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Old 7th Jul 2006, 11:45
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DTV - is CentreFix25 not referring to the fact it went via GLA or PIK ( i cant remember which one but am sure it did at some point.)

Re FlyGlobespan, all i can say is if they throw a bit of marketing at it and have a min of two flights per week as a starting point i think MME has a good chance with this one - especially if we are first in te region , its about time we started going after some serious business routes wise. Although must admit when i heard GSM may start at MME i thought Euro Routes would be first on its list, the likes of Barcelona, Prague and the usual ones you see at many regional airports which MME doesnt have.

As for Dublin, am surprised the Pax has tailed off, is it since the intro of the 738 (whenever that was) or just a general slowdown to Dublin, to me its a no brainer type route in that it will always be popular with less effort needed to make it work?.
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Originally Posted by Jet_stream
MME - EWR with GSM for summer 2007 is an insider rumour !!
Jet stream , from your postings it would appear to be that you are the source of this totally unsubstantiated rumour.
Mischief making or what?, I note you are from the GLA area, do you actually work for Globespan ? If you do, then on what basis are you apparantly going off at a tangent from what was allegedly quoted by your boss Dalrymple, in the June edition of 'Airliner World' that GSM were looking at longhaul expansion at EDI, GLA, NCL & CWL amongst others ?
Conversely did you just happen to speak with or have a friend of a friend who is a taxi driver who just happened to have recently given a lift to the GSM route planners ?
Admitted 'others' now appears to have meant LPL, but then does messages eminating from the chairman that are converse to a recently stated policy some month or so earlier show indications that really he also hasn't got a clue what is going on !!.........
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 12:28
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I find it fairly unlikely that NCL would be involved now, due to them starting the MME-TFS, but then I suppose they do run EDI + GLA together. And the boss is probably just spouting crap just to keep the competitors guessing at where they really will go next, who expected MAN-CPT after all??

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Old 7th Jul 2006, 12:48
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Hi there from sunny teesside!!.....actually a bit cloudy today!
So...MME-EWR,..honestly fellas,as much as i luv my local airport,i just cant see this happening,...we all know deep down that if a regional route started to new york it would be from the "toon".
As for dublin,...can only summise that the novelty has wore off,..people looking for diffrent cities to visit for a weekend away or stag/hen parties.
Although baby are doing great,i am looking for more euro expansion at MME,..
barcelona,rome,madrid,germany,scandanavia....variety is the spice of life!!!
Also fellas,is it just me or are 757s not so common any more at mme,..all i seem to notice is 737/320 flying over my house?
Up the boro
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 12:55
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Yes just 1 regular 752 flight a week now, on a Monday afternoon Otherwise the only other way would be if TNT somehow provided us with a 752F, which I can never see happening
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 13:46
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Originally Posted by holgate
Hi there from sunny teesside!!.....actually a bit cloudy today!
I'm going to be working that one out for the rest of the day!

Look folks, we need to come back to reality here, New York is not going to happen, at least not in the next decade, so let's focus on what could happen.
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 14:34
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DTV - Trouble is when you get something as good as a MME-EWR suggestion you have to run with it a bit, i saw in the Flyglobespan thread a couple of weeks ago everyone completely dismissing anything from them at MME even though TFS was mentioned on more than one occasion and there it is in all its glory!

Still you are right, but i fear its more of Flyglobespan as they seem to be the only one biting the MME bait, would be good to see them offer a few more euro routes. I cant think of anyone else off hand that might come on board with the exception of BMIBaby completing its Winter Schedule as i think there is still something yet to be confirmed/announced, and the "rumours" doing or that were doing the rounds for MME-SOU (Eastern or BMI Regional) and MME-BRU (Whoever - SN wouldnt would they!?!)
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 15:35
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Originally Posted by mmeteesside
I find it fairly unlikely that NCL would be involved now, ......... And the boss is probably just spouting crap just to keep the competitors guessing at where they really will go next, mmeteesside
The most sense I've read all day !
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DTV----New York

This is quite possible due to the "Peel" connection. Peel are not spending all that money at DTV for nothing. I would expect a few new route announcements from DTV very soon including some from BMI baby who have not fully utilized there a/c during the winter. Dont think they have formally announced Geneva yet. I suspect the airport is waiting for some further developments ( Globespan/Ryanair?) and will announce them all in one go in a blaze of publicity
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Skyman....not mischief making at all....came from middle management. I was just as surprised to hear it too. But we'll have to wait and see if it comes to fruition!! Then all apologies will be accepted.
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Old 8th Jul 2006, 18:32
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Originally Posted by Jet_stream
Skyman....not mischief making at all....came from middle management.
And that is why they are presumably not 'senior' management........
Been thinking, maybe this is should be looked at in a different way.
Pehaps what was being considered, at least initially was to simply link into the LPL - EWR service. This could be done with or without a GSM based 73x. It would support the LPL service in contributing to pax no's, trip MME - LPL in right direction, low costs, particularly as both 'Peel Airports' . The fact that the loads on the MME - LPL were not high, would not necessarily be a problem as the major objective is to target 100% LF's on the LPL - EWR segment.
Given thought it actually does make some sense, particularly if you were to consider where GSM were to source the necessary additional 752's.
Lets face it this concept wouldn't be a problem to the marketing men, & may be why MME was ever considered by middle management.

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Skyman771, if anything about EWR is true, yes I think the link idea is probably more likely, or the 757 to do MME-LPL-EWR. I don't know and we will just have to wait and see.

Regarding Dublin, I think the flight times on a weekend are not the best, Saturday evening and Sunday morning, no good for a weekend in Dublin really, so this is why the pax numbers might be not as much as they should be.

On another note, bmibaby is to stop flying to Knock from August, due to low passenger numbers.
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Old 10th Jul 2006, 12:27
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MME has been losing passengers to NCL ever since FR starting flying from there. When I worked in Dublin I had meetings with Tees Valley Tourist board and they were very concerned about losing the flight altogether. And with EI starting a conveniently timed service this autumn from NCL it may add to the problem. At the moment if you want to travel to NCL you have to travel either very early or very late. Not for much longer.
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Old 12th Jul 2006, 09:10
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Durham Tees Valley - Brussels

Just received an e-mail from the airport, Eastern Airways has announced Durham Tees Valley - Brussels! Don't know which aircraft types will be used or what the frequencies are because I was too desperate to get on here and let you all know.

It seems the rumour I accidently started months ago just became reality!
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Old 12th Jul 2006, 09:15
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A small section of the e-mail I received:

The full service UK regional airline, will offer day return journeys with two flights each weekday from 2 October 2006 to suit business travellers from Durham and the Tees Valley heading for the European Union capital.

Locally based pilots and cabin crew will operate a 29 seat Jetstream 41 aircraft on the Belgian route and this is the second aircraft that the airline will base at Durham Tees Valley Airport.
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Old 12th Jul 2006, 10:17
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Its a J41 29 seater based aircraft ( would have thought a Sunday service would be good also, maybe in time)

It seems the first of the rumours doing the rounds have come true, with hopefully more to come soon

Let the drumrolls begin...................
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Old 12th Jul 2006, 11:18
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This also proves that the disasterous Bristol route did not nock Eastern's confidence in MME, as was previously thought.
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Old 12th Jul 2006, 11:53
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Things might be on the up at last. Extract from this morning's Northern Echo (edited version) :-

''Airline planning new routes''

LOW-COST airline Ryanair aims to increase passenger numbers by 20 per cent a year - and is considering new routes from its North-East airports, it emerged last night.
Karl Hogstadius, Ryanair deputy sales and marketing manager, visited Durham Tees Valley Airport yesterday to promote the Dublin route, handing out flights for 1p each.
The first flight from Durham Tees Valley to Dublin was launched in November 1997, and since then Ryanair has carried more than 700,000 passengers on the route.
This year it expects to carry between 80,000 and 100,000 passengers to and from the Irish city.
Mr Hogstadius said yesterday that regional airports, such as Tees Valley and Newcastle, and the shorter routes to places such as Dublin and Cork, were central to the future of Ryanair.
"We like the shorter flights, maybe 40 minutes or an hour, more than the three-hour flights because you can fit more of them in, and keep the prices lower," he said.
"We are currently in negotiations with more than 50 airports and destinations across Europe, and we will see where those negotiations take us, but we will certainly be looking at more routes from Tees Valley."

Any offers / suggestions as to where? Might BMibaby be under threat on the Cork route ?
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Well for me i think there are a number of options

They could try Knock, Bmibaby have dropped this but with cheaper fares it might up the pax for Ryanair.
They should also revisit the Rome route as i had heard it wasnt doing too badly, maybe they just need to look at flight times and frequency
Looking at their network you would have thought other contenders to be Girona, Cork, Shannon, Stansted (if they can get round this BMI only flying to london agreement), Berlin or Frankfurt
Those would be my starter for 10 and who knows, are they hinting at having a small sort of satellite base from MME in their article perhaps (maybe am pushing it a bit there )
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Old 13th Jul 2006, 11:59
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Does anyone know what this was doing at MME in 1998:
http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=84935
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