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vctenderness, you saw EI-LNB (with Thor Heyerdahl on its tail) arriving from Stocholm Arlanda with flight number DY2853. Gatwick gets this summer a twice daily 787 crew training flights on weekday. The last day of this service will be on Thursday 24 July. Gatwick saw similar flights last year flown with their at that time only 787 (EI-LNA), but all flights then originate at Oslo Gardermoen.
One hour behind EI-LNB today EI-LNG (Edvard Munch on its tail) arrived from Los Angeles. November Bravo was 1 hour 45 minutes late on arrival after an almost 2 hour 30 minutes late departure from Gatwick yesterday due to a technical issue. I fear tomorrow's arrival from JFK will as late as today's LAX arrival since the departure today to JFK from LGW was around 40 minutes late. JFK turn arounds tend to lose in average 1 hour, with half of it due to poor ground handling and the other half due to slow taxiing and waiting in line for taking off. The flight times to and from has got the usual JFK padding, but this summer has been worse than ever.
One hour behind EI-LNB today EI-LNG (Edvard Munch on its tail) arrived from Los Angeles. November Bravo was 1 hour 45 minutes late on arrival after an almost 2 hour 30 minutes late departure from Gatwick yesterday due to a technical issue. I fear tomorrow's arrival from JFK will as late as today's LAX arrival since the departure today to JFK from LGW was around 40 minutes late. JFK turn arounds tend to lose in average 1 hour, with half of it due to poor ground handling and the other half due to slow taxiing and waiting in line for taking off. The flight times to and from has got the usual JFK padding, but this summer has been worse than ever.
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Yes I know they are flying to USA destinations but didn't think the time I saw aircraft matched any arrivals.
Didn't know they flew 787 within Europe though.
As an aside I have heard two people this week voicing concerns that they have package holiday flights booked and discover it is Norwegian!
I don't think Norwegian have got their message across yet. One conversation I over heard in a Supermarket , I think, didn't even know where Norway is I think they thought it was some dodgy place in the former Soviet Union!
The other was a relative who is a seasoned traveller but thought it strange that she was travelling to Ibiza from Gatwick on a Norwegian airline.
They might need a bit more informative advertising.
Yes I know they are flying to USA destinations but didn't think the time I saw aircraft matched any arrivals.
Didn't know they flew 787 within Europe though.
As an aside I have heard two people this week voicing concerns that they have package holiday flights booked and discover it is Norwegian!
I don't think Norwegian have got their message across yet. One conversation I over heard in a Supermarket , I think, didn't even know where Norway is I think they thought it was some dodgy place in the former Soviet Union!
The other was a relative who is a seasoned traveller but thought it strange that she was travelling to Ibiza from Gatwick on a Norwegian airline.
They might need a bit more informative advertising.
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Norwegian are operating charter flights on behalf of the Tui travel group, something they have done for several years from Scandi land, people unaware of Norwegian are normally very impressed when they fly with them, they find the leg room way better than most bucket & spade operators plus the free wifi..
Charter flight numbers normally start with a 9
Charter flight numbers normally start with a 9
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I believe they are also selling seats on some of the scheduled flights to tour operators. Most people who use Norwegian for the first time do seem to rate them quite highly, although it is worth noting that the more typical charter/leisure airlines are beginning to close the gap product wise.
So far the long haul routes seem to have worked well, with only one significant delay (although 2 1/2 hours is nothing compared to some of the earlier ones they faced!), hopefully this will continue and the 787's will not cause too much trouble.
Anna Aero interviewed Stewart Wingate on the first day of the new services during which he indicated he would like to see them launch BKK, bring JFK up to a daily service and later on introduce routes to Chicago and San Francisco (which would almost certainly be Oakland). Obviously I am aware that this is very different to a significant figure within Norwegian making the same comments and it also depends on the 787 deliveries.
So far the long haul routes seem to have worked well, with only one significant delay (although 2 1/2 hours is nothing compared to some of the earlier ones they faced!), hopefully this will continue and the 787's will not cause too much trouble.
Anna Aero interviewed Stewart Wingate on the first day of the new services during which he indicated he would like to see them launch BKK, bring JFK up to a daily service and later on introduce routes to Chicago and San Francisco (which would almost certainly be Oakland). Obviously I am aware that this is very different to a significant figure within Norwegian making the same comments and it also depends on the 787 deliveries.
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Norwegian - New Routes
Norwegian have added 4 new routes for the winter:
Madeira: 2 weekly from 28/10
La Palma: 1 weekly from 1/11
Grenoble: 1 weekly from 13/12
Salzburg: 1 weekly from 13/12
Lanzarote, Rome and Larnaca will also see frequency increases.
Newsdesk - Norwegian
The article also states Norwegian currently have 8 737's based there, is this correct?
Madeira: 2 weekly from 28/10
La Palma: 1 weekly from 1/11
Grenoble: 1 weekly from 13/12
Salzburg: 1 weekly from 13/12
Lanzarote, Rome and Larnaca will also see frequency increases.
Newsdesk - Norwegian
The article also states Norwegian currently have 8 737's based there, is this correct?
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Five based 737-800s (Four cover scheduled ops, one for TUI charters) and one 787-8.
An additional LPA based aircraft nightstops on two days a week, and one each from CPH/ARN/OSL nightstops on Saturday night. So 8 nightstopping on Saturday night, although one will operate the new CFU route overnight during August.
An additional LPA based aircraft nightstops on two days a week, and one each from CPH/ARN/OSL nightstops on Saturday night. So 8 nightstopping on Saturday night, although one will operate the new CFU route overnight during August.
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Gatwick always states in press releases that it is connected to 46 of the 50 top business destinations in Europe. Apart from Frankfurt, what are the others that are missing?
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According to FT BA are to add LGW-FUE twice weekly from December.
BA2700 LGW1430 | FUE1850 3 319
BA2700 LGW1140 | FUE1600 6 320
BA2701 FUE1935 | LGW2345 3 319
BA2701 FUE1645 | LGW2055 6 320
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BA long haul expansion?
There is talk on a.net of BA having a plan to move all 3 class 772's to LGW along with the associated routes (BKK mentioned also NAS/GCM which are 767 routes?), with the current 4 class routes heading the opposite direction (BDA, BGI + tag ons). That would be an interesting move from BA, but I am unsure if it would work out any better than the existing situation for BA.
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What would that achieve ?
I could see the point of moving some of the 3 class routes to LGW as it would free up slots at LHR but the LGW routes (4&3 class ) are at gatters for a reason.
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I could see the point of moving some of the 3 class routes to LGW as it would free up slots at LHR but the LGW routes (4&3 class ) are at gatters for a reason.
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I tend to agree with Cornishsimon. I think you will find that such talk is speculative tittle tattle.
I can see the 777 fleet being increased at Gatwick in the next year or so but the mix of aircraft at the moment helps keep operations flexible.
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I can see the 777 fleet being increased at Gatwick in the next year or so but the mix of aircraft at the moment helps keep operations flexible.
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Trouble with some of the LHR longhaul routes is the feed.
BKK, NAS/GCM all have connecting traffic, if BA were to move some routes to Gatters I feel that connecting routes also need to be added.
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BKK, NAS/GCM all have connecting traffic, if BA were to move some routes to Gatters I feel that connecting routes also need to be added.
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It does seem a little odd, although I would not write it off entirely as it was only mentioned to be 'a plan' in the sense that it is one of many options. I could perhaps see some of the lower yielding and more O&D based 3 class routes (BKK springs to mind) move to LGW to make room for longhaul expansion at LHR but I do agree moving all 3 class 772's does not make all that much sense
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Further to my last post and similar to one posted elsewhere I will add this;
'Some of the mentioned routes need feed and that isn't really available at Gatwick. Unless of course there is really a radical plan!!
However, that I just do not believe is the case. The mix BA has put together both LH and SH is beginning to pay dividends so why risk recent gains?
Of course if in the long term Gatwick got the 2nd runway over Heathrow's 3rd things could radically change.
I had better have a cold shower as I will also be guilty of speculative tittle tattle. Apologies!!!'
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'Some of the mentioned routes need feed and that isn't really available at Gatwick. Unless of course there is really a radical plan!!
However, that I just do not believe is the case. The mix BA has put together both LH and SH is beginning to pay dividends so why risk recent gains?
Of course if in the long term Gatwick got the 2nd runway over Heathrow's 3rd things could radically change.
I had better have a cold shower as I will also be guilty of speculative tittle tattle. Apologies!!!'
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British Airways may also need to think about countering any more possible long haul development by Norwegian. With BA's plans to expand capacity at BA Holidays it may be an idea to look again at places such as the Seychelles and Phuket for example. Ft Lauderdale has already been claimed by Norwegian. Could be interesting.
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