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Yes, GLA will go double daily from June and introduce First Class Suites for the first time on the route. With over 600 seats a day from GLA and now 400 plus from NCL, it would be complete overkill to launch another Northern route. Would need to be another carrier and Emirates normally fight their ground very well.
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Ref Joe's post, this discussion was done to death a month or so ago, much of it on the Glasgow thread. We all await the THY-Etihad-Qatar announcement once EDI is sold - Cabin Crewe is right IMHO.
However, for 2013, deffo not for this year - negotiations with the new EDI owner then an announcement for a startup for 2013, and lots of taxiway closures over winter 12-13 to stop an A330 sinking like Sullys A320, unless its only TK with minibuses.
Step away from the Emirates, Joe, its not going to happen.
However, for 2013, deffo not for this year - negotiations with the new EDI owner then an announcement for a startup for 2013, and lots of taxiway closures over winter 12-13 to stop an A330 sinking like Sullys A320, unless its only TK with minibuses.
Step away from the Emirates, Joe, its not going to happen.
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I agree tbat EDI is hugely unlikely on the face of it, given the excellent points made above. However Emirates do not behave like a normal commercial entity. They gave MAN a daily A380 and another morning A330, they are putting a B777-300ER into Newcastle, DAILY! The sheer number of A380s coming will release more B777s for growth, and they have just added 90 to the Boeing orderbook. It would be amazing if EDI failed to catch Emirates before 2015 I think.
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Yes very odd non-normal commercial behavior by them. How dare EK give MAN an A380 when they stated that a large number of passengers out of MAN were booking A380 out of LHR. How dare EK add an extra A330 when they have stated that MAN has the largest untapped demand. Shall we compared them to the "rational" behaviour of a certain other airline?
NCL getting a 77W now does surprise me given the relatively light loads but I wonder if this is more cargo-driven.
NCL getting a 77W now does surprise me given the relatively light loads but I wonder if this is more cargo-driven.
NCL getting a 77W now does surprise me given the relatively light loads but I wonder if this is more cargo-driven.
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BHX is about the same with 80% or thereabouts loads on their EK flights, especially since the increase in Mid East capacity at MAN - I agree with Ringwayman, I think EK put the 777 on to cope with cargo loads. Just like BHX, I bet NCL will see also its fair share of 777-200 as well as low density 300's, BHX gets a lot of the latter.
As for EDI, agree with Skipness, am sure it's on EK's radar but certainly not in the next 12 months or so based on capacity increases at GLA and NCL. Look at how well LGW has done in attracting new airlines since being sold (altho they have lost Air Asia X), am sure it will be the same at EDI
Don't hold your breath on TK, as I have said before they went on about going into BHX for 2 years or so before they actually did and put into print in the public domain that were would start GLA flights but these never materialised. Again, EDI is def on the radar but when it actually happens that could be a while too!
As for EDI, agree with Skipness, am sure it's on EK's radar but certainly not in the next 12 months or so based on capacity increases at GLA and NCL. Look at how well LGW has done in attracting new airlines since being sold (altho they have lost Air Asia X), am sure it will be the same at EDI
Don't hold your breath on TK, as I have said before they went on about going into BHX for 2 years or so before they actually did and put into print in the public domain that were would start GLA flights but these never materialised. Again, EDI is def on the radar but when it actually happens that could be a while too!
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It would be amazing if EDI failed to catch Emirates before 2015 I think.
busier airports on it's periphery with thousands of annual pax avoiding a London
stopover, the mind boggles at the effect a competing EDI service would have on them both. Not sure of NCL's ACN/PCN is it higher than EDI's?
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Wind your neck in Rungwayman, you are taking offence where none was meant. No one at Airbus or MAN saw the airport as having A380 operations this early on. This has nothing to do with BA now has it? Do you honestly think Emirates, Qatar and Etihad operate in the same commercial environment as the other long haul carriers at MAN? Hardly!
It would be amazing if EDI didn't catch any competing direct service. Two less busier airports on it's periphery with thousands of annual pax avoiding a London stopover
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Edinburgh is not the obvious place in Scotland for Emirates to expand. There is a more sensible site with a long runway; not too much congestion; available stand space; few people who use the Emirates service from Glasgow are likely to change to it, reducing the danger of dilution of that market:
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And while they are at it why not throw a daily A380 into Newquay, long runway there as well
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I can only see STN as a new passenger + cargo destination for EK in the near future.
LHR will go to 5 daily A380 (less cargo capacity compared to B77W) but what's next for London? LHR and LGW don't have that much slots. STN looks like a good alternative.
Leeds could be working for them as well but don't think it will come before 2020.
LHR will go to 5 daily A380 (less cargo capacity compared to B77W) but what's next for London? LHR and LGW don't have that much slots. STN looks like a good alternative.
Leeds could be working for them as well but don't think it will come before 2020.
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Why do EK allow passengers to book onto flights when they are full. Almost everyday in DUB they are refusing passengers with bookings as the flights are over booked. One day there was 20 passengers refused and recently it was 15, but its constant. You would expect it from low cost carriers but not an airline like EK.
Why do EK allow passengers to book onto flights when they are full. Almost everyday in DUB they are refusing passengers with bookings as the flights are over booked. One day there was 20 passengers refused and recently it was 15, but its constant. You would expect it from low cost carriers but not an airline like EK.
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its standard practice with Full Service airlines to overbook flights by up to 10% normally, they base it on that not everyone shows up for their flights r changes their travel plans last minute which can be the case with business passengers. I don;t know of any loco that overbook but most of the larger airlines do. I know for a fact that EI no longer overbook due to an excessive amount of compo they had to pay out to passengers one year at JFK airport. Its just one of those things and until the B773ER is operating DUB-DXB i would say get used to it cos it will probably happen most days between now July1st. Its just one of those practices that can sometimes save airlines money and sometimes cost them.
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A380's
Not much room this month either for aircraft substitution as I believe they are carrying out wing crack inspections on the A380.
Emirates A380 Operation Changes in March / April 2012 | Airline Route
Heathrow should have been three daily A380's over a month ago and four daily
at the end of this month but one flight has been delayed until May.
Rome was another route affected but I am wondering if Manchester is as
well now as a three class 777 is en route now on EK17 and it is also showing as the B77W tomorrow on EK17.
Monday shows the A380 back on the Manchester route.
Pete
Emirates A380 Operation Changes in March / April 2012 | Airline Route
Heathrow should have been three daily A380's over a month ago and four daily
at the end of this month but one flight has been delayed until May.
Rome was another route affected but I am wondering if Manchester is as
well now as a three class 777 is en route now on EK17 and it is also showing as the B77W tomorrow on EK17.
Monday shows the A380 back on the Manchester route.
Pete