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Would the MaxJet 767-200ERs offer any better reliability? They are almost as old as the UKIA planes, but they would cut out the tech stop at SHJ.
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Whether the business is sustainable in the long term is one issue, but again - the aircraft, loads, reliability, performance, fares, are NOT the reason why UKIA is on the ground at the moment.
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So - tell us East Mids - WHY is it?
Am I right in surmising that the man at the top has thrown his toys (management team) out the pram again - so has no postholders in place to satisfy the CAA?
Am I right in surmising that the man at the top has thrown his toys (management team) out the pram again - so has no postholders in place to satisfy the CAA?
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Whatever aircraft UKIA may or may not have it's unlikely to be able to turn a profit unless it's utilised properly, which doesn't appear to be the case, it seems doubtful that 2 flights a week could generate enough income to make the operation viable, certainly with their load factors.
I imagine that UKIA had plans for more routes which would possibly have helped, maybe they should have been a little more sorted when they first started with their route network and ticketing arrangements, which appeared to be very poor initially.
I imagine that UKIA had plans for more routes which would possibly have helped, maybe they should have been a little more sorted when they first started with their route network and ticketing arrangements, which appeared to be very poor initially.
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Pay day tommorrow i'm told (so 3rd Jan) . Mind you as someone who got a payslip once but no money in the bank, fingers crossed. The prob is because this is so public suppliers will soon get the jitters, ask for cash or payment on delivery and the whole saga will drag them down. Good luck is all I can say.....
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They have already racked up one CCJ against them, came through on our credit check system today.
May only have been for about 7k but how much longer before the figures are bigger.
May only have been for about 7k but how much longer before the figures are bigger.
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Well thankfully the crew have all been paid now it seems, but there are one or two questions remaining.
One of these is to do with finances, in other words, have they got the money behind them to restart their scheduled flights?
And another question is, why was the Ops Director suspended? Rumours abound of incompetence and negligence !!!
One of these is to do with finances, in other words, have they got the money behind them to restart their scheduled flights?
And another question is, why was the Ops Director suspended? Rumours abound of incompetence and negligence !!!
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Wasn't the DFO a very well respected and extremely experienced person, who has set up various other airlines? I'm sure there will be an explanation, privvy only to those involved. The reason they have suspended ops may well be to do with a, not having a named person for the AOC and b, quite possibly to adjust business model abeilt its a funny way of carrying out a re-organisation. Along with the DFO was the head of CC not also suspended? Does an airline have to have a CC manager in place in order to fulfill an AOC?
I am still of the opinion that UKIA could quite possibly be successful given the right business model, marketing, sales and staff. The UK has a large population of ethnic citizens, who do not live solely in the London area, who equally require a reliable, cost effective way of visiting family etc. Pakistan is just one destination viable with such an airline - if UKIA research their market base thoroughly then with 2/3 flights per week to each destination it is entirely possible that the airline could be a small, niche yet successful carrier.
Not keen on the colour scheme though!
I am still of the opinion that UKIA could quite possibly be successful given the right business model, marketing, sales and staff. The UK has a large population of ethnic citizens, who do not live solely in the London area, who equally require a reliable, cost effective way of visiting family etc. Pakistan is just one destination viable with such an airline - if UKIA research their market base thoroughly then with 2/3 flights per week to each destination it is entirely possible that the airline could be a small, niche yet successful carrier.
Not keen on the colour scheme though!
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Dec Pay
Just got off the phone to a friend who works for UKIA, he and several other pilots have not been paid for December. Also a mumber of CC (numbers unknown) are still waiting payment. Chief Training Captain is rumoured to have resigned. All a bit of a mess
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Never work with Children or Animals?
Yes what a mess.
Quality Mgr sacked, DFO suspended with Senior Trolly Dolly suspended too and now the Chief Trg Capt has walked out!
He was overheard to say that "just like in the film industry, you should never work with children or animals!" Ha! Ha! Ha!
Whatever next?
Quality Mgr sacked, DFO suspended with Senior Trolly Dolly suspended too and now the Chief Trg Capt has walked out!
He was overheard to say that "just like in the film industry, you should never work with children or animals!" Ha! Ha! Ha!
Whatever next?
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Maybe I spoke too soon, it seems like the pilots have not been paid yet. Well it is only the 7th January so plenty of time yet, but does this mean the company is not planning to fly again? If it does, then why did they Pay the cabin crew last week.
Does anyone know when the Co is actually intending to pay all its people? Are there any other bills not been paid (on top of the £7K CCJ that we have heard about). There should surely be a formal anouncement from the managers to the public about all this state of affairs.
Does anyone know when the Co is actually intending to pay all its people? Are there any other bills not been paid (on top of the £7K CCJ that we have heard about). There should surely be a formal anouncement from the managers to the public about all this state of affairs.
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"Well it is only the 7th January so plenty of time yet"
Sans Frontiers - wanna tell these guys Mortgage lenders that?
UKIA are not too hot on many things - and that includes paying folks on time. I believe that it is by design though - think how much extra interest they will be making if they hold onto their £'s just for a few days extra each month - sponging off the backs of their crews...................
Sans Frontiers - wanna tell these guys Mortgage lenders that?
UKIA are not too hot on many things - and that includes paying folks on time. I believe that it is by design though - think how much extra interest they will be making if they hold onto their £'s just for a few days extra each month - sponging off the backs of their crews...................
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Sorry Richterscale, it was meant as a sarcastic comment - not easy to do on emails etc. I shuld've used one of these eh? 
Anyways I agree with you, it is outrageous that a company could even consider witholding salary from the hard working employees at any time let alone at Christmas. But then they do seem to have previous form in this area do'nt they?
Everyone has a mortgage and bills to pay and at this rate they are not gonna have any peeps left by the end of Jan so how are they ever gonna get airbourne again?
Anyways I agree with you, it is outrageous that a company could even consider witholding salary from the hard working employees at any time let alone at Christmas. But then they do seem to have previous form in this area do'nt they?Everyone has a mortgage and bills to pay and at this rate they are not gonna have any peeps left by the end of Jan so how are they ever gonna get airbourne again?
