GATWICK

[wallp]

So with BA's 777 fleet & a few others, those stands are going to be fully utilised at peak times.

Which other airlines are down to use South Terminal alongside BA?

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

BA will have no more than 6-7 B777s on stand at once, they only have 10 based. VS are of course moving North to join Emirates, Garuda are moving to LHR, Caribbean are leaving altogether. So the only other heavies will be Thomas Cook A330s, Air Transat A310/A330s and Air Canada rouge B763s. Is that about right?

[cornishsimon]

is that 10 772s in 2015/16 and 11 for 16/17
or 9 for 14/15 and 10 for 15/16 ?




cs

[adfly]

Don't forget Norwegian with ~3 787's based on their current intentions for next summer. BA should have 11 772's based next summer, although I doubt more than 7/8 will be on the ground at once during any normal day.

[Fairdealfrank]

Gatwick could not make an economic case for a second runway if it was competing against a 3-runway Heathrow.

That is a more significant comment than many realise, obviously.

[canberra97]

Plus Westjet Boeing 767's at South Terminal for summer 2016 with at least three on the ground during the mornings.

[Wycombe]

Plus a Thomson Dreamliner or 2 one would have thought?

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Aren't Thomson staying North? BA remote park B777s if they're not turning and going. Also Westjet are more likely operating one in one out even if they do have three over a morning as you're paying three handlings teams otherwise.

Are BA really basing 11 B777s at LGW since G-VIIO was involved in the #1 engine explosion at LAS? I would be very surprised if that returns to service.

Also Pier 1, when does it open?

[LadyL2013]

Thomson has a fairly sizeable operation there now. At peak times they have I think 3 787's, 2 or 3 757's and several 737's. Will there be room for them at the North?

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

At peak times they have I think 3 787's, 2 or 3 757's and several 737's.

There will be room for everyone overnight and in the first wave, it gets complicated when aircraft are delayed in summer and pitch up to find someone else on their gate and holding for parking is not uncommon in peak times. Having said that, there's a load of planning involved, at no point will an an aircraft be given a slot and find there's literally nowhere to put it (!) Worst case is a return to mass bussing from the 130s and 140s.

http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/pamsl..._2_EGKK_2-2_en

[canberra97]

I notice on NATS website that the apron area around the new Pier 1 has opened and I asked a few weeks ago regarding when the new pier opens, seems like know one on here really knows as there has been no response.

[matt_0445]

Pier 1 still under construction.

[canberra97]

But still no date or timescale to when the new Pier 1 opens then?

[Flightrider]

WestJet planned turns at Gatwick:

737 arrives 0800 from Ottawa via St Johns, departs 0920
767 arrives 0925 from Toronto, departs 1055 to Calgary or Edmonton
767 arrives 1045 from Calgary or Edmonton, departs 1255 to Vancouver or Winnipeg
767 arrives 1125 from Vancouver or Winnipeg, departs 1315 to Toronto

Max of two 767s on the ground at once, with a third from the daily Air Canada Rouge proposed flight (1025/1200 turn).

Add to the mix the daily Cathay (arrive 0630 CX349, depart 1235 CX344) plus a potential fourth daily early afternoon Emirates DXB from 1 June (EK23/24 - B777-300 op), Norwegian's Boston and proposed Oakland services, the BA Lima, San Jose and JFK services, extra Virgin MCO 747 flights and it's a big big increase in widebody movements at Gatwick next year.

[NWSRG]

extra Virgin MCO 747 flights

More? Are they going beyond 2 (or sometimes 3) daily?

[LAX_LHR]

Plus a potential fourth daily early afternoon Emirates DXB from 1 June (EK23/24 - B777-300 op),

Where has this one come from, as EK23/24 has been earmarked for MAN for the past few years, even briefly appearing in GDS earlier this year with timings and all fare classes loaded against it?

Supposed to be a 3 class B77W arriving 1535 and departing 1705.

[True Blue]

So has CX gone as far as assigning flight numbers and times for this rumoured service to HKG?


TB

[Flightrider]

EK and CX have both applied for slots on the basis of the flights and schedules given. 4th EK was requested from 1 June. Looks like EK have decided LGW is a better bet than MAN for the extra daily, as they didn't apply for any increase in frequency at MAN.

VS MCO is up from a max of 15 flights per week in Summer 15 to a max of 18 747 flights per week in Summer 16, so a definite increase.

[RealFish]

'Presumably they will wait for the South Terminal switch to happen?'



When is the switch going to take place and BA head south?

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

The terminal switch is for Nov-16, subject to change.
BA moves South
VS move North
EZY consolidate North