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Apparently there were problems chartering an aircraft, so passengers booked to go from DSA.
Presumably a bit far for a 717.
Presumably a bit far for a 717.
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It would appear that SAS have put their summer 2014 flights on sale. They also appear to have added a Tuesday rotation. Apparently they were analysing forward bookings for their initial season before committing to S14. However, it has been pointed out elsewhere that flights will be suspended during Christmas and Easter, though KLM also make seasonal reductions. Hopefully if the route becomes established they will make the route fully year round.
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In the December issue of the Thomson brochures (Dec 13), it shows Holidays to Majorca & Ibiza from Humberside, with airline TBA. Nothing has been confirmed yet, either by Thomson or the Airport, and nothing is on sale - but could we see Thomson making a comeback at HUY for summer 14?
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Nice to see loads of posts regarding the airport name change as reported in the local news. Any idea where the daft idea came from. Nearly as bad as calling Nottingham East midlands after Robin Hood. Sorry I mean Doncaster. Some bad guy that Sherif of Donaster!
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CAA stats indicate Humberside-Copenhagen had 514 pax in November and 408 pax in December
Assuming flights on 1-345-7 and nothing after 20 Dec, this suggests 12.2 pax per flight in November or about 13.6 pax per flight in December.
If we assume a 50 seat CRJ 200 then load factor for November is 24 % and December is 27 %
Of course without yields we have only part of the story
As a comparable, Humberside-Amsterdam saw a 0.4% increase in November to 9,586 pax and a 8% increase in December to 9,112 pax. Of course KLM use bigger aircraft at higher frequency on a long established route.
Norwich-Amsterdam grew 3% in November and 8% in December
While HUY-AMS didn't grow quite as well as NWI-AMS and SAS are getting some passengers, it seems KLM are largely unaffected by the introduction of SAS as a competitor at Humberside
Assuming flights on 1-345-7 and nothing after 20 Dec, this suggests 12.2 pax per flight in November or about 13.6 pax per flight in December.
If we assume a 50 seat CRJ 200 then load factor for November is 24 % and December is 27 %
Of course without yields we have only part of the story
As a comparable, Humberside-Amsterdam saw a 0.4% increase in November to 9,586 pax and a 8% increase in December to 9,112 pax. Of course KLM use bigger aircraft at higher frequency on a long established route.
Norwich-Amsterdam grew 3% in November and 8% in December
While HUY-AMS didn't grow quite as well as NWI-AMS and SAS are getting some passengers, it seems KLM are largely unaffected by the introduction of SAS as a competitor at Humberside
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Good luck to Humberside which I prefer to the ex Finningley set up. Mind you I am biased as I used to fly across to AMS from Humberside to pick up another international flight heading east.
I used to fly out of Robin Hood when it was Finningley and could never understand why it was being considered as a civil airport. The runway was almost north/south and where did the prevailing wind come from ? Yes West to East.
Until the coal mining ceased at Rossington, the subsidence it caused used to play havoc with the Simulator and the hangar doors.
Lastly, the gravel rights (as I recall) went up to the airfield boundary. When you dig a big hole it tends to fill with water and attract birds. Just what you need on an airfield.
But what do I know??
I used to fly out of Robin Hood when it was Finningley and could never understand why it was being considered as a civil airport. The runway was almost north/south and where did the prevailing wind come from ? Yes West to East.
Until the coal mining ceased at Rossington, the subsidence it caused used to play havoc with the Simulator and the hangar doors.
Lastly, the gravel rights (as I recall) went up to the airfield boundary. When you dig a big hole it tends to fill with water and attract birds. Just what you need on an airfield.
But what do I know??
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Assuming flights on 1-345-7 and nothing on 25 or 26 Dec, this suggests 12.2 pax per flight in November or about 10.2 pax per flight in December.
(as a side note KLM had a Christmas Day flight this year which they haven't had in recent years)
If we assume a 50 seat CRJ 200 then
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CAA stats indicate Humberside-Copenhagen had 514 pax in November and 408 pax in December
Assuming flights on 1-345-7 and nothing after 20 Dec, this suggests 12.2 pax per flight in November or about 13.6 pax per flight in December.
If we assume a 50 seat CRJ 200 then load factor for November is 24 % and December is 27 %
Of course without yields we have only part of the story
As a comparable, Humberside-Amsterdam saw a 0.4% increase in November to 9,586 pax and a 8% increase in December to 9,112 pax. Of course KLM use bigger aircraft at higher frequency on a long established route.
Norwich-Amsterdam grew 3% in November and 8% in December
While HUY-AMS didn't grow quite as well as NWI-AMS and SAS are getting some passengers, it seems KLM are largely unaffected by the introduction of SAS as a competitor at Humberside
Assuming flights on 1-345-7 and nothing after 20 Dec, this suggests 12.2 pax per flight in November or about 13.6 pax per flight in December.
If we assume a 50 seat CRJ 200 then load factor for November is 24 % and December is 27 %
Of course without yields we have only part of the story
As a comparable, Humberside-Amsterdam saw a 0.4% increase in November to 9,586 pax and a 8% increase in December to 9,112 pax. Of course KLM use bigger aircraft at higher frequency on a long established route.
Norwich-Amsterdam grew 3% in November and 8% in December
While HUY-AMS didn't grow quite as well as NWI-AMS and SAS are getting some passengers, it seems KLM are largely unaffected by the introduction of SAS as a competitor at Humberside
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The loads for Copenhagen, taking into account a few cancellations, appear have been:
October: 28% (56 over 4 flights)
November: 25% (514 over 20 return flights)
December: 30% (408 over 13 return flights)
October: 28% (56 over 4 flights)
November: 25% (514 over 20 return flights)
December: 30% (408 over 13 return flights)
No surprises. With close commercial ties on the Scatsta contract, it was more than likely to happen at some point. And with colour schemes virtually identical, no rebranding is necessary!
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SAS will cease to operate between CPH and HUY 07APR14
1,734 passengers flown between 28 October 2013 and 28 February 2014. Average cabin load for that period: 26%
No need to explain why SAS is closing their flights to CPH.
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SAS booking system has the flights bookable again from end of October 2014, but with a 6 month break. Many of the businesses that SAS were expecting to use the service were related to the Humber Gateway wind farm project, which is due to be start in 2015.