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Old 27th Jul 2006, 10:09
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another. Press presence is evident.
Manchester shuttle base (Cabin Crew) to close. Staff receiving the hards words this morning. 3 months notice then out............
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3 months notice then out............
Do you mean 3 months then re-deployed or 3 months then P 45 ?

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Old 27th Jul 2006, 21:10
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Standard BA base closure terms. Redundancy, move to LHR or take BACON terms and conditions. As most of the MAN crews have been in the regions for many years none of these options are palatable. Quite a few tears before bedtime tonight.........
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Old 27th Jul 2006, 22:29
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Same thing happened to the BA engineers 5 years ago. Best of luck to all of you. For what it's worth I have always thought the MAN shuttle crews were the best. Friendly, no chips on shoulders and always gave my a hot brew on those cold damp Manchester mornings. We'll miss you.
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Old 28th Jul 2006, 14:36
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Dropping SOU-GLA. BE increasing to 6 daily.

Start of the end for BACON at SOU?

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Old 28th Jul 2006, 16:59
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BACON already announced they are closing SOU base
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BA Withdraw from BHD-BHX

BA withdraw from BHD-BHX from August 21 after only 3 and a bit months on the route.
Flybe announce increase in frequency and capacity on the route.
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Perhaps the lesson for BA Connect here is to move that big chunk of their current capacity away from the domestic routes on which they are rapidly losing ground to the likes of Flybe and Easy Jet, and instead focus on international business/city break routes from LCY, BHX, MAN and EDI. Surely most of the UK domestic flight options are now exhausted?
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Apart from the withdrawl of the BHX-BHD service, there is some slightly more positive news:

New LCY-MAD service twice daily
Increased IOM-LGW frequencies
Increased MAN-MXP frequencies
Extra weekend flights on BHX-ABZ
Extra weekend flights BRS-CDG

What does seem slightly strange is that in some of the news announced today there is a bit promoting the BACON BRS-TFS service which is operated by GB. But as it's quoted by DE himself, makes you wonder if the cat is out of the bag??
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Is MAD-LCY being operated with EDI crew, as with all other LCY flights and will the plane nightstop @ MAD?

Also with the extra IOM-LGW flights, will IOM-LTN be continued?
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 13:36
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Originally Posted by FlyboyUK
What does seem slightly strange is that in some of the news announced today there is a bit promoting the BACON BRS-TFS service which is operated by GB. But as it's quoted by DE himself, makes you wonder if the cat is out of the bag??
Interesting - what do you think the cat is? GB to take over operation of BACON? Are GB tied in to some of the Waterworld centralised overheads in the same way that BACON are? If not, and GB took over presumably that would slash BACON's costs in an instant (and increase BA's!)?
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 13:57
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BACON to take over operation of GB?

More chance of that happening???

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Old 1st Aug 2006, 14:06
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Originally Posted by airhumberside
Also with the extra IOM-LGW flights, will IOM-LTN be continued?
To answer my own quetion, the BA website shows IOM-LTN will be axed from the winter timetable
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 23:21
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Is MAD-LCY being operated with EDI crew, as with all other LCY flights and will the plane nightstop @ MAD?
The flt times show the aircraft leaving MAD at 0700 local. This suggests the aircraft must nightstop, having arrived at 2235 local the previous evening.
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Old 6th Aug 2006, 16:04
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Bacon at BHD

See on Flybe site an increase in services to Bhd from Man, some days up to 6 per day. Is this the move to kill Bacon off the Bhd to Man route and end the last BA service to Belfast?

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Old 6th Aug 2006, 19:13
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FlyBe to BHD

Flybe have increase BHX-BHD to 7 per day following BACON's decision to drop the route, I guess Flybe would like them off MAN-BHD too !

Flybe seemed to be going all out to kill BACON !

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Old 6th Aug 2006, 20:08
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As suggested by Damian, earlier,maybe BACON should give up trying to compete on major routes with Air France, Lufthansa & Flybe from MAN. Perhaps it would be better to develop more niche markets better suited to their smaller types. From MAN, I'd suggest Lisbon,Bilbao,Marseille, and Basel as a start, non of which have current direct flights from MAN.
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Old 7th Aug 2006, 08:03
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Originally Posted by Ian Farquharson
Flybe seemed to be going all out to kill BACON !
Ian
It would make a lot of sense, they have very similar business models, and with BACON having started to cut routes they look vulnerable to an agressively competitive strategy.
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Originally Posted by True Blue
See on Flybe site an increase in services to Bhd from Man, some days up to 6 per day. Is this the move to kill Bacon off the Bhd to Man route and end the last BA service to Belfast?

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I would say so. The once biggest airline in Belfast is now looking like a sitting duck. I will miss seeing the British Airways planes, the only real one you should see is a DH8 into Aldergrove every Saturday for a flight to Jersey in the summer season (operated by AirwaysHolidays though)
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BHX-Lyon

Another route with reduced frequencies in November.

It seems the evening flight is going to operate on a Monday & Friday only.

Chipping away slowly!

This winter thus far now has the following changes: -

No BHD (although this was not operating in winter 2005/6)

Edinburgh still six a day but 2 x RJ100 & 4 x 145 compared to 4 & 2 now
(5 & 1 last winter)
Paris CDG still 5 a day but 4 x 145 & 1 RJ100 compared to 2 RJ's & 3 145's
(3 RJ's last winter)
Berlin & Geneva will be extra to last winter but with the reduction to
3 RJ100's it seems things are happening at a reasonable pace.

Used Connect this week to BCN, on time, great crew, 70% full
out and 99% on the way back. Online check-in worked, aircraft okay
and the only downside was the food ran out on both sectors.
There was definitely a feeding frenzy on yesterdays flight but the other half had a strop as they ran out of cream teas. That was £4 less
to the Connect coffers but it all worked well other than that.

Get the right aircraft, right routes and the front-line staff will pull it off.
These 145's must be a real millstone around the neck, what a waste.

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