Emirates

[Seljuk22]

Emirates announced several changes for the coming weeks/months

01 February
DFW (EK221/222) from daily A380 to daily B77W
IAD (EK231/232) from daily B77W to daily A380
AMS (EK149/150) from daily B77W to daily A380
MUC (EK053/054) new third daily with B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily B77L to daily B77W
LUN HRE (EK713/714) from daily A343 to daily B77W
EBB (EK729/730) from daily B77L to daily A343

01 March
SIN MEL (EK404/405) from daily B77W to daily A380
AMM (EK905/906) from daily B773 to daily B77W
BEY (EK957/958) from daily B773 to daily B77W
ABV (EK785/786) from daily B772 to daily B773
DAC (EK586/587) from daily 2-class A332 to daily 2-class B77W
KHI (EK610/611) from daily 2-class A332 to daily 2-class B77W
LCA ATH (EK107/108) new second daily ATH with B77W
TUN MLA (EK749) new 5 weekly triangular route with A343
TUN (EK747/748) 5 weekly A343 cancelled
LCA-MLA (EK107/108) daily A332 cancelled

27 March
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ATH (EK105/106) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
DAC (EK586/587) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A332
MNL (EK336/337) new 4 weekly 2-class B77W
SIN (EK352/353) from daily B773 to daily B77W
FCO (EK099/100) from daily B773 to daily B77W
DEL (EK516/517) from daily EQV to daily B773
BLR (EK568/569) from daily B77W to daily B773
BOM (EK508/509) from daily B772 to daily B77L
CAI (EK925/926) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly B77W
IKA (EK979/980) from daily B773 to daily B77W
ADD (EK723/724) from daily A332 to daily B773
MED (EK807/808) from 4 weekly A332 to 4 weekly B773
DMM (EK823/824) from daily A332 to daily B77W

30 March
NEW: CEB CRK (EK338) new daily triangular route with 2-class B77W

31 March
NEW: PTY (EK251/252) new daily with B77L

01 May
TPE (EK366/367) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
DAC (EK586/587) from daily 2-class A332 to daily 2-class B77W
PRG (EK139/140) from daily B77W to daily A380
CMB (EK654/655) from 6 weekly B773 to 6 weekly B77W
NBO (EK721/722) from daily B773 to daily B77W
ADD (EK723/724) from daily B773 to daily B77W
RUH (EK815/816) from daily A332 to daily B77W
EBB (EK729/730) from daily A343 to daily B773

03 May
NEW: INC CGO (EK326/327) new four weekly with B77L

08 May - 30 September
BNE (EK432/433) from one stop via SIN to nonstop daily B77W

01 June
MUC (EK053/054) from daily B77W to daily A380
GVA (EK083/084) new second daily with B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily B77W to daily A380
ALG (EK757/758) from 5 weekly B773 to 5 weekly B77W
TUN MLA (TK749) from 5 weekly A343 to 5 weekly B773
SKT (EK620/621) from daily A332 to daily A343
KRT (EK733/734) from 4 weekly A332 to 4 weekly A343

01 July
IAH (EK211/212) from daily A380 to daily B77W
LAX (EK217/218) new second daily with A380
MXP (EK091/092) from daily B77W to daily A380
LYS (EK081/082) from 5 weekly B77L to 5 weekly B77W
BEY (EK953/954) from daily B77L to daily B77W

01 August
PER (EK424/425) from daily B77W to daily A380
BAH (EK835/836) from daily A332 to daily B77W
BAH (EK839/840) from daily A332 to daily B77W

01 September
DFW (EK221/222) from daily B77W to daily A380

01 October
CCU (EK570/571) from daily B772 to daily B77W

[Seljuk22]

Emirates announced the world longest route from 1st March DXB-AKL nonstop as well as a 6th daily flight to LHR from 27th March and a 5th daily to CMB from 1st August. DUS will be double daily A380 from 1st July.

01 March
SIN MEL (EK404/405) from daily B77W to daily A380
AMM (EK905/906) from daily B773 to daily B77W
BEY (EK957/958) from daily B773 to daily B77W
ABV (EK785/786) from daily B772 to daily B773
DAC (EK586/587) from daily 2-class A332 to daily 2-class B77W
KHI (EK610/611) from daily 2-class A332 to daily 2-class B77W
LCA ATH (EK107/108) new 5 weekly ATH via LCA with B77W
LCA MLA (EK109/110) new 2 weekly with A343
TUN MLA (EK749) new 5 weekly triangular route with A343
LYS (EK081/082) from 5 weekly B77L to 5 weekly B77W
NEW: AKL (EK448/449) new daily nonstop with B77L

27 March
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ATH (EK105/106) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
LHR (EK031/032) new sixth daily with B77W
MNL (EK336/337) new 4 weekly 2-class B77W
SIN (EK352/353) from daily B773 to daily B77W
FCO (EK099/100) from daily B773 to daily B77W
DEL (EK516/517) from daily EQV to daily B773
BLR (EK568/569) from daily B77W to daily B773
BOM (EK508/509) from daily B772 to daily B77L
CAI (EK925/926) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly B77W
IKA (EK979/980) from daily B773 to daily B77W
ADD (EK723/724) from daily A332 to daily B773
MED (EK807/808) from 4 weekly A332 to 4 weekly B773
DMM (EK823/824) from daily A332 to daily B77W
DAC (EK586/587) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A332

30 March
NEW: CEB CRK (EK338) new daily triangular route with 2-class B77W

31 March
NEW: PTY (EK251/252) new daily with B77L

01 May
TPE (EK366/367) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
DAC (EK586/587) from daily 2-class A332 to daily 2-class B77W
PRG (EK139/140) from daily B77W to daily A380
CMB (EK654/655) from 6 weekly B773 to 6 weekly B77W
NBO (EK721/722) from daily B773 to daily B77W
ADD (EK723/724) from daily B773 to daily B77W
RUH (EK815/816) from daily A332 to daily B77W
EBB (EK729/730) from daily A343 to daily B773

03 May
NEW: INC CGO (EK326/327) new four weekly with B77L

08 May - 30 September
BNE (EK432/433) from one stop via SIN to nonstop daily B77W

01 June
LHR (EK031/032) from daily B77W to daily A380
MUC (EK053/054) from daily B77W to daily A380
GVA (EK083/084) new second daily with B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily B77W to daily A380
ALG (EK757/758) from 5 weekly B773 to 5 weekly B77W
TUN MLA (EK749) from 5 weekly A343 to 5 weekly B773
LCA MLA (EK109/110) from 2 weekly A343 to 2 weekly B77W
SKT (EK620/621) from daily A332 to daily A343
KRT (EK733/734) from 4 weekly A332 to 4 weekly A343

01 July
IAH (EK211/212) from daily A380 to daily B77W
LAX (EK217/218) new second daily with A380
DUS (EK057/058) from daily B77W to daily A380
MXP (EK091/092) from daily B77W to daily A380
BEY (EK953/954) from daily B77L to daily B77W

01 August
PER (EK424/425) from daily B77W to daily A380
CMB (EK648/649) new fifth daily with B77W
BAH (EK835/836) from daily A332 to daily B77W
BAH (EK839/840) from daily A332 to daily B77W

01 September
DFW (EK221/222) from daily B77W to daily A380

01 October
CCU (EK570/571) from daily B772 to daily B77W

[Firstaid]

Has there been any hints at a third daily flight to glasgow?

[VickersVicount]

With growth rates tailing off, current empty seats and the other two carriers with over capacity by >20 % at EDI, I cant see that happening any time soon, unless it was purely for cargo.

[sf01]

I could see it happening by next summer. Business class is full the majority of the time and lots of cargo still in the belly. If an A380 was to come instead of a third daily then that would attract potential EDI customers for Etihad and Qatar if the price was right because people wouldn't mind paying another Ł20 to go on the A380 apposed to a A330.

A factor for those choosing EDI at the moment could be that those are both morning flight to so people might want to leave earlier and arrive at the destination a bit earlier.

[Firstaid]

The January passenger numbers article for Glasgow did say that there had been an increase in demand for the Dubai route so if it is large enough then they may look to increase.

After all Birmingham got a third daily flight when it's Dubai numbers were around 41000 pax per month and Glasgow is around 38000 pax at the moment so hopefully a third flight may be introduced soon

[sf01]

You also have to remember that Birmigham had more seats to sell than Glasgow. They had a two class cabin with 427 seats and Glasgow had a three class with 360 seats.

[OltonPete]

BHX-GLA

Firstaid

The third BHX-DXB was announced on 22 December 2014 and at the time the latest full month figure was November 2014 which was 45891 an average of 382 passengers per flight or 89% load factor (2 class are now 42/386).

Glasgow hasn't even reached 40000 but I suppose that is a bit unfair as it mostly 3 class aircraft and the maximum number of seats is around 44640 using 360 seats (there are/were a few 364 seat aircraft in the fleet as well as several 354's).

The BHX third service has been a slow burner other than school holiday periods when they could fill 3 x 380's but it will be interesting to see if they go for the 380 first at Glasgow on the lunchtime but it can come at a cost - BHX is rebuilding its double airbridge to make it a double decker triple airbridge ŁŁŁ.

Pete

[VickersVicount]

agreed, nothing to see here, and not for a few years from reasons mentioned above.

[Firstaid]

Fair enough I got my figures wrong but we can always hope that things pick up as a third daily flight would certainly help Glasgow close the lead that Edinburgh has gained these last few years.

[chaps1954]

Manchester is now doing 80,000 with 1 3 class B777 a 3 class seat A380
and a seat 2 class A380 and they are still looking as an extra flight
will be required in short time

Ian

[Geekie]

After all Birmingham got a third daily flight when it's Dubai numbers were around 41000 pax per month and Glasgow is around 38000 pax at the moment so hopefully a third flight may be introduced soon

Bodes well for a second daily flight at NCL - currently on 19000pax per month.

[Seljuk22]

Emirates will not launch the world longest route to Panama-City. New daily flights to Yangon-Hanoi will be launched in August and VIE will see the A380 from July.
A new business-class seat will be unveiled at the ITB in Berlin next week.

27 March
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ATH (EK105/106) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
LHR (EK031/032) new sixth daily with B77W
MNL (EK336/337) new 4 weekly 2-class B77W
SIN (EK352/353) from daily B773 to daily B77W
FCO (EK099/100) from daily B773 to daily B77W
IKA (EK979/980) from daily B773 to daily B77W
DMM (EK823/824) from daily A332 to daily B77W
CAI (EK925/926) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly B77W
SAW (EK119/120) from daily A332 to daily B773
ADD (EK723/724) from daily A332 to daily B773
DEL (EK516/517) from daily EQV to daily B773
BLR (EK568/569) from daily B77W to daily B773
MED (EK807/808) from 4 weekly A332 to 4 weekly B773
BOM (EK508/509) from daily B772 to daily B77L
DAC (EK586/587) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A332

30 March
NEW: CEB CRK (EK338) new daily triangular route with 2-class B77W

01 May
TPE (EK366/367) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
DAC (EK586/587) from daily 2-class A332 to daily 2-class B77W
PRG (EK139/140) from daily B77W to daily A380
CMB (EK654/655) from 6 weekly B773 to 6 weekly B77W
NBO (EK721/722) from daily B773 to daily B77W
ADD (EK723/724) from daily B773 to daily B77W
RUH (EK815/816) from daily A332 to daily B77W
EBB (EK729/730) from daily A343 to daily B773

03 May
NEW: INC CGO (EK326/327) new four weekly with B77L

08 May - 30 September
BNE (EK432/433) from one stop via SIN to nonstop daily B77W

01 June
LHR (EK031/032) from daily B77W to daily A380
MUC (EK053/054) from daily B77W to daily A380
BCN (EK187/188) from daily B77W to daily A380
GVA (EK083/084) new second daily with B77W
ALG (EK757/758) from 5 weekly B773 to 5 weekly B77W
TUN MLA (EK749) from 5 weekly A343 to 5 weekly B773
LCA MLA (EK109/110) from 2 weekly A343 to 2 weekly B77W
SKT (EK620/621) from daily A332 to daily A343
KRT (EK733/734) from 4 weekly A332 to 4 weekly A343

01 July
IAH (EK211/212) from daily A380 to daily B77W
LAX (EK217/218) new second daily with A380
DUS (EK057/058) from daily B77W to daily A380
MXP (EK091/092) from daily B77W to daily A380
VIE (EK127/128) from daily B77W to daily A380
BEY (EK953/954) from daily B77L to daily B77W

01 August
PER (EK424/425) from daily B77W to daily A380
CMB (EK648/649) new fifth daily with B77W
BAH (EK835/836) from daily A332 to daily B77W
BAH (EK839/840) from daily A332 to daily B77W

03 August
NEW: RGN HAN (EK388/389) new daily with B77W

01 September
DFW (EK221/222) from daily B77W to daily A380
SKT (EK620/621) from daily A343 to daily B77W

01 October
CCU (EK570/571) from daily B772 to daily B77W

30 October
RGN HAN (EK388/389) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
SKT (EK620/621) from daily B77W to 4 weekly A332
TUN (EK747/748) two additional weekly services with B773

01 December
KBL (EK640/641) from daily A343 to daily B77W
BEY (EK955/956) from daily A343 to daily B77W

[AvGeek1]

I think that it's good that they didn't go ahead with Panama City as I think this was quite a pointless ultra long haul flight. I think Auckland definately made more sense. I think that Emirates should concentrate on increase frequency on existing routes and also be adding more routes to Europe & Asia.

Are there any routes that Emirates should really be operating that would be successful and realistic?

[EK77WNCL]

I would say Kathmandu, Detroit, Mexico City and maybe Helsinki are all destinations that would serve Emirates well and seem strange that they don't fly there yet

[Seljuk22]

Right now EK has a lot of work to with the retirement of A332, A343, A345 and B772. A lot of changes but not so much new / additional routes.

HEL should be one of their next destinations in Europe. In the US there might be better options than DTW like PHL, MIA, DEN. Kathmandu was served in the past, flydubai flies there from DXB. Mexico-City flights right now are not possible nonstop. Due to altitude and runway length MEX-DXB need to stop somewhere which is time consuming and costs some money. B77X should do it nonstop once EK receives this aircraft from 2020 onwards.

Also interesting to see how EK will launch new routes in the future as the B77L (266 seats) will be their "smallest" aircraft in a few years. They just have 10 of them which are used for their long-haul flights.

[Logohu]

Emirates is currently lobbying the Swiss Government for 5th freedom rights between ZRH and MEX, so they can launch a DXB-ZRH-MEX service. Whether or not they are successful in their request remains to be seen...

[EK77WNCL]

Could anyone provide a full list of EK's current A340 300 and 777 300 routes (and possibly the end date if applicable, i.e the A343 to KBL ends 01/12/2016)? I'm aiming to get on them this year before they're retired

Thank you very much!

[Una Due Tfc]

I thought Panama was canned because they had the plumbing for the extra fuel tanks on the B77Ls removed and they didn't realise you can't reactivate the tanks after this? And that Auckland is in doubt for the same reason?

[blaggerman]

AKL is already operational.