Airlines, Airports & Routes Topics about airports, routes and airline business.

GATWICK

Old 26th Mar 2016, 07:38
  #3101 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hemel Hempstead
Posts: 978
With LAS, I think it was a case that they were getting a good feed out of LHR, and with the LGW it was just too much capacity - so LHR stayed.

You're quite right in saying there are still options out of LGW for BA if they want to explore them. Unlinking AUH & MCT, and moving MCT to LGW could be an interesting option, along with a much talked about SEZ (definitely 2x week would work on that).

Along with Norwegian, you also have Thomson - they are now flying to Phuket, Colombo, Mauritius - along with current BA routes like Orlando, Cancun & Punta Cana. With once a week rotations it would be easier for them to fill the aircraft though.
toledoashley is offline  
Old 26th Mar 2016, 13:03
  #3102 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 341
I definitely think that there is more growth for BA at Gatwick, both in short-haul and long-haul. I think that for the long-haul, BA could add routes like Miami & Bangkok to serve the O&D market, but also to add extra capacity on these routes, with LHR not allowing this. For the short-haul side, I think there short-haul operation is very good now at LGW and they could be offering routes like Berlin (Tegel), Gran Canaria, Palma de Mallorca, Copenhagen, Paris and many others in the future. Any other suggestions?
AvGeek1 is offline  
Old 26th Mar 2016, 14:30
  #3103 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hemel Hempstead
Posts: 978
The mantra clearly is 'Premium Leisure', although LHR has taken a few potential routes away (Palermo, Chania, Menorca & Gran Canaria). Maybe a return to Varna or Pula might be an interesting addition (or Tivat which EZY is starting this year). Given that Spain features highly on the agenda maybe even Almeria or Jerez.
toledoashley is offline  
Old 26th Mar 2016, 16:53
  #3104 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 341
I was slightly confused as to why BA decided to launch all of those routes from LHR, as I find it is a waste of slots and all of these routes can operate successfully out of Gatwick, along with their array of leisure routes.

A certain trend of BA lately is to launch currently served routes from LHR at Gatwick, like Vienna and New York for example. This is why I was thinking routes like Paris, Berlin & Miami could be great for Gatwick. I was also thinking that BA could change their Milan operation so that flights to Milan Linate (for business & transfers) operate from LHR and flights to Milan Malpensa operate from LGW (for O&D traffic).

Other routes from BA that they could potentially operate in the future:

Montego Bay?
Phuket?
Dubai? (replace one of the LHR rotations with an LGW)
Havana?
San Francisco?
AvGeek1 is offline  
Old 26th Mar 2016, 17:22
  #3105 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: London
Posts: 154
I was slightly confused as to why BA decided to launch all of those routes from LHR, as I find it is a waste of slots and all of these routes can operate successfully out of Gatwick, along with their array of leisure routes.
The LHR summer seasonal routes seem to work extremely well for BA. Premium loads are good and they are a better use of off peak departure and arrival slots than an extra off-peak rotation to FRA etc.

Also, one benefit of leisure routes over business routes is they book out much further in advance and there's much clearer visibility as to their performance.
nguba is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2016, 01:09
  #3106 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: London
Age: 39
Posts: 533
It's not a waste of slots if you were previously forced to fly half empty at weekends just to hang onto slots.
Avgeek1 it's worth googling the previous BA hub at LGW and why it was closed. MBJ has been operated twice in recent years and keeps getting dropped, KIN remains the port of choice.
Why *would* you replace LHR-DXB with a LGW operation, what would be the business case? BA are struggling on LHR-BKK, Phuket is very price sensitive with almost no business traffic. The LIN/MXP split isn't as clear cut as you make out, they're both LHR routes in the same way JFK/EWR are both served. That's not to say BA couldn't go back to Milan yet again from Gatters
Skipness One Foxtrot is online now  
Old 27th Mar 2016, 14:48
  #3107 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: STANSTED & MANCHESTER
Posts: 1,771
Westjet

Just a quick Question, what terminal will Westjet be using at Gatwick ?
I have checked the Gatwick website but no mention of Westjet in the drop down section for Airlines, destinations and terminals.
daz211 is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2016, 14:53
  #3108 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Blighty
Posts: 3,973
Gatwick terminal for Westjet

Daz - this might help

Let me google that for you
davidjohnson6 is online now  
Old 27th Mar 2016, 14:58
  #3109 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: STANSTED & MANCHESTER
Posts: 1,771
Lol ... Cheers davidjohnson6
I did try google at first but after going to Gatwicks website and no mention I decided to ask here 😜.
daz211 is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2016, 17:50
  #3110 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Southampton
Posts: 1
Daz

You could have checked the LGW Wiki page as well, it's been noted that Westjet will be using the North Terminal for several months now, I always find it easier to search these type of things myself rather than rely on others for a delayed answer.
canberra97 is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2016, 00:22
  #3111 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Surrey
Age: 32
Posts: 154
Diverts galore tonight
strawberry Ribena is online now  
Old 28th Mar 2016, 00:24
  #3112 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Deep South
Posts: 154
Must be rough over gatwick tonight. Three overshoots -EZY, THOMSON and Norwegian
macuser is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2016, 00:38
  #3113 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Deep South
Posts: 154
EZY from CHQ has just got in, others on the approach.
macuser is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2016, 00:48
  #3114 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Deep South
Posts: 154
Bit of a lottery, diversions tonEMA, other EZY now landing, BA on approach...
macuser is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2016, 00:54
  #3115 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Deep South
Posts: 154
BA and next EZY both overshot, another EZY next.

Last edited by macuser; 28th Mar 2016 at 00:55. Reason: Typo
macuser is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2016, 00:57
  #3116 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Deep South
Posts: 154
EZY overshot
macuser is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2016, 01:32
  #3117 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Deep South
Posts: 154
EZY TLS just got in to LGW
macuser is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2016, 06:03
  #3118 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 201
Three EZY Flights diverted from Gatwick to Liverpool in the early hours,(2 A320s, from Dalaman and Larnaca, and an A319 from Malaga.

Some BA Flights diverted to Birmingham and Manchester and Norwegian diverted to East Midlands.
Ametyst1 is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2016, 23:34
  #3119 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: London, UK & Europe
Posts: 2
Aeroflot have slots for 3 weekly service to Moscow from July, had applied for 2 daily.

Wonder if it will be announced?
j636 is offline  
Old 29th Mar 2016, 00:46
  #3120 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Regrettably far from 50N
Posts: 872
Noting from the ACL report that having applied for 2x daily they have been given 3x weekly, and that a high proportion of the allocation is more than an hour from their requested slot times, the question is probably of whether or not they even have an aircraft spare. We will see.
Aero Mad is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.