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T250, I think the plan is for Virgin to move north with EZY which should leave plenty of space for BA/TS/DU/TCX to use the widebody stands. I wonder if Iberia Express and Qatar(if they do return) will move South with BA?
Just to add Norwegian are starting a weekly flight to Kefalonia next summer on Saturdays.
Just to add Norwegian are starting a weekly flight to Kefalonia next summer on Saturdays.
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It was rumoured recently that Pegasus was to start Istanbul (Saw) from the end of March and Qatar was to return from May. As nothing more has been heard of these, does anyone know if they will proceed/not proceed?
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Campaigners: Gatwick Airport has had ?woeful week? - Mid Sussex Times
Same question to Gatwick. At what point does the cost of a second runway actually become uneconomic ?
£6B or as i like to describe it 6000,000,000M.
£12B
Or as this campaign group suggests
£19B
If you have a premium product where demand outweighs supply is that not the perfect model ?
Same question to Gatwick. At what point does the cost of a second runway actually become uneconomic ?
£6B or as i like to describe it 6000,000,000M.
£12B
Or as this campaign group suggests
£19B
If you have a premium product where demand outweighs supply is that not the perfect model ?
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Bagso - Gatwick's Achilles heel has always been the fact that its airlines are simply not prepared to pay the increased airport charges that would result from a second runway. So you are absolutely right to question its viability.
In contrast, although Heathrow's charges are already higher and would rise further in the event of R3 going ahead, its airlines are likely to (reluctantly) accept the higher charges because of the overwhelming advantages of Heathrow (much higher fare yields etc).
To a large extent, GAL's campaign for R2 is a cynical exercise by its key shareholder GIP to boost its value ahead of a planned sell down of its shareholding within the next couple of years.
In contrast, although Heathrow's charges are already higher and would rise further in the event of R3 going ahead, its airlines are likely to (reluctantly) accept the higher charges because of the overwhelming advantages of Heathrow (much higher fare yields etc).
To a large extent, GAL's campaign for R2 is a cynical exercise by its key shareholder GIP to boost its value ahead of a planned sell down of its shareholding within the next couple of years.
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With the increasing pax numbers going through gatwick, what effect will this have on the main airlines there? It is probably fair to assume that the increases are not solely from new routes, but also increasing load factors on existing routes. So will easyjet and BA quickly find themselves with equipment that is too small? I know that BA are introducing some a320s, but is it not a fact that if you operate at a very high load factor, you are losing pax at busy times to other operators?
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GIP is what is known as a closed end fund, ie they have a defined period for holding the investments within the fund before realising their investments and distributing the proceeds to investors).
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On my computer, Norwegian is showing flights to N America in March, but no returns from Lgw. They are not showing as full, just not listed at all. In fact, the month almost seems greyed out for returns. April shows as normal. Is this a fault with their internet booking or something else?
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Hopefully DY will release a fuller longhaul schedule in due time, the days for New York aren't fantastic for a weekend break which I would think is a significant part of the leisure 'market' the flights will appeal most too. Would also be surprised not to see FLL or MCO over the winter, since it is a busier time for the former and the latter would do especially well during the half terms/Christmas holidays. Even including the 2-4 extra flights per week such additions could bring there would still appear to be room in the schedule for an additional route (BKK?).
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Midday A380 arrival for April.
EK15/16 upgraded to A380 from 1/4 to 20/4.
I wonder, just for that period, or could it be extended if popular?
Looking forward to seeing it in daylight.
PC
I wonder, just for that period, or could it be extended if popular?
Looking forward to seeing it in daylight.
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So easyjet and BA quickly find themselves with equipment that is too small? I know that BA are introducing some a320s, but is it not a fact that if you operate at a very high load factor, you are losing pax at busy times to other operators?
You make a valid point here. However, I think it is worth recognising that
1. both BA and easyJet are moving towards more 320's as they recognise lower unit operating cost, easyJet have clear plan to move in that direction and especially for LGW that is the right course of action where demand is high
2. From a yield management model perspective 319 has some advantages; the airlines would prefer to fill a smaller machine and collect higher fares on the last seats. BA bought a huge fleet of 319's for LHR when the airport was already at max capacity and this was at a time when a sizeable fleet of 757's were already the backbone of the fleet on short haul.
Hence, the airlines key priority is filling the existing ac and gaining max revenue, rather than worrying as much about losing pax. Though upgrading to 320's should help remedy that. BA are moving to increase the no of seats on its 320 fleet too.
Finally, if we consider the age profile of existing BA fleet. Some of which are 25 years +, whatever they buy now in the near future could be around in a very new environment in when either LHR or LGW may have extra runway capacity And as a result added competition, which might warrant a slightly smaller aircraft in some instances...