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OK good questions, let's have a look.
Given most of them are LUX bound and lightly fuelled they depart like homesick angels, only the Westbounds are heavy fuelled and they're well airborne before Link K unlike certain Flying Tiger classics or Worldways DC8s I could mention, i.e. Performance is way better today.
Ryanair operate to suit Ryanair not PIK, the aircraft is able to be active all day and fly PIK-abc-def-abc-PIK, leaving PIK early and getting back late. Ryanair win.
APD had an impact and the B738 was too big for the ideal frequency, all at the same time FR was moving to sun routes, hence PIK-STN died a self inflicted death. Ryanair fail.
Their business model has evolved to accomodate more mainline airports with customer friendly facilities. STN wasn't transferred, it was axed and brought back years later from GLA. DUB and LON are city routes and are a better fit for GLA than PIK under this new model. The difference is distance is as near to zero as makes no difference.
Who cares, it's up to them to manage their own commercial relationships.
The key issue you're avoiding is can PIK survive with that terminal as it is, and if so how?
The 747s, at the weights they land at and take-off at, need every metre of that runway.
In winter why do you operate two flights a day with the same aircraft, but different crews when say three aircraft sit at the terminal all day ? Why 1st departure at 0610 ish, last arrival at 11pm ish when two aircraft could be sent out at say 0900 ish, both back at 1600 ish ? The point being tighter hours for terminal opening hence reduced cost and better timings for staff and passengers alike.
Why did you run down the PIK - STN to one mid day return when the suits required a morning return and an evening return and used those flights ?
Why did you transfer the STN and DUB to GLA, with what must be increased cost in fees and increased cost in flight-time / routing.
Was the DUB transfer just to challenge Aer Lingus ?
Was the DUB transfer just to challenge Aer Lingus ?
What do your other Operators think of RYR paying reduced fees if that is the case ?
The key issue you're avoiding is can PIK survive with that terminal as it is, and if so how?
Clydebank maybe 20 quid, Linwood under £10. Prefer PIK? Tell us their resaoning, cos I can't fathom it.
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PIK1341, great response, and actually no one would disagree with the rational behind your questions, and if we had the answers......
however, your thrust concentrates on the airline, and not PIK as an asset. Frankly, the airlines, can, and do, whatever is in their best interest. If PIK figures in that equation, superb, -- note it may well do in the future if there was a step change in transportation. No crystal ball however, so who knows?
However, right now, and for the past decade, it has been a massive drain on finance, regardless who owns it. It is the public purse now, and sorry, with GLA/EDI, in the mix, and the relatively small population in the catchment, it cannot support three large airports. Just the way it is I am afraid.
however, your thrust concentrates on the airline, and not PIK as an asset. Frankly, the airlines, can, and do, whatever is in their best interest. If PIK figures in that equation, superb, -- note it may well do in the future if there was a step change in transportation. No crystal ball however, so who knows?However, right now, and for the past decade, it has been a massive drain on finance, regardless who owns it. It is the public purse now, and sorry, with GLA/EDI, in the mix, and the relatively small population in the catchment, it cannot support three large airports. Just the way it is I am afraid.
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I rarely disagree with S.O.F. (previously S.O.E. - why the change?) but West bound 747 (etc) freighters would be take off weight restricted at GLA (and EDI). The PIK runway is a national asset. It would be criminal if the vain pursuit of pax traffic caused the whole airport to collapse. As has been said above many times, PIK must play to its strengths and stop believing its future lies with passengers.
The PIK runway is a national asset.
PIK's runway is probably a national asset for Scotland, but less so for the UK, with ca. 3000m runways available at MAN, EMA, BHX, STN and LHR it's value for the UK is somewhat less.
Of those 3000m runways, only LHR could be said to be at capacity, and is likely to remain the only one of the list for the foreseeable future.
I rarely disagree with S.O.F. (previously S.O.E. - why the change?) but West bound 747 (etc) freighters would be take off weight restricted at GLA (and EDI).
GLA/EDI aren't in that maindeck freighter market at all.
How much of the Cargolux operation is Westbound and hence fuel heavy? Two flights per week max? So it's less than one handful of flights each week we're talking about here.
Also, Air France is Eastbound only as far as CDG and so off like a rocket, and their main deck freighters are going away soon I understand.
I used to agree with the national asset and boon to the economy argument, but they've lost Lufthansa, Singapore, Atlas, Polar and Cargolux have downsized. Of course most freight travels in the holds of passenger flights nowadays, so PIK is very much an ad-hoc business, which can work, but not the way Stagecoach, Infratil and the current management approach it.
Do they get enough value for money in maintaining two runways for example? BAA sold off the cross runway once before, doing so again closes the airfield for days in winter to a lot of traffic but.....
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Why close a useful runway that takes little to maintain? PIK's Achilles Heel is it's crosswind, 240/250deg's quite a bit of the time, when it's blowing a hoolie from that sort of direction give me 21 every time.
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Winter 2016/17
Ryanair have revealed PIK schedules for Winter 2016/17
New Winter routes:
Barcelona - 3x weekly
Faro - 2x weekly
Malta - 1x weekly
Frequency Increases:
Tenerife-South - 3 to 4x weekly
Total of 38 weekly flights (19 arr. / 19 dep.) compared to 24 this current winter, representing capacity growth of 58%. A nice boost for Prestwick
New Winter routes:
Barcelona - 3x weekly
Faro - 2x weekly
Malta - 1x weekly
Frequency Increases:
Tenerife-South - 3 to 4x weekly
Total of 38 weekly flights (19 arr. / 19 dep.) compared to 24 this current winter, representing capacity growth of 58%. A nice boost for Prestwick
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Ryanair have announced four "new" routes from Glasgow International to Lanzarote, Alicante, Gran Canaria and Malaga. Presumably the routes are transferring from Prestwick. It's really not looking good for Prestwick and if the Malaga route goes then unfortunately I won't have any need to use Prestwick. However, if I am forced to fly from Glasgow I won't necessarily use Ryanair.
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Ryanair have announced four "new" routes from Glasgow International to Lanzarote, Alicante, Gran Canaria and Malaga. Presumably the routes are transferring from Prestwick. It's really not looking good for Prestwick and if the Malaga route goes then unfortunately I won't have any need to use Prestwick. However, if I am forced to fly from Glasgow I won't necessarily use Ryanair.
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Thanks. Last night I tried looking up flights from Prestwick to Malaga for January but I could only see flights until September. The website I read earlier didn't mention anything about the routes operating from both airports so I presumed they were transferring them to Glasgow.
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Trump Glasgow Prestwick Airport
Is Trump keen on Prestwick Airport? (From Carrick Herald)
Scottish Government has ?hands off? relationship with Prestwick Airport - The Scotsman
guess it keeps it in the headlines
Scottish Government has ?hands off? relationship with Prestwick Airport - The Scotsman
guess it keeps it in the headlines
Total of 38 weekly flights (19 arr. / 19 dep.) compared to 24 this current winter, representing capacity growth of 58%. A nice boost for Prestwick
Was 103 inbound flights per week Winter 2009 by way of benchmarking.
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Small steps for a better future???
EXCLUSIVE: New look for Prestwick Airport to be unveiled as Scottish Government agree rebrand - Daily Record
EXCLUSIVE: New look for Prestwick Airport to be unveiled as Scottish Government agree rebrand - Daily Record
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And it is expected the initial roll-out, which will take place across the business over the next two years, will come in at under £30,000.
