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Increases so far, for 2007 are Pisa upto 5 weekly from the one a week this year. Ibiza up from 5 a week to daily with some flights operating full season. Looks like Malaga going upto double daily 757 also, from 1 757 and 1 737 this year.
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Anyone know how the new Manx2 IOM LBA service is doing
Wasn't overly impressed with the Let-410 either, made a Jetstream seem like the height of luxury!
But it's a direct link from LBA so I wish them well.
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Jet2LBA you stole my thunder mate! I too did a day returen yeasterday (6th Sept) £39 rtn to go and see an old work mate and a bit of lunch in Douglas. I flew on the Silver Air Let-410 (OK-SLD i think it was) on both flights. 8 pax and a on time dept in the morning and 16 pax on the return. Very smooth flights. Aircraft is a bit tatty inside but not as bad as the old bmi Fokker's! No loo's on board and at check-in at the IOM there are cards on the desk telling you to go before you fly. No cabin crew or service on board which is fine for a 40 min flight.
The safety breifing was the best part of the flight though with the FO giving the usual speel in broken english. I really liked the bit when he was explaining the life jackets. " these are under your seat for WHEN (not if) we belly land in the sea again" AGAIN!, the 2 business guys said to each other in front of me with a smile. Overall a really nice flight which seem to be going well after only 3 weeks of operations judging by the loads. On the return flight there were only 2 of us not in business dress as it were so i would have thought they would be paying the 'Manx Gold' fares.
Good luck to them for the future.
The safety breifing was the best part of the flight though with the FO giving the usual speel in broken english. I really liked the bit when he was explaining the life jackets. " these are under your seat for WHEN (not if) we belly land in the sea again" AGAIN!, the 2 business guys said to each other in front of me with a smile. Overall a really nice flight which seem to be going well after only 3 weeks of operations judging by the loads. On the return flight there were only 2 of us not in business dress as it were so i would have thought they would be paying the 'Manx Gold' fares.
Good luck to them for the future.
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Thanks for the Manx2 LBA update guys. Glad you enjoyed the awayday in downtown douglas. I'm on the BLK IOM next week 
(HA YFG flies this one i think) 
I'll reciprocate with in-flight entertainment stories. Nice one
incidentaly, i hear the LBA IOM route is being upgraded to J31/32 next week?? . Hope they don't change the pax briefing tho.
(HA YFG flies this one i think) I'll reciprocate with in-flight entertainment stories. Nice one incidentaly, i hear the LBA IOM route is being upgraded to J31/32 next week?? . Hope they don't change the pax briefing tho.
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Jet2LBA you stole my thunder mate! I too did a day returen yeasterday (6th Sept) £39 rtn to go and see an old work mate
No loo's on board and at check-in at the IOM there are cards on the desk telling you to go before you fly.
I'm on the BLK IOM next week (HA YFG flies this one i think)
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Anyone know why there was as Jet2 flight to LIS this morning (departed as LS6080)?
Obviously a charter of some sort, but can't help feeling it would be a nice addition to the list of scheduled destinations from LBA too!
Obviously a charter of some sort, but can't help feeling it would be a nice addition to the list of scheduled destinations from LBA too!
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For ROB:
LBA is pretty much run by certain airlines, Jet2 and BMI have the monopoly here so charter companies can charge what they want for a week in egypt, as mentioned by someone else, MAN will have First Choice, Thomsonfly, My Travel and Thomas Cook all operating similar flights to similar destinations, and the competition obviously means more competitive prices...
LBA can have a charter flight to TABA or whereever and charge what they want until someone like Jet2 comes along offering the flights for 30 odd quid, until then you will have to be patient and think about going somewhere else if you dont want to fly from MAN...
As for Jet2 Lisbon, read an article in a paper today (nothing to do with LIS) but was on about low cost expansion in MADRID BARAJAS and in fact the whole of spain, so maybe Madrid could be an up and coming route?
new destinations set to be announced iv heard are Cyprus!
LBA is pretty much run by certain airlines, Jet2 and BMI have the monopoly here so charter companies can charge what they want for a week in egypt, as mentioned by someone else, MAN will have First Choice, Thomsonfly, My Travel and Thomas Cook all operating similar flights to similar destinations, and the competition obviously means more competitive prices...
LBA can have a charter flight to TABA or whereever and charge what they want until someone like Jet2 comes along offering the flights for 30 odd quid, until then you will have to be patient and think about going somewhere else if you dont want to fly from MAN...
As for Jet2 Lisbon, read an article in a paper today (nothing to do with LIS) but was on about low cost expansion in MADRID BARAJAS and in fact the whole of spain, so maybe Madrid could be an up and coming route?
new destinations set to be announced iv heard are Cyprus!
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Jet2 to Almeria
Jet 2 just announced their 26th route from Leeds. This one is a 4 times a week service to Almeria, Spain starting 14 May. A welcomed addition to the LBA network and a new destination, having never been served by charter or schedule before.
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For ROB:
LBA is pretty much run by certain airlines, Jet2 and BMI have the monopoly here so charter companies can charge what they want for a week in egypt, as mentioned by someone else, MAN will have First Choice, Thomsonfly, My Travel and Thomas Cook all operating similar flights to similar destinations, and the competition obviously means more competitive prices...
LBA can have a charter flight to TABA or whereever and charge what they want until someone like Jet2 comes along offering the flights for 30 odd quid, until then you will have to be patient and think about going somewhere else if you dont want to fly from MAN...
LBA is pretty much run by certain airlines, Jet2 and BMI have the monopoly here so charter companies can charge what they want for a week in egypt, as mentioned by someone else, MAN will have First Choice, Thomsonfly, My Travel and Thomas Cook all operating similar flights to similar destinations, and the competition obviously means more competitive prices...
LBA can have a charter flight to TABA or whereever and charge what they want until someone like Jet2 comes along offering the flights for 30 odd quid, until then you will have to be patient and think about going somewhere else if you dont want to fly from MAN...
I have booked pax for LPA for last 2 years running and TOM have diverted the airport to DSA 2 years running - they pay the LBA price because they want LBA, then all of the sudden they are left high and dry with a choice of DSA or book another holiday.
Why must the flight go from DSA, its smaller than LBA ? ! I mean TOM are keen enough to bring the 767-300 up here when its cruise season (wouldnt be because people on those flights have money to burn now would it?)
Other destinations go from MAN on a regular basis yes, but again the customer wants LBA and trust me there are lots of them. And therefore we have a scenario where pax are forced into destinations they really didnt want to go to.
If Jet2 come along offering taba (or whatever else) for 30 odd quid the charters will simply stop the destination, so its a 2 way battle. Perhaps its the end of the road for the charter companies anyway (I certainly hope so) ??
And with the possibility of Greek and Turkish destinations from Jet2 for 2007 things could begin to look that way for LBA.
No doubt you will say these companies such as TOM are trying to run a business, yes of course they are, but in the end the customer will go elsewhere if they dont get what they want (look at M&S for a classic case). Then what ?
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BD are increasing the LHR service to 5 x weekdays this winter. The existing 4 flights stay at more or less the same times, with the addition of a late evening service, dep LBA 21:00, arr LHR 22:00, dep LHR 22:30 arr LBA 23:30, using an LBA based ER4 (maybe the one which arrives back from EDI in the early evening?).
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The 5th flight is just a slot retainer for the winter. It's cheaper to run an EM4 up and down to LHR all winter, than not use it, and lose it. Come next summer it will be axed, and the slot used for something more lucrative into Europe.
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Jet2 LIS Mystery Solved
The recent Jet2 flights to/from LIS from both BHX and LBA were a private, one-off charter by Lexus cars - that's all.
Sorry to disappoint this time - as a Jet2 pilot I always aim to please
tg
Sorry to disappoint this time - as a Jet2 pilot I always aim to please
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http://www.leedstoday.net/ViewArticl...icleID=1773114
SENIOR councillors are expected to give their backing to a sale of Leeds-Bradford Airport which will net West Yorkshire councils a windfall worth tens of millions of pounds.
And if the sale goes through the airport at Yeadon – which in July alone attracted over 309,000 passengers – could be in private hands next year.
The airport is owned by West Yorkshire's five district councils with Leeds and Bradford each holding 40 per cent of the stake and the remaining 20 per cent split equally between Wakefield, Kirklees and Calderdale.
While council officials are reluctant to reveal the amount of cash a sale could raise, local authorities in the North East shared £194m when they sold a stake in Newcastle Airport three years ago.
The YEP revealed last year that Leeds City Council's ruling Conservative-Liberal Democrat-Green coalition was considering a possible sell-off.
Consultants Ernst and Young were hired to provide financial and legal advice and the council's executive board, which meets next Wednesday, is being recommended to support an outright sale.
If other shareholders do not agree, a report to the board says Leeds should try to participate in a sale of at least 60 per cent of the airport which would allow the city to dispose of its 40 per cent holding.
Passenger numbers are expected to continue to grow over the next 10 years and significant investment will be needed to improve services, terminal facilities and road and rail access.
Hard-pressed councils could struggle to raise that cash. Supporters of a sale say local authorities would receive much-needed money and argue the private sector would be better placed to raise the cash.
Opponents, particularly some Labour councillors, are likely to claim it smacks of "selling the family silver".
The report to the board says that Ernst and Young indicated that "there is currently a significant appetite in the market for regional airports like Leeds and Bradford".
It adds that any transaction would need to be completed "on a timely basis".
The airport would be marketed internationally with bids and business plans to be submitted by next February. Councillors would then select a preferred bidder in March or April and officers would be left to negotiate the final sale.
The report says discussions have been held with the other shareholders who had indicated support for a form of sale
SENIOR councillors are expected to give their backing to a sale of Leeds-Bradford Airport which will net West Yorkshire councils a windfall worth tens of millions of pounds.
And if the sale goes through the airport at Yeadon – which in July alone attracted over 309,000 passengers – could be in private hands next year.
The airport is owned by West Yorkshire's five district councils with Leeds and Bradford each holding 40 per cent of the stake and the remaining 20 per cent split equally between Wakefield, Kirklees and Calderdale.
While council officials are reluctant to reveal the amount of cash a sale could raise, local authorities in the North East shared £194m when they sold a stake in Newcastle Airport three years ago.
The YEP revealed last year that Leeds City Council's ruling Conservative-Liberal Democrat-Green coalition was considering a possible sell-off.
Consultants Ernst and Young were hired to provide financial and legal advice and the council's executive board, which meets next Wednesday, is being recommended to support an outright sale.
If other shareholders do not agree, a report to the board says Leeds should try to participate in a sale of at least 60 per cent of the airport which would allow the city to dispose of its 40 per cent holding.
Passenger numbers are expected to continue to grow over the next 10 years and significant investment will be needed to improve services, terminal facilities and road and rail access.
Hard-pressed councils could struggle to raise that cash. Supporters of a sale say local authorities would receive much-needed money and argue the private sector would be better placed to raise the cash.
Opponents, particularly some Labour councillors, are likely to claim it smacks of "selling the family silver".
The report to the board says that Ernst and Young indicated that "there is currently a significant appetite in the market for regional airports like Leeds and Bradford".
It adds that any transaction would need to be completed "on a timely basis".
The airport would be marketed internationally with bids and business plans to be submitted by next February. Councillors would then select a preferred bidder in March or April and officers would be left to negotiate the final sale.
The report says discussions have been held with the other shareholders who had indicated support for a form of sale
This can only be good news
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from the report itself;
3.3 In addition to the three primary objectives idetified above, the five West Yorkshire districts have also identified two further objectives that need to be incorporated into the preferred transaction structure, namely:
- the name of the airport remains Leeds Bradford International Airport
- the Airport continues to operate as an internaitonal airport business
also of interest is the following paragraph which I presume is intended to disuade Peel or MAG from making a bid unless they are able to provide reassurance to the shareholders that competition issues will not be a problem. I would have though the likliehood of either Peel or MAG being able to provide such assurance in the timetable proposed is unlikely.
4.12 during the sale process, it is proposed that the five West Yorkshire Districts implement a transaction structure that allows for bids which give rise to competition issues to be managed effectively. It is proposed that bidders will be required to provide a certificate, or reasoned statement, with supporting evidence, demonstrating to the shareholders satisfaction that all competition clearances required are likely to be received, and that the impact of acquisition will not impact on competition issues in the market.
the full report can be read here (page 270 onwards)
http://www.leeds.gov.uk/moderngov/Published/C00000102/M00001102/$$ADocPackPublic.pdf
3.3 In addition to the three primary objectives idetified above, the five West Yorkshire districts have also identified two further objectives that need to be incorporated into the preferred transaction structure, namely:
- the name of the airport remains Leeds Bradford International Airport
- the Airport continues to operate as an internaitonal airport business
also of interest is the following paragraph which I presume is intended to disuade Peel or MAG from making a bid unless they are able to provide reassurance to the shareholders that competition issues will not be a problem. I would have though the likliehood of either Peel or MAG being able to provide such assurance in the timetable proposed is unlikely.
4.12 during the sale process, it is proposed that the five West Yorkshire Districts implement a transaction structure that allows for bids which give rise to competition issues to be managed effectively. It is proposed that bidders will be required to provide a certificate, or reasoned statement, with supporting evidence, demonstrating to the shareholders satisfaction that all competition clearances required are likely to be received, and that the impact of acquisition will not impact on competition issues in the market.
the full report can be read here (page 270 onwards)
http://www.leeds.gov.uk/moderngov/Published/C00000102/M00001102/$$ADocPackPublic.pdf
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Does anyone know why the early morning departure is so frequently delayed.
Again this morning more than 1 hour late.
The Jet2 flight to Amsterdam seems to be always more or less on time so I assume it is not a problem at AMS.
I have lost count of how many times I have missed my onward connections with KLM.
Again this morning more than 1 hour late.
The Jet2 flight to Amsterdam seems to be always more or less on time so I assume it is not a problem at AMS.
I have lost count of how many times I have missed my onward connections with KLM.