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BA Crew at LGW havent had any memo or crewlink messages about this. Its GB crew that have received the memo , so any GB crew out their and are online can you clairify ?
But interesting about the Handling of GB !
But interesting about the Handling of GB !
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Indeed....I believe it can only make things better for us as well, all summer we have had flights coming in late at night at the same time of some GB ones and baggage delays were just unbearable.
Coming back from NAP in september, we landed at 1245am and our bags arrived at 2am....when I asked for clarifications our bosses told me that the few baggage handlers available had 4 GB flights and the late MAD and PSA to do as well so 1hr15min delay wasn't that bad after all!!
Coming back from NAP in september, we landed at 1245am and our bags arrived at 2am....when I asked for clarifications our bosses told me that the few baggage handlers available had 4 GB flights and the late MAD and PSA to do as well so 1hr15min delay wasn't that bad after all!!
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When I got back from ATL yesterday, the BA baggage handlers were on a go slow due to GB changing the contract.
Knowing BA, it won't mean more loaders, they will use this as an excuse to lay some of them off perhaps? Less flights to handle equals less employees needed?
Knowing BA, it won't mean more loaders, they will use this as an excuse to lay some of them off perhaps? Less flights to handle equals less employees needed?
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Some of GB's routes are operated using BA route licences that go back to BEA times. I don't see BA giving those up for one moment. GB clearly thinks it can go it alone with it's remaining route portfolio and the core holiday company business.
However, slots are a different thing.....do GB operate everything on their own slots or do they utilise any BA slots?
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GB will continue as it has done in the past despite BA trying to de-rail it, in fact, GB may have to do more work for WW around xmas due to the impending strike action from BA staff re pensions....
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This might all be rather good for GB. The BA product has been useless on so many routes, after all they have had to withdraw from Seville, Murcia, Valencia Jerez and worst of all from MAN/AGP where they were thrashed by Jet 2. The delays are a real issue with customers and hopefully they will get better service from handling agents who care about on time service. But I suspect that they might have to find another business partner in order to get some real strength in the market. What is certain is that freed from BA their costs will tumble and their revenues will increase. These threads have speculated in the past about the bearded one being interested. Maybe easyJet will be tempted. Who knows?
flyer 55,
No-one in GB has received a memo about the franchise ending.
There was a memo today recognising speculation on many rumours and stories, but that's it.
However, this is the right forum for a rumour i guess??!!
Didn't WW actually tell a BA forum recently that there would be no franchises next year?
BPM
No-one in GB has received a memo about the franchise ending.
There was a memo today recognising speculation on many rumours and stories, but that's it.
However, this is the right forum for a rumour i guess??!!
Didn't WW actually tell a BA forum recently that there would be no franchises next year?
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Assuming that the worst case conspiracy theorists could be right, and I hope they aren't, are BA able to move all og Gatwick long haul to Heathrow.
I thought some US routes HAD to fly from Gatwick and this was the reason that ahigh yield oil route like Houston had to operate from here.
The routes involved are southern US and Carribbean :
Atlanta, GA
Dallas, TX
Houston, TX
Orlando, Fl
Tampa, Fl
Bermuda, Barbados, Antigua, St Lucia, Grenada, Tobago and Kington.
Also thought this was why American had to fly their Dallas services from Gatwick when it would make sense to consolidate at all London ops at Heathrow.
I thought some US routes HAD to fly from Gatwick and this was the reason that ahigh yield oil route like Houston had to operate from here.
The routes involved are southern US and Carribbean :
Atlanta, GA
Dallas, TX
Houston, TX
Orlando, Fl
Tampa, Fl
Bermuda, Barbados, Antigua, St Lucia, Grenada, Tobago and Kington.
Also thought this was why American had to fly their Dallas services from Gatwick when it would make sense to consolidate at all London ops at Heathrow.
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Didn't WW actually tell a BA forum recently that there would be no franchises next year?
What is certain is that freed from BA their costs will tumble and their revenues will increase
Assuming that the worst case conspiracy theorists could be right, and I hope they aren't, are BA able to move all og Gatwick long haul to Heathrow.
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'GB have no "back office" ticketing/reservations dept to speak of, so its a fairly large short term expenditure'
Going to new a new reservations system would have no large short term expenditure. The main GDS suppliers only charge per booking, and that covers the costs of putting the system in. In fact they would be able to contract a lower booking cost than they get from currently from BA, so there will be a fairly large short, medium and long-term reduction in cost. It would also allow them to begin their own on-line bookings which have an even lower cost still.
As for route licences, they would not have any issues at all getting the right permissions for any of the their current destinations.
BA have been making good money out of GB in every area for years - which has been mutually good for both companies. The new MD isa former head of BA sales and BA cargo - I feel he knows what he is doing when he is moving things away from BA.
Going to new a new reservations system would have no large short term expenditure. The main GDS suppliers only charge per booking, and that covers the costs of putting the system in. In fact they would be able to contract a lower booking cost than they get from currently from BA, so there will be a fairly large short, medium and long-term reduction in cost. It would also allow them to begin their own on-line bookings which have an even lower cost still.
As for route licences, they would not have any issues at all getting the right permissions for any of the their current destinations.
BA have been making good money out of GB in every area for years - which has been mutually good for both companies. The new MD isa former head of BA sales and BA cargo - I feel he knows what he is doing when he is moving things away from BA.
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GB-BMED-New LCY Operation
Any truth in the rumour going round that either GB or BMED will pick up the EDI-LCY operation (This new outfit being planned) and that being the case, they will also do the EDI-LHR/LGW routes during the quiet spells of the day ie Use the AVRO to releive pressure on the Airbus/B757/B737 fleets. Afterall, EDI is expecting 10 Avros to be based there once all the handovers and changes take place at the end of March 07...
Failing that... Ive heard that whatever this new subsidiary is called, they may be asked to use the AVRO to LHR/LGW during the quiet spells of the day...
Failing that... Ive heard that whatever this new subsidiary is called, they may be asked to use the AVRO to LHR/LGW during the quiet spells of the day...
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Tristar cant see that happening , but you never know !
Hotel mode interesting you mention about the 777 / 330 and the expansion due shortly do you have any other inside info re this ? Can PM me if you like ?
Hotel mode interesting you mention about the 777 / 330 and the expansion due shortly do you have any other inside info re this ? Can PM me if you like ?
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The Gatwick We Loved
Sorry if this has been posted before, but I have just asked Google Earth for a look at Gatwick.
Now I know that some of their images are not quite up-to-date, but...............................
MM
Now I know that some of their images are not quite up-to-date, but...............................
MM
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Gatwick - Reduced Distances Operation
To enable a major reconstruction of Taxiway A, Runway 08R/26L will be operating with reduced distances and a temporary threshold for 26L on Sunday-Thursday nights from 21 Jan to 29 March. Check out UKAIP Supplements S1&S2/2007 for the details.
Etihad pulling out at the end of the winter season. They have bought a Heathrow slot from United and are moving the daily LGW-Abu Dhabi service up the road.
Not good for LGW, but the pax loads on Etihad were not particularly strong, so I guess it depends who takes up the slots as to whether it works out better for the airport in the long term.
Not good for LGW, but the pax loads on Etihad were not particularly strong, so I guess it depends who takes up the slots as to whether it works out better for the airport in the long term.
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Gatwick RW closed last night? 19/2/07
Anyone know why Gatwicks RW was closed for a "period of time" last night? Re-opened around 21.15, with all flights getting radar vectors to visual as no ILS.
Cheers
Jamie
Cheers
Jamie
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Night work at Gatwick
Jamie,
Sure thing, we're carrying out major works to completely reconstruct the holding area at Alpha. Some of the plant will obstruct the protected approach surfaces for the main runway so we've created a temporary threshold and aiming point (additional PAPI units and lighting) further down the runway. When this is in use, we can't use the ILS because it would direct the aircraft to the old aiming point. It would be too big a job for this temporary set-up to create another ILS installation. The downside is that the weather is more restrictive for this operation, no CAT III - just visual approaches from RADAR vectors, as you say.
We need to have a gap in the traffic when we're changing all the lighting over, so that we can physically inspect to make sure they're showing the correct lights and all the barriers are in place protecting the work site.
Go to the AIS website (you'll need to log in) and look for a supplement to the AIP S1/2007, which explains everything in great detail. Also look at NOTAM A0432/07 for further details of the lighting changes.
In addition to reconstructing, we're taking the opportunity to widen the access to the runway, to accommodate the A380, future-proofing the world's busiest single-runway. 34 million pax this year, aiming for 40 million by 2010. What's the next-busiest single runway???
Cheers,
The Odd One
Sure thing, we're carrying out major works to completely reconstruct the holding area at Alpha. Some of the plant will obstruct the protected approach surfaces for the main runway so we've created a temporary threshold and aiming point (additional PAPI units and lighting) further down the runway. When this is in use, we can't use the ILS because it would direct the aircraft to the old aiming point. It would be too big a job for this temporary set-up to create another ILS installation. The downside is that the weather is more restrictive for this operation, no CAT III - just visual approaches from RADAR vectors, as you say.
We need to have a gap in the traffic when we're changing all the lighting over, so that we can physically inspect to make sure they're showing the correct lights and all the barriers are in place protecting the work site.
Go to the AIS website (you'll need to log in) and look for a supplement to the AIP S1/2007, which explains everything in great detail. Also look at NOTAM A0432/07 for further details of the lighting changes.
In addition to reconstructing, we're taking the opportunity to widen the access to the runway, to accommodate the A380, future-proofing the world's busiest single-runway. 34 million pax this year, aiming for 40 million by 2010. What's the next-busiest single runway???
Cheers,
The Odd One
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