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Thanks for that WHBM,
I wondered how XLA managed to get the 2nd AY aircraft so quickly but your explanation would make sense!
If FJE do not come back to NCL, maye XLA will hold off getting rid of one of the own 757 till next summer to cover winter flying??
I wondered how XLA managed to get the 2nd AY aircraft so quickly but your explanation would make sense!
If FJE do not come back to NCL, maye XLA will hold off getting rid of one of the own 757 till next summer to cover winter flying??
Just to clarify, Finnair (AY) only use their 757s on IT charters (and a few charter-like schedules) with charter-pitch seating, it is quite a different sub-fleet from their trunk services across Europe which they use 321s/320s on, with normal scheduled-type seating, business class, etc. For many years recently Air Scandic in the UK used this spare summer 757 capacity, but they have gone now.
Just like the Canadian charter operators they do summertime transatlantic charters with them to Toronto etc, a market which peaks in the opposite part of the year to their Finnish winter sun holiday business. Actually not just sun, they surprisingly do ski charters to the Alps as well, Salzburg being a particular favourite. Plenty of snow in Finland then, of course, but not a lot of good mountains to go down and very little daylight hours anyway !
Just like the Canadian charter operators they do summertime transatlantic charters with them to Toronto etc, a market which peaks in the opposite part of the year to their Finnish winter sun holiday business. Actually not just sun, they surprisingly do ski charters to the Alps as well, Salzburg being a particular favourite. Plenty of snow in Finland then, of course, but not a lot of good mountains to go down and very little daylight hours anyway !
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The -400 has seem to of suffered more than its fair share. It seems a bit of an odd a/c to base at NCL, considering it has suffered from many restrictions when operating flights out of NCL to Greece etc.
So, the finnair 757 is returning next summer? Just the one or will one be operating for FJE again?
So, the finnair 757 is returning next summer? Just the one or will one be operating for FJE again?
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Transwede,
It does seem an off aircraft BUT it does have good reliability - it is incredible that this aircraft is actually carrying out rescue flights for some of the -800's!
Finnair will be back with 1 A/C (2 if FJE do not return), in addition to an XLA owned aircraft.
It does seem an off aircraft BUT it does have good reliability - it is incredible that this aircraft is actually carrying out rescue flights for some of the -800's!
Finnair will be back with 1 A/C (2 if FJE do not return), in addition to an XLA owned aircraft.
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Originally Posted by DVR6K
The 800s pretty much look after themselves.
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windshear,
From huy,Takin the more northerly route thru ams, turkey, rds (western nicosia after izmir etc and entering T'egypt further east you will get the dct sharm vor routing ,optimistically filed by xl on man /ssh anyway (usually used by outbound traffic, but why ruin a good flight plan with a minor detail like that) ) rather than the current (re-cleared)man route over dba and w727 with the big kink.The tegypt portion of that route is a 600kg saving in fuel alone. Over all it should end up being less or equal to man/ssh track distance.therfore with winglets, blt, 2/4 crew, flap 25 (f limit) bleeds off, manual loadsheeet m/f etc (200kg saving on average), and an era , no problems.Make it a V flight and the aps can be culled to the tune of 118 kg as well. Piece of piss. Add a dayoff payment or two and the sharp pencil brigade will be quein up to fly it.
If you can do a full 4 hr smi man in an non winglet 32 deg f limit 25 flap t/o then 10 degree f limit 25 flap 5.5 (winter jetstream, plus the above) huy shm is no probs in the new kit.
Pissed and off to bed.
From huy,Takin the more northerly route thru ams, turkey, rds (western nicosia after izmir etc and entering T'egypt further east you will get the dct sharm vor routing ,optimistically filed by xl on man /ssh anyway (usually used by outbound traffic, but why ruin a good flight plan with a minor detail like that) ) rather than the current (re-cleared)man route over dba and w727 with the big kink.The tegypt portion of that route is a 600kg saving in fuel alone. Over all it should end up being less or equal to man/ssh track distance.therfore with winglets, blt, 2/4 crew, flap 25 (f limit) bleeds off, manual loadsheeet m/f etc (200kg saving on average), and an era , no problems.Make it a V flight and the aps can be culled to the tune of 118 kg as well. Piece of piss. Add a dayoff payment or two and the sharp pencil brigade will be quein up to fly it.
If you can do a full 4 hr smi man in an non winglet 32 deg f limit 25 flap t/o then 10 degree f limit 25 flap 5.5 (winter jetstream, plus the above) huy shm is no probs in the new kit.
Pissed and off to bed.
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Originally Posted by Britannia
Yes, TF-ELY went tech in Greece and was delayed for about 24 hours. XL brought in the Air Class Airways 737 to fly the Newcastle - Verona flight.
Chris
Chris
I'm assuming TF is Iceland, but I see TF planes so often that I almost find that hard to believe ? Is Iceland the Panama-flag of convenience for aircraft ???
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Changes at Excel
COO/CFO resign from Excel Airways
11 Jul 2006Excel Airways’ COO Steven Tomlinson and CFO Paul Roberts have resigned with immediate effect.
Parent company Avion has appointed Halldor Sigurdarson as CFO.
The Icelandic transport group explained that it was ‘taking steps which will strengthen the management of Excel Airways Group, adding that ‘these changes represent the first stage in that process, as announced in the interim results statement on 30Jun06'
Hope it's good news for those most affected
11 Jul 2006Excel Airways’ COO Steven Tomlinson and CFO Paul Roberts have resigned with immediate effect.
Parent company Avion has appointed Halldor Sigurdarson as CFO.
The Icelandic transport group explained that it was ‘taking steps which will strengthen the management of Excel Airways Group, adding that ‘these changes represent the first stage in that process, as announced in the interim results statement on 30Jun06'
Hope it's good news for those most affected
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FJE will go wherever Excel tell them to - Newcastle, Timbuktu... A 3-year contract means nothing in terms of the location of the aircraft.
Anyway, haven't they been bought by Excel?
Anyway, haven't they been bought by Excel?