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Old 21st Sep 2007, 12:58
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ISB Slots

UKIA has been issued 6 slots to Islambad today.
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Old 21st Sep 2007, 13:14
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Is that per week or a total?

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Are They Having A Cabin Refit Before Flights Commence?
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Old 21st Sep 2007, 15:44
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No major cabin refit is being carried out.
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Old 21st Sep 2007, 16:30
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Slots to Islamabad

Am I correct in thinking there is still a bilateral agreement between UK and Pakistan that effectively restricts capacity on routes between the countries?

If so, I would imagine that PIA would be doing their level best to ensure there isn't too much competition to their services to and from Manchester and Birmingham.

Anyway - slots don't mean traffic rights, and frankly, I would be surprised if ISB was actually a slot restricted airport.
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Old 21st Sep 2007, 16:52
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I agree, traffic rights is the big hurdle, if UK get these then they have my respect and best wishes.
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Traffic Rights

Will these be so much of a problem now, as their appears a miss-match in that there are 2 Pakistani airlines - PIA & AirBlue operating to UK, but only one UK Airline - BA? Most ASA's are based on reciprocity - an equal number of airlines from each side - so, unless another carrier has the rights (didn't European Aviation get the rights when they were supposed to be operating a B747 for Global Spirit), it should be straightforward to add UKIA? Especially as EMA is a regional airport which fall outside restrictions, which i believe are aimed at LON airports.
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Old 22nd Sep 2007, 10:51
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Maybe - but Pakistan is not exactly a liberal democracy, and will surely do it's level best to hinder any competition to PIA in the regions.

We'll have to wait and see.

But in any event UKIA seem to have spent a lot of cash thus far, and earned little, if no money in return. Given the more difficult global financial situation that exists now, I would have though their bankers would be looking for some pretty concrete assurances that their loans (and I feel sure banks will have loaned at least some cash) are safe.
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Old 23rd Sep 2007, 15:44
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BMI interested in flying to Lahore and Virgin too keen on serving Pakistan according to Pakistani officials, but PIA plan to keep them out with sinister plans, BA too may resume Karachi.
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Old 24th Sep 2007, 11:22
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The market for Karachi is pretty poor compared to Islamabad and Lahore. If BA go back it would be to ISB more than likely, not KHI.
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Old 24th Sep 2007, 22:01
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What's so appealing about ISB??
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Old 24th Sep 2007, 23:26
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The majority of Pakistanis in the UK come from either Kashmir ( ISB ) or the Punjab ( Lahore). There aren't so many from Sindh region (KHI).
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Somebody tells me that Astraeus has traffic rights to Pakistan
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Old 28th Sep 2007, 15:26
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UK International Airlines publishes its Flight Schedule.


UK International Airlines has published its flight Schedule. Flights start from East Midlands Airport Derby/Nottingham on Friday 19th October, 2007 for Sharjah (UAE) and Islamabad (Pakistan).

Initially there will be 2 weekly round trips starting on Tuesdays and Fridays. From 7th December 2007 these will increase to 3 weekly trips, Inshallah.

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Old 28th Sep 2007, 16:09
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Schedule

All very nice but have they got traffic rights yet?
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Old 28th Sep 2007, 16:36
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UKIA "Schedule"

In my book, a schedule suggest days of operation, arrival and departure times, and flight numbers.

I'm struggling to find any of these fairly vital components on their website - or am I just blind?

And, how exactly are they going to make any sort of money with such short lead times - after all it's just three weeks until the first scheduled flight is supposed to leave EMA?

I'm sorry, but apart from actually having an aircraft in their colours, at their base airport, I can some fairly striking similarities with a certain FlyBlu, and subsequently FlyWho at an airport 40 miles from EMA.
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Old 29th Sep 2007, 12:29
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As UKIA are advertising G CECU as being available for wetlease, perhaps they aren't too confident of the October 19th start....?
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Old 29th Sep 2007, 13:55
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August 2007 pax stats:

LHR-ISB: 18,120 – reduction of 9% over August 2006
LHR-KHI: 7037 – increase of 18% over August 2006
LHR-LHE: 8095 – decrease of 15% over August 2006

BHX-ISB: 8,948 – increase of 26% over August 2006

MAN-ISB: 21,336 – increase of 30% over August 2006
MAN-KHI: 1,991 – decrease of 45% over August 2006
MAN-LHE: 5,998 – increase of 99% over August 2006

Total for LHR/BHX/MAN-ISB: 48,404
Total for LHR/MAN-KHI: 9,028
Total for LHR/MAN-LHE: 14,093
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Old 29th Sep 2007, 13:59
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So far, thereis no information on the EMA website about UKIA, I cant see them doing the first flight so early! And where are you meant to book tickets?
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It would appear that tickets can only be booked through UKIA's appointed travel agents, of which there are only four in the UK, two in Pakistan, and one in Nepal. I understand from previous posts that they have been advertising mainly among their target market - the Asian community - lets hope that in the next three weeks they can fill enough seats to make it worthwhile. Although at the moment I agree it doesn't look promising, no doubt that is the reason they are available for wet lease.

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