Emirates

[ATNotts]

Any chance of a service to DSA

I sometimes get the impression that some enthusiasts for their local airports have rather more fanciful ambitions than fans of your average 3rd division football club!

[TSR2]

some enthusiasts for their local airports have rather more fanciful ambitions than fans of your average 3rd division football club!

Who would have dreamt that Wigan Athletic would win the FA Cup other than Wigan supporters

[nigel osborne]

Businesstraveller,

We flew to the Maldives with EK via DXB at 10 abreast seating was a bit tight.

Fantastic ICE so many movies etc, but will probably fly Qatar who operate 9 abreast 77Ws next time then a 321.

Nigel

[Mr Mac]

Ok gents lets give this a little more thought. EK are based in Dubai they currently have little problem filling planes from DXB to USA in my experiance,why put a stop in Western Europe now they do not have to ?. If you are suggesting extending current European bound flights to western hemisphere that's is a different matter, but would strongly suggest that legacy carriers who are based here with political clout will stall / block this. However being devilish would suggest a chink in the armour from a suitably "poor" EU country with no large legacy as staging post, and a LOCO feed to it may work. Turkeys do not vote for Christmas so would suggest strong opposition to let EK in on this basis, but EU appears some what fractured at the moment between N/S and E/W so maybe we will see. By the way I am a very regular EK flyer so would not mind at all if this happened, as US bound flights from northern UK very poor compared to east bound carriers !.

Regards
Mr Mac

[78Whiskey]

Anyone know when the possibility of a double daily to DUB may be announced? Loads and cargo seem pretty full on the route.

I assume when it does go x2 daily that a a330/777W will be used. Any chance of it being an a340?

[PhilW1981]

EK is almost fresh out of A340's, another 2 have been retired recently. Would imagine if DUB were to go double daily it would be 777/330.

[LAX_LHR]

DUB would likely be 2xB777 as the A330/A340 are not long for the EK fleet, and very few routes into Europe use the A330/A340 now.

[Seljuk22]

New A380 routes

1st October DXB-BNE-AKL daily
27th October DXB-BKK daily (EK372/373)
2nd December DXB-LAX daily
1st January DXB-ZRH daily
1st January DXB-HKG daily (EK380/381)

[10 DME ARC]

Just to confirm EK380/1 HKG is returning back to A380 after a break of 4 months.

[Seljuk22]

EK380/381 is currently 2 weekly A380 + 5 weekly B77W; from January it will be a daily A380.

IAH and SFO should also see the A380 in 2014.

Due to DXB runway enhancement EK will cancel the following flights from May 2014 til July 2014:
Emirates Outlines Planned May ? July 2014 Service Reduction | Airline Route ? Worldwide Airline Route Updates

[Seljuk22]

1st September
DXB-LUN-HRE from B77W to A343
DXB-CPT (EK772/773) from A343 to B77W

1st January
DXB-WAW from A332 to B773
DXB-KUL (EK344/345) from A332 to B773

15th January
DXB-VIE (EK125/126) from A345 to B77W

Emirates W13 Operation Changes as of 28JUN13 | Airline Route ? Worldwide Airline Route Updates

[ssflyer]

DXB to RGN?

Any thoughts on EK starting a new route to Myanmar to compete with the QR daily flight (increased from 3xweekly) and all the others now flying into Yangon?

[Seljuk22]

After increasing to daily flights QR reduced to 3 weekly A319 again. Seems to be not such a successful route.

EK will link Conakry to its existing Dakar flights from 27th October
Emirates to link Conakry to its Dakar Service | News | Emirates United Arab Emirates

Meanwhile the first of 10 A345 has been stored.

[Seljuk22]

27th October DXB-BKK from 5 to 6 daily
16th December DXB-MRU from 2 daily B773 to daily A380 + daily B773
16th January DXB-KBP new daily A345
1st February DXB-BCN from daily B77W to daily A380
1st February DXB-LYS from 5 weekly A345 to 5 weekly B77L

current fleet:

Passenger
35 x A380
89 x B773ER
12 x B773
3 x B772
6 x B772ER
10 x B77L
4 x A343
9 x A345
23 x A332

Cargo
3 x B74F
8 x B77F

[Seljuk22]

Relating to EK:

Traffic UK-UAE increased by over 350,000 passengers in the first half of this year.

UK airport | UAE airport | Pax 2012 H1 | Pax 2013 H1 | change
Glasgow (GLA) Dubai (DXB) 138,403 182,550 +31.9%
Newcastle (NCL) Dubai (DXB) 77,41 192,417 +19.4%
London Heathrow (LHR) Dubai (DXB) 928,805 1,089,606 +17.3%
Manchester (MAN) Abu Dhabi (AUH) 133,307 154,509 +15.9%
London Gatwick (LGW) Dubai (DXB) 299,972 344,675 +14.9%
London Heathrow (LHR) Abu Dhabi (AUH) 267,604 306,461 +14.5%
Manchester (MAN) Dubai (DXB) 328,865 369,525 +12.4%
Birmingham (BHX) Dubai (DXB) 235,820 236,560 +0.3%

Based on current growth rates, Dubai could even become the leading international destination from the UK as early as 2018.

Passenger numbers up 2.6% on international flights from UK airports in 2013H1; Poland and UAE markets growing fast | anna.aero

[Bartek]

Based on current growth rates, Dubai could even become the leading international destination from the UK as early as 2018.

It's an interesting idea, but in my opinion Emirates would have to look to grow to more UK airports before there is any 'danger' of that being achieved. There is only so much more passenger growth they can get out of the existing six UK airports they fly from.

To give you some idea of the scale of the challenge, the most flown to international destinations from the UK's airport for the calendar year 2012 were:

1. AMSTERDAM 7403338
2. DUBLIN 6874179
3. MALAGA 4289832
4. DUBAI 4222946
5. PALMA DE MALLORCA 4171258
6. ALICANTE 3954048
7. PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE) 3512273
8. TENERIFE (SURREINA SOFIA) 3279187
9. BARCELONA 3198885
10. GENEVA 3099823

Jumping ahead of Malaga may seem realistic in the short term, but EK would have its work cut out to equal AMS and DUB. Let's remember these are massive destinations from the UK with a very healthy spread of airport coverage. If EK looks to diversify a bit in the next few years and add STN, EDI, BRS, CWL, LBA, EMA, BFS etc then maybe, just maybe, they might realise that aim.

[blaggerman]

Originally Posted by Bartek

It's an interesting idea, but in my opinion Emirates would have to look to grow to more UK airports before there is any 'danger' of that being achieved.

Don't forget that BA, Virgin, Brunei, and now Qantas are included in those numbers. Emirates capacity increases plus Qantas will probably take it over 5 million for 2013. Also, as the relentless Middle East monsters continue to gobble long haul traffic from the UK and Ireland they will take transit traffic from those Amsterdam and Dublin numbers.

[Bartek]

Originally Posted by blaggerman

Also, as the relentless Middle East monsters continue to gobble long haul traffic from the UK and Ireland they will take transit traffic from those Amsterdam and Dublin numbers.

I suppose it should also be noted that AMS and DUB are huge destinations from the UK in their own right, and not merely as transit points. Dubai's stature as a destination has grown recently, but even so the city itself is not the massive draw that Amsterdam and Dublin are for UK travellers. Airlines like TK, QR, EY and others will indeed be looking to draw an increased share of long haul traffic from the UK too, and potentially from EK.

[EI-BUD]

Bartek, amazing stats. The UK government and BA should observe the scale of AMS and what KLM have achieved. Should help them put in perspective the risks associated with LHR standing still. Equally to BA et al reference to keeping domestic flying a focus.

If we knew the proportion of those pax on AMS connecting at AMS would be possible to put metric opposite the value of such business if LHR were to capture some of it in future.

Based on knowing the level of connecting pax it might mean that DUB could be the largest destination when transfer pax are stripped out?

EI-BUD

[EI-A330-300]

The connecting traffic at DUB will be nothing compared to AMS. At most 10% would connect at DUB but I expect its below this and closer to 5 or 6%. Would imagine connections from the UK via AMS would be 40 or 50%.