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Eastern Airways ATR72s & back to the future
Looks like oil workers will be flying to/from Scatsta on ATR72-600s shortly.
Reading the Eastern thread, they have two on order, first one (to be registered G-IACY) just arrived in the UK for painting - wonder what sort of livery they will have. Both are slated to be based in ABZ.
These will displace some if not all of the S2000s oil flights, indeed some suggestions that T3 may phase out use of the type altogether. A shame as whilst I am not privy to their reliability, they seem to be well-suited to Shetland flights, as with its smaller brother the S340. Sadly Saab are not in the civilian market anymore, so I guess it becomes increasingly difficult to service airframes that are not getting any younger.
It's a kind of 'back to the future' as I recall British World using
2x ATR70-200s to Shetland in the late 90s (regns G-OILA & G-OILB if anyone is old enough to remember them!). As I recall, these replaced the venerable Viscount 800s, but they themselves didn't last that long, being replaced by ATPs before Brit World themselves succumbed post 9/11 to be replaced by 146s of Flightline.
Reading the Eastern thread, they have two on order, first one (to be registered G-IACY) just arrived in the UK for painting - wonder what sort of livery they will have. Both are slated to be based in ABZ.
These will displace some if not all of the S2000s oil flights, indeed some suggestions that T3 may phase out use of the type altogether. A shame as whilst I am not privy to their reliability, they seem to be well-suited to Shetland flights, as with its smaller brother the S340. Sadly Saab are not in the civilian market anymore, so I guess it becomes increasingly difficult to service airframes that are not getting any younger.
It's a kind of 'back to the future' as I recall British World using
2x ATR70-200s to Shetland in the late 90s (regns G-OILA & G-OILB if anyone is old enough to remember them!). As I recall, these replaced the venerable Viscount 800s, but they themselves didn't last that long, being replaced by ATPs before Brit World themselves succumbed post 9/11 to be replaced by 146s of Flightline.
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Ryanair
Great to see Ryanair seem happy with how the ABZ routes have performed.
Provisional S18 schedule now on sale with it being a carbon copy of this year - at least for now with the only difference currently being that FAO starts earlier and will run for the whole season next year.
The listing the airport has on the route shop (which they never seem to update) lists the following sun routes:
Alicante
Barcelona
Faro
Madrid
Malaga
Malta
Paphos
All are existing FR Bases and there does seem to be a trend developing.
Provisional S18 schedule now on sale with it being a carbon copy of this year - at least for now with the only difference currently being that FAO starts earlier and will run for the whole season next year.
The listing the airport has on the route shop (which they never seem to update) lists the following sun routes:
Alicante
Barcelona
Faro
Madrid
Malaga
Malta
Paphos
All are existing FR Bases and there does seem to be a trend developing.
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Apparently Malta is down to be 2w, but I don't know which days of the week yet.
Barca has been served before on/off at Aberdeen - Flyglobespan & maybe Air Scotland before that;
Paphos definitely was flown by Fgs;
Madrid - cannot recall for sure of we've had MAD before, maybe Air Scotland flew it?
Perhaps a topic for discussion. Many on here may recall that ABZ for a short time had Transat holiday flights in the 90s:
Orlando/Puerta Plata (Thomson, Britannia B762, alternating between the two destinations every fortnight or so);
Toronto (Air Transat B752)
Outbound had to have a pick-up/fuel stop as the flights couldn't make it direct;
Inbound was usually direct having used up sufficient fuel on the crossing.
Don't recall how successful they were though.
With the advent of the next gen NEO/MAX aircraft that we are seeing on transat flights (well the 7M8 anyway with the Airbus NEOs probably hot on their heels) what chance does ABZ have to be served - either IT or schedules - using such aircraft in the future?
Not saying it will happen, but just curious about any thoughts.
Barca has been served before on/off at Aberdeen - Flyglobespan & maybe Air Scotland before that;
Paphos definitely was flown by Fgs;
Madrid - cannot recall for sure of we've had MAD before, maybe Air Scotland flew it?
Perhaps a topic for discussion. Many on here may recall that ABZ for a short time had Transat holiday flights in the 90s:
Orlando/Puerta Plata (Thomson, Britannia B762, alternating between the two destinations every fortnight or so);
Toronto (Air Transat B752)
Outbound had to have a pick-up/fuel stop as the flights couldn't make it direct;
Inbound was usually direct having used up sufficient fuel on the crossing.
Don't recall how successful they were though.
With the advent of the next gen NEO/MAX aircraft that we are seeing on transat flights (well the 7M8 anyway with the Airbus NEOs probably hot on their heels) what chance does ABZ have to be served - either IT or schedules - using such aircraft in the future?
Not saying it will happen, but just curious about any thoughts.
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There's a hole in the runway?
Aberdeen Airport runway closure - BBC News
Apparently they are looking into it.
1945: looks like they fixed it, KLC to AMS not long departed.
Apparently they are looking into it.
1945: looks like they fixed it, KLC to AMS not long departed.
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If my memory serves me correctly Air Transat used an A310 on the Toronto runs did they not?
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Seems the issue yesterday was at the north end of the runway, where I think they have had problems at least once before. Wonder if it was part of the area that was extended in the last few years.
Was having a nosey at the ABZ Official Twitter feed, nothing yet about the new RYR route to Malta for S18, which is quite surprising given it is a route we have not had in quite some time & is welcome expansion. Then again I haven't heard or seen anything in local news either so far. The RYR announcement was in Malta on Friday, so maybe the equivalent UK/local announcement comes later.
Re Air Transat, I have a pic of a TSC B752 departing ABZ, & was always that type as far as I recall. But always possible they did utilise the A310 at times I was unaware of.
Was having a nosey at the ABZ Official Twitter feed, nothing yet about the new RYR route to Malta for S18, which is quite surprising given it is a route we have not had in quite some time & is welcome expansion. Then again I haven't heard or seen anything in local news either so far. The RYR announcement was in Malta on Friday, so maybe the equivalent UK/local announcement comes later.
Re Air Transat, I have a pic of a TSC B752 departing ABZ, & was always that type as far as I recall. But always possible they did utilise the A310 at times I was unaware of.
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Aug 2017 - growth continues
292,607 passengers, up 3.1% overall on same period last year.
Increases in both domestic and international recorded.
Good to see ABZ continuing to enjoy the growth reflected at other airports around the country.
Of interest for Sept was the numbers at OE 2017 - 36,000 delegates apparently, down from 56,000 in 2015. Quite a drop, so no real need for airlines to provide increased rotations or capacity as of old. Said to reflect the current reality in the oil industry, but also numbers were undoubtedly impacted by delegates from Houston not being able to make the trip in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey.
Increases in both domestic and international recorded.
Good to see ABZ continuing to enjoy the growth reflected at other airports around the country.
Of interest for Sept was the numbers at OE 2017 - 36,000 delegates apparently, down from 56,000 in 2015. Quite a drop, so no real need for airlines to provide increased rotations or capacity as of old. Said to reflect the current reality in the oil industry, but also numbers were undoubtedly impacted by delegates from Houston not being able to make the trip in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey.
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Seems the issue yesterday was at the north end of the runway, where I think they have had problems at least once before. Wonder if it was part of the area that was extended in the last few years.
Was having a nosey at the ABZ Official Twitter feed, nothing yet about the new RYR route to Malta for S18, which is quite surprising given it is a route we have not had in quite some time & is welcome expansion. Then again I haven't heard or seen anything in local news either so far. The RYR announcement was in Malta on Friday, so maybe the equivalent UK/local announcement comes later.
Re Air Transat, I have a pic of a TSC B752 departing ABZ, & was always that type as far as I recall. But always possible they did utilise the A310 at times I was unaware of.
Was having a nosey at the ABZ Official Twitter feed, nothing yet about the new RYR route to Malta for S18, which is quite surprising given it is a route we have not had in quite some time & is welcome expansion. Then again I haven't heard or seen anything in local news either so far. The RYR announcement was in Malta on Friday, so maybe the equivalent UK/local announcement comes later.
Re Air Transat, I have a pic of a TSC B752 departing ABZ, & was always that type as far as I recall. But always possible they did utilise the A310 at times I was unaware of.
Edited: MLA now on sale, twice weekly from 25/3/17, Days 3 & 7
Air Transat definitely used the A310 in 2001 which was their last year. Gary Watt has a few pics on Airliners.net of them in.
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Apparently Malta is down to be 2w, but I don't know which days of the week yet.
Barca has been served before on/off at Aberdeen - Flyglobespan & maybe Air Scotland before that;
Paphos definitely was flown by Fgs;
Madrid - cannot recall for sure of we've had MAD before, maybe Air Scotland flew it?
Perhaps a topic for discussion. Many on here may recall that ABZ for a short time had Transat holiday flights in the 90s:
Orlando/Puerta Plata (Thomson, Britannia B762, alternating between the two destinations every fortnight or so);
Toronto (Air Transat B752)
Outbound had to have a pick-up/fuel stop as the flights couldn't make it direct;
Inbound was usually direct having used up sufficient fuel on the crossing.
Don't recall how successful they were though.
With the advent of the next gen NEO/MAX aircraft that we are seeing on transat flights (well the 7M8 anyway with the Airbus NEOs probably hot on their heels) what chance does ABZ have to be served - either IT or schedules - using such aircraft in the future?
Not saying it will happen, but just curious about any thoughts.
Barca has been served before on/off at Aberdeen - Flyglobespan & maybe Air Scotland before that;
Paphos definitely was flown by Fgs;
Madrid - cannot recall for sure of we've had MAD before, maybe Air Scotland flew it?
Perhaps a topic for discussion. Many on here may recall that ABZ for a short time had Transat holiday flights in the 90s:
Orlando/Puerta Plata (Thomson, Britannia B762, alternating between the two destinations every fortnight or so);
Toronto (Air Transat B752)
Outbound had to have a pick-up/fuel stop as the flights couldn't make it direct;
Inbound was usually direct having used up sufficient fuel on the crossing.
Don't recall how successful they were though.
With the advent of the next gen NEO/MAX aircraft that we are seeing on transat flights (well the 7M8 anyway with the Airbus NEOs probably hot on their heels) what chance does ABZ have to be served - either IT or schedules - using such aircraft in the future?
Not saying it will happen, but just curious about any thoughts.
Going by MTOW and runway length at ABZ the MAX/NEO could make at least the New York region from our dear field. Mentioned to the AIAL that they should speak to Norwegian
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Think I read somewhere that Gama's new hangarage/offices at the airport now operational.
New Gama Aviation Facility at Aberdeen Airport - Curtis Moore (Cladding Systems) Ltd
Above was the plan from this article last year. Not sure if the pic in the article was the mocked up plan, or what the facility looked like before the plans were announced.
New Gama Aviation Facility at Aberdeen Airport - Curtis Moore (Cladding Systems) Ltd
Above was the plan from this article last year. Not sure if the pic in the article was the mocked up plan, or what the facility looked like before the plans were announced.
Not open yet Richard. Building is still fenced off landside.
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Local press have got the NE Scotland angle on easyjet's announcement today:
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...-haul-service/
Interesting the EZY story also picks up on them also selling stand-alone Loganair tickets, to enable passengers arriving in Scotland on EZY to travel on with LOG.
Don't know if that means any change to the timings/frequency of the LGW flights.
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...-haul-service/
Interesting the EZY story also picks up on them also selling stand-alone Loganair tickets, to enable passengers arriving in Scotland on EZY to travel on with LOG.
Don't know if that means any change to the timings/frequency of the LGW flights.
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To subsidise... or not to subsidise?
Notice this story appearing today:
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...g-to-aberdeen/
Do the Scot Conservatives have a point, or making political mischief?
I thought the Scot Govt had put money in to the terminal redevelopment or is my memory playing tricks. Maybe wee Nic was just shown around. They've certainly put money into the harbour redevelopment as part of City Deal funding.
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...g-to-aberdeen/
Do the Scot Conservatives have a point, or making political mischief?
I thought the Scot Govt had put money in to the terminal redevelopment or is my memory playing tricks. Maybe wee Nic was just shown around. They've certainly put money into the harbour redevelopment as part of City Deal funding.
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The employment for the local economy at Prestwick could be maintained half an hour up the road at no cost to the tax payer. Nothing more than a political move back by the SNP.
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With the oil industry on the up again - in large part because they have been subsidised through the down-turn by removing all requirement for them to pay tax - it would be an outrage if their main Scottish airport was given direct taxpayer subsidy.
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Well, presumably the airports that require a subsidy to remain in existence, because without it, they wouldn't be "in existence"!
who actually want's to be in the position of requiring a subsidy to remain in existence?
