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1. Ryanair to Girona commences 25 March next year and operates 4 x weekly (M, W, F and Su) - mid-evening arrival/departure.
2. WindSheer's and WATABENCH's comments re saturation at terminal are interesting and relevant because I believe they both have work connections with the airport.
I speak from the point of view of a customer and when I last travelled in early September it was at lunchtime on a Wednesday when the airport, although fairly busy, was a comfortable experience.
I take the point about the early mornings when thirty or more departures are scheduled in those first three hours.
I should have had two early starts in the past couple of months or so but these failed to materialise thanks to easyJet's habit of cancelling flights.
From what has been said they may have done me a favour.
Incidentally, a look at the Newcastle thread reveals almost identical comments about overcrowding and lack of check-in facilities as Bristol.
I suppose this is one of the penalties of success.
2. WindSheer's and WATABENCH's comments re saturation at terminal are interesting and relevant because I believe they both have work connections with the airport.
I speak from the point of view of a customer and when I last travelled in early September it was at lunchtime on a Wednesday when the airport, although fairly busy, was a comfortable experience.
I take the point about the early mornings when thirty or more departures are scheduled in those first three hours.
I should have had two early starts in the past couple of months or so but these failed to materialise thanks to easyJet's habit of cancelling flights.
From what has been said they may have done me a favour.
Incidentally, a look at the Newcastle thread reveals almost identical comments about overcrowding and lack of check-in facilities as Bristol.
I suppose this is one of the penalties of success.
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Good news with FR route if you ask me, the competition can only be good for pax in the long run(price wars), lets face it FR are the only company really that can both afford and make a good job of challengeing EZY's dominance at BRS, if only we can find space for more of them 
. I am getting the impression first with the SNN route then extra DUB and now GRO that CWL may of wished they didnt have that fall out with MOL and Co, I remember on their website a year ago they showed CWL as a growth area, this must bode well for BRS now i guess!
. I am getting the impression first with the SNN route then extra DUB and now GRO that CWL may of wished they didnt have that fall out with MOL and Co, I remember on their website a year ago they showed CWL as a growth area, this must bode well for BRS now i guess!
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Well, they almost have already.
Their only route this winter will be the JER which is down for daily except Sat.
This summer they reduced the BHD, BOD and EGC rotations from previous summers. The TLS is also to go this winter.
It seems that the easyJet competition to BFS and the new daily Orange route to TLS has had its effect.
If they don't return next summer it will be a particular shame about the BHD (maybe Air Southwest will look at it, although the easyJet at BFS would come into the equation with them too)) and the BOD, as the latter is one of Bristol's earliest twin cities and the former very convenient for the centre of Belfast.
Flybe seem well set down the M5 at EXT so it probably makes sense to concentrate their southwest efforts from there rather than try to give easyJet a run for its money at its biggest UK base outside London and, of course, Flybe never based aircraft at BRS.
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Unless an Excel insider is prepared to divulge yield etc figures on here (unlikely) one can only assume that Excel is satisfied with its BRS base.
It has had one of its own B 737s and an Air Malta A 320 based at BRS since summer 05 and they continued through last winter and this summer and, as far as I am aware, will continue through this winter and presumably next summer.
Finally, I note from Mayfly that the first-ever scheduled service from BRS to the Canary Islands will commence this coming Tuesday on behalf of BAConnect using an A 320 to TFS.
Well, they almost have already.
Their only route this winter will be the JER which is down for daily except Sat.
This summer they reduced the BHD, BOD and EGC rotations from previous summers. The TLS is also to go this winter.
It seems that the easyJet competition to BFS and the new daily Orange route to TLS has had its effect.
If they don't return next summer it will be a particular shame about the BHD (maybe Air Southwest will look at it, although the easyJet at BFS would come into the equation with them too)) and the BOD, as the latter is one of Bristol's earliest twin cities and the former very convenient for the centre of Belfast.
Flybe seem well set down the M5 at EXT so it probably makes sense to concentrate their southwest efforts from there rather than try to give easyJet a run for its money at its biggest UK base outside London and, of course, Flybe never based aircraft at BRS.
babymax
Unless an Excel insider is prepared to divulge yield etc figures on here (unlikely) one can only assume that Excel is satisfied with its BRS base.
It has had one of its own B 737s and an Air Malta A 320 based at BRS since summer 05 and they continued through last winter and this summer and, as far as I am aware, will continue through this winter and presumably next summer.
Finally, I note from Mayfly that the first-ever scheduled service from BRS to the Canary Islands will commence this coming Tuesday on behalf of BAConnect using an A 320 to TFS.
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BA connect starts its 3xweek flights to TFS from BRS tuesdays,fridays & Saturdays, Also i found out the First Choice long haul routes starts in Feburay apart from Cuba which is starts in May. The day and flight times for the 767 is Dominican Republic Tuesdays and departs BRS 0800 and Florida departs BRS at 1020 on Sunday morinings. Flybe is operating just the JER route til April next year and then the plan after that is they will pull out all together, the JER route i think some days will be operated by the new E195.
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can any one tell me how excel are doing out of brs they obviously didnt do as expected at cwl?
Anyone from the inside of excel care to add...
Or, could an existing airline at Cardiff be poised to replace Excel...
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can any one tell me how excel are doing out of brs they obviously didnt do as expected at cwl?
I fancy the pulling out of Cardiff could be down to a company issue rather than lack of sales. Their a/c this summer was/is operated by Canadians, suggesting a lack of initial commitment!
Anyone from the inside of excel care to add...
Or, could an existing airline at Cardiff be poised to replace Excel...Yesterday 16:51
can any one tell me how excel are doing out of brs they obviously didnt do as expected at cwl?
I fancy the pulling out of Cardiff could be down to a company issue rather than lack of sales. Their a/c this summer was/is operated by Canadians, suggesting a lack of initial commitment!
Anyone from the inside of excel care to add...
Or, could an existing airline at Cardiff be poised to replace Excel...Yesterday 16:51
- FCA to CFU instead of using XL as in this year
- The supposed TOM 'MAJOR MAJOR' expansion
- Various others
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Main Speculation was that the Canadian A/c was going to replace the Air Malta at BRS. It seems now the KM A/c will be running between BRS, CWL (x2 flights) and i think EMA & HUY (correct me if im wrong on this)
Also as already said XL may be struggling with their fleet, but there is the new Ireland base to consider on this, so maybe the a/c are to go over there instead.
MYT had quite a few allocations on XL flights from CWL, does anyone know if this is the case at BRS? Would this also result in yield being less for XL? obviously depending on the demand for their own product.
Too true! KM at BRS, VIK at EMA, Canadian at CWL and GLA, and i believe some Finnair a/c, all operating on behalf of XL, surely they should sort out the UK fleet before expanding elsewhere!
Also as already said XL may be struggling with their fleet, but there is the new Ireland base to consider on this, so maybe the a/c are to go over there instead.
MYT had quite a few allocations on XL flights from CWL, does anyone know if this is the case at BRS? Would this also result in yield being less for XL? obviously depending on the demand for their own product.
As for the lack of commitment theyve just not enough planes in the fleet
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I imagine that XL will utilise their BHX based KM 320 for some of the CWL/EMA/HUY flights, and heard yesterday that MYT will be back year round from next summer, can anyone confirm?, also TCX are fully based this winter with the rumour that they too will be back year round based from next winter 07/08 
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Dont get me wrong because i think XL at BRS is great, but the company as a whole XL/Air Atlanta or whoever they flipping are seems a complete mess, way to many airlines operating under different names it ridiculous, take the BRS-SSH, this is operated by the Air Malta, under XL tickets and check-in screens with an Air Atlanta flight number on the tickets and on the screens??? not so bad for us in the industry but for pax it must be a nightmare, especially checking in down route
.Dont get me wrong because i think XL at BRS is great, but the company as a whole XL/Air Atlanta or whoever they flipping are seems a complete mess, way to many airlines operating under different names it ridiculous, take the BRS-SSH, this is operated by the Air Malta, under XL tickets and check-in screens with an Air Atlanta flight number on the tickets and on the screens??? not so bad for us in the industry but for pax it must be a nightmare, especially checking in down route
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I've not heard any rumours.
It is a strange anomaly given the number of pax that fly from BRS on other routes that it can't get a Toronto service.
It has been unlucky of course. Some of the past carriers that did fly the route went out of business: for example Odyssey Air around sixteen years ago and the most recent, Canada 3000, that had absorbed Royal Air, the previous operator.
Perhaps the loads from BRS were poor and caused these airlines to fail. Only joking because I seem to recall load factors were actually very good. Before anyone mentions it, I know about the importance of yields but I have no access to them of course.
These flights had to operate the outbounds via another airport (GLA in the case of Canada 3000) because of the runway at Lulsgate.
However, the weekly Toronto from EXT operates via another airport (BHX from memory but could be wrong) so that presumably is not a bar.
Incidentally, the last time I looked there were two Toronto flights scheduled from EXT next summer, both at Wednesday lunchtime - one flight to Pearson Airport and one to Hamilton Airport.
It is a strange anomaly given the number of pax that fly from BRS on other routes that it can't get a Toronto service.
It has been unlucky of course. Some of the past carriers that did fly the route went out of business: for example Odyssey Air around sixteen years ago and the most recent, Canada 3000, that had absorbed Royal Air, the previous operator.
Perhaps the loads from BRS were poor and caused these airlines to fail. Only joking because I seem to recall load factors were actually very good. Before anyone mentions it, I know about the importance of yields but I have no access to them of course.
These flights had to operate the outbounds via another airport (GLA in the case of Canada 3000) because of the runway at Lulsgate.
However, the weekly Toronto from EXT operates via another airport (BHX from memory but could be wrong) so that presumably is not a bar.
Incidentally, the last time I looked there were two Toronto flights scheduled from EXT next summer, both at Wednesday lunchtime - one flight to Pearson Airport and one to Hamilton Airport.
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I remember all that you mentioned. Odyssey was a nice airline-with a bone china service. Very posh for the time. Yes the loads were good.
Canadian flights I am sure would do very well
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I remember all that you mentioned. Odyssey was a nice airline-with a bone china service. Very posh for the time. Yes the loads were good.
Canadian flights I am sure would do very well
Lumberjacks of the west unite! Was that the Smiths or the Wurzels?
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Aer Arann
Not sure if it's been mentioned on this thread yet, but Aer Arann's winter timetable is showing an increase to 6 flights per week.
RE431/432 Mon/Wed/Thu/Fri/Sun afternoons
RE431/432 Sunday morning.
BA/GB Airways started the TFS flight today with G-TTOB.
MH.
RE431/432 Mon/Wed/Thu/Fri/Sun afternoons
RE431/432 Sunday morning.
BA/GB Airways started the TFS flight today with G-TTOB.
MH.
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I have some cine film of the first Odyssey International landing at BRS from Toronto on 9 May 1989. It was a Boeing 757. I also filmed it taking off to return to Canada via NCL.
My note with the film says the aircraft was 'booked solid' until the middle of June (it was to be a weekly flight) and, although it routed outbound via NCL because of the runway at BRS, my note continues that most of the bookings were from BRS.
On the apron at the same time as the Odyssey were a Capital Air Short 360, a Hispania B 737/300 and a Dan Air HS 748. As I panned the apron to get this shot a Paramount MD 83 can be seen taking off in the background.
The sad thing is that all these airlines had ceased to operate within the next two years.
Morrihell
Yes, these things have been mentioned on here. Good news to get the Arann back to 6 x weekly to ORK.
A report in the Evening Post today quotes an airport spokesman saying the A 320 operating the first BA scheduled flight to TFS yesterday was full and forward bookings are very strong.
I have some cine film of the first Odyssey International landing at BRS from Toronto on 9 May 1989. It was a Boeing 757. I also filmed it taking off to return to Canada via NCL.
My note with the film says the aircraft was 'booked solid' until the middle of June (it was to be a weekly flight) and, although it routed outbound via NCL because of the runway at BRS, my note continues that most of the bookings were from BRS.
On the apron at the same time as the Odyssey were a Capital Air Short 360, a Hispania B 737/300 and a Dan Air HS 748. As I panned the apron to get this shot a Paramount MD 83 can be seen taking off in the background.
The sad thing is that all these airlines had ceased to operate within the next two years.
Morrihell
Yes, these things have been mentioned on here. Good news to get the Arann back to 6 x weekly to ORK.
A report in the Evening Post today quotes an airport spokesman saying the A 320 operating the first BA scheduled flight to TFS yesterday was full and forward bookings are very strong.
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Flybe routes
With the Winter schedule starting at the end of this month and this winter the only route showing is the Jersey-Bristol-Jersey and the company has released there 2007 schedule and the Jersey flight does not show at all is this because they do not have all the summer routes planned yet or does this mean the route will be droped as well??
This would mean no Flybe connection with Bristol.
If this is the case i can understand in view of Exeter down the road and more flight being generated form there it would seem a good idea if this could be correct.
If flybe pull the Jersey service i would think there are a number of carriers in the wings with similar type aircraft to offer to take the route a the drop of a hat in view of no Cardiff service showing at the moment.
This would mean no Flybe connection with Bristol.
If this is the case i can understand in view of Exeter down the road and more flight being generated form there it would seem a good idea if this could be correct.
If flybe pull the Jersey service i would think there are a number of carriers in the wings with similar type aircraft to offer to take the route a the drop of a hat in view of no Cardiff service showing at the moment.
