,

there is info on caa.co.uk website, go to
www.caa.co.uk/statistics and follow the links to provisional airport statistics, which are on the lhs of the screen.

It will show monthly totals of passengers flying between the airports.
Feb was 3175 wich compares to 3694 for the same month last year.

In addition, IOM government gives detailed analysis of numbers on all routes and by carriers;
go to www.gov.im/transport/airport/

you can see the detail as an attachment to the news item.

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Old 25th Mar 2012, 08:14
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6000 on the route in May 07.

talla fella - LETS will be literally going IN at LCY if you let them loose. And wasnt there talk that the airport wasn't interested in anything less than 50 seats and that's why eastern were scared off plus the high fees
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 09:08
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Tinwald, couldn't agree more with you on the Let!
The bean counters will be working out the figures, all down to the yield as we all know.
A sub 50 seat aircraft would be safe bet on the route, but again the charges can scare a few off.
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 09:10
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its gotta be a Suckling 328 leased to cityflyer or cityjet/VLM but will the lighter blue boys in Exeter allow it. They want the pax numbers back on LGW and LTN. Thats why they canned SOU to get LGW loads up again.
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 23:19
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I cannot believe you are even contemplating Manx2 on a Let in LCY, i wouldn't let an animal fly into there with them never mind on the LET
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 07:32
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Devil

Couldnt agree more with J41!

I was flying into Ronaldsway on friday morning, the ATIS was giving the weather at Ronaldsway as 2200 meteres in haze and few cloud at 700 ft.

We were ahead of the let that was coming in from BPL, we were astonished when the Let pilot requested a visual approach from the controller and got it

Pure madness! I am not a dog lover but J41 is correct, would rather use the ferry!
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 09:48
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Not sure the controller can decline the request if the visibility is above a certain figure (think its 800 metres from memory) and traffic permits, so there are no reasons to be surprised that they got what they asked for.
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 20:28
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It was a little tongue and cheek with the LET into LCY.
I think the island will have to put up with LGW or LTN for the meantime.
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Old 27th Mar 2012, 18:48
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What's wrong with the Van Air LETs? Just curious as I am flying on one to IOM next month...
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