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PIA twice a week to Stansted starting 01/08/2006.
Flight details are as follows:
Tuesday 01/08/2006
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PK773 A310 ISB KHI 07:05 09:00
PK773 A310 KHI STN 10:20 15:00
PK774 A310 STN KHI 16:30 04:30
Saturday 05/08/2006
PK 773 A310 KHI STN 10:20 15:00
PK 774 A310 STN KHI 16:30 04:30
Flight details are as follows:
Tuesday 01/08/2006
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PK773 A310 ISB KHI 07:05 09:00
PK773 A310 KHI STN 10:20 15:00
PK774 A310 STN KHI 16:30 04:30
Saturday 05/08/2006
PK 773 A310 KHI STN 10:20 15:00
PK 774 A310 STN KHI 16:30 04:30
Comment in the press today that Michael O'Leary, as Stansted's largest user, is wanting a big public brouhaha about the grossly inflated costs of the second runway. Simplistically he says that the £4bn project should be able to be done for one quarter of that amount, and he resents paying for the gold-plating that has gone into the design.
There are comments about the construction cost estimates which could have come straight from our discussion about them on this thread (above) a few weeks back. Hello Dublin, nice to see you are with us ...... !
Ferrovial, the new BAA owners (or part owners, it is actually a consortium with Ferrovial the largest investor but Singapore Government Investments also have a substantial stake) are a worldwide construction group, their UK arm is the well-known contractor Amey who you will see all over the country, so they know a thing or two about what building work actually costs.
Interestingly O'Leary has also focused on the amount of land being acquired for the project, describing it as far too much and a "land grab" which will be acquired as part of the runway project but then used for commercial development of retail and business parks.
There are comments about the construction cost estimates which could have come straight from our discussion about them on this thread (above) a few weeks back. Hello Dublin, nice to see you are with us ...... !
Ferrovial, the new BAA owners (or part owners, it is actually a consortium with Ferrovial the largest investor but Singapore Government Investments also have a substantial stake) are a worldwide construction group, their UK arm is the well-known contractor Amey who you will see all over the country, so they know a thing or two about what building work actually costs.
Interestingly O'Leary has also focused on the amount of land being acquired for the project, describing it as far too much and a "land grab" which will be acquired as part of the runway project but then used for commercial development of retail and business parks.
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Answer the question!!
I have had a good read through the last few posts and i have found the people asking those who claim to know so much about this all and to say where they are recieving this info on pia flights have not been answered just a list of schedules and flight times, yes all well and good however the point still remains...................... tell us were we can find this info and exactly how is it possible to start flights that no one is advertising. maybe its just me however i think this rumour is going to be a case of 'il have to see it to believe it'. then again always the opporunity for someone to prove me wrong!! thanx
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looks like this forum is living upto its name, as i am sure that this person you know has recieved it from the top im still not won over on this one, the question still remains why is no one advertising this move,surely it would be on the front page of the oh so great stansted life. but even more so the lenght of these flights together with the never ending rise in fuel prices pia is going to need to sell all there seats onboard and quick to make any money on this route,also the longer they leave it the more people will opt to go fom another airport. this rumour sounds as good as me saying concorde is coming back and only at stn!!
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Apart from advertising the new route in a paper that will only go to a minority i.e those people in pakistan or those who are able to get hold of that paper here in england, HOW CAN YOU BUY A TICKET??? No one has actually said beacuse last i knew pia dont do a buy at the door system i would have thought the wonders of the web would have been the best way however still to this day no sign of it on there website.
As much as rusty c would like to see me proved wrong, you have to agree that from the way im looking at it im still very doubtful, no adverts in uk, no advert on website, no corporarte announcement from BAA to welcome pia.............not much to go on. all i can say is i hope none of you are looking to become lawyers!!
As much as rusty c would like to see me proved wrong, you have to agree that from the way im looking at it im still very doubtful, no adverts in uk, no advert on website, no corporarte announcement from BAA to welcome pia.............not much to go on. all i can say is i hope none of you are looking to become lawyers!!
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This is a RUMOUR network though! You do not have to know where these rumours come from!
Perhaps these flights have been advertised in Pakistani papers over here aswell!
Youll find that youre unable to book any PIA flights but domestic flights on their website!
If oyu look at the schedules you'll see tht PK744 Leaves STN (Thats Stansted you know) at 0430pm. Further clicking around on this page shows that this is an a310 as stated before!
Perhaps these flights have been advertised in Pakistani papers over here aswell!
Youll find that youre unable to book any PIA flights but domestic flights on their website!
If oyu look at the schedules you'll see tht PK744 Leaves STN (Thats Stansted you know) at 0430pm. Further clicking around on this page shows that this is an a310 as stated before!
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I am fully aware of the fact of this being a rumour forum however i am just trying to point out that there's rumours that have evidence to back them up and others like this one is more a game of chinese whispers.
And also i think someone should go back to the pia website and have a closer look, the domestic routes are shown on the first box however if you look on the boxes directly below you can find any airport that pia fly to including london but on closer inspection, oh what a surprise its LHR!
Im not being funny but it just doesnt make good business sense to advertise an international product to a minority, how are they going to cover the overheads especially at such short notice??
And also i think someone should go back to the pia website and have a closer look, the domestic routes are shown on the first box however if you look on the boxes directly below you can find any airport that pia fly to including london but on closer inspection, oh what a surprise its LHR!
Im not being funny but it just doesnt make good business sense to advertise an international product to a minority, how are they going to cover the overheads especially at such short notice??
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Originally Posted by xxx5572
looks like this forum is living upto its name, as i am sure that this person you know has recieved it from the top im still not won over on this one, the question still remains why is no one advertising this move,surely it would be on the front page of the oh so great stansted life. but even more so the lenght of these flights together with the never ending rise in fuel prices pia is going to need to sell all there seats onboard and quick to make any money on this route,also the longer they leave it the more people will opt to go fom another airport. this rumour sounds as good as me saying concorde is coming back and only at stn!!
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But did i not just show some evidence?
The webpage shows that a flight from london on either a SAT or TUE will result in a STN departure! Aswell as LHR!
However I do agree on that advertising front. Perhaps theyll do a Zoom and sell them as LHR and then send you a letter of apology saying your flights leaving from STN now!
The webpage shows that a flight from london on either a SAT or TUE will result in a STN departure! Aswell as LHR!
However I do agree on that advertising front. Perhaps theyll do a Zoom and sell them as LHR and then send you a letter of apology saying your flights leaving from STN now!
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Ok well if the evidence is there i just havnt been able to find it myself, i will try and get hold of the Pakistani time though, not sure where.
Dont get me wrong i would like nothing more than to see a big national airline to come to stansted would make a nice change to the ezy & fr masses!! however as agreed if trying to sell a new product or service which is what this is they need to be putting the word out there and that is why im a little doubtful as yet to these flights starting so soon.
any more info anyone has would be great in trying to solve this mystery.
Dont get me wrong i would like nothing more than to see a big national airline to come to stansted would make a nice change to the ezy & fr masses!! however as agreed if trying to sell a new product or service which is what this is they need to be putting the word out there and that is why im a little doubtful as yet to these flights starting so soon.
any more info anyone has would be great in trying to solve this mystery.
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Stansted also has better transport links...
Stansted also has better transport links? To Essex, Northeast & East London maybe. Otherwise, don't make me laugh
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transport links
transport links - it seems your under the impresionthat this means TRAINS AND TRAINS ALONE !
stansted has its own motorway slip road M11 to london and the midlands and the north, a newly built dueled A road to suffolk and norfolk, train station and coach base to most of the uk (national express coaches) I have flown for luton and the transport links need much improvement but this is my point of view
stansted has its own motorway slip road M11 to london and the midlands and the north, a newly built dueled A road to suffolk and norfolk, train station and coach base to most of the uk (national express coaches) I have flown for luton and the transport links need much improvement but this is my point of view
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I know that PIA Management have been at Stansted for meetings about services that will operate, twice weekly as detailed above, from Stansted. The latest is that they will commence on 15th August and that this gives them additional time to sort the marketing out.
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Two weeks to sell in excess of 1000 seats! pretty good going if they manage it
It seems to more of a case that pia management have come to stn to explore the possability of starting a route at a later date, maybe this is how the rumour started
It seems to more of a case that pia management have come to stn to explore the possability of starting a route at a later date, maybe this is how the rumour started