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Old 27th Aug 2008, 12:31
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mmm does seem strange, unless they're just withdrawing for the winter season. would like to know more...

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Old 27th Aug 2008, 15:21
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My colleague was just about to ring XL to check the Caribbean for a client next winter when I told him about the fact they wouldn't be operating.

I only knew about it via the posting here, we are yet to hear from XL besides them confirming via telephone when my disbelieving colleague rang them to be told as of 1st Nov they would not be operating.
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 15:22
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There are a few reasons why XL have pulled the routes, one being the B767 (GVKNI) that operates St Kitts etc has come to the end of its lease, and with brand new A332 arriving in time for summer 09 Xl dont want to extend its lease. Another reason is the Caribbean sub XL $xx per pax to ensure a link to the UK is maintained, this agreement has come to an end and with the increase in fuel costs etc has made these flights uneconomical to operate, espeacially as the flights would of had to of been sub-chartered to another airline till A332 arrival. Hopefully XL will return to the Carribean market in the future.
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 15:28
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Hopefully ThomsonFly or Monarch will jump in as the winter routes to the Caribbean should be popular. Certainly a few years back Britannia operated to St Lucia, Barbados & Antigua and flights were always pretty much full. I know there's a credit crunch going on, but surely if you holiday in the Caribbean a credit crunch won't affect you (I did say "surely" before anyone jumps down my neck).

Thomsonfly certainly have a couple of 762's that were destined for Silverjet that they could utilse?
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 15:39
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Our two 762s are off to do the Haj this year, so im sorry but that will be a no no.
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 17:08
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Cant remember where i saw it but there was talk of TCX looking at some of these routes. If they did start them again, that would be full circle after dropping the CKT flights back around 2000/2001.
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 17:49
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XL cancellation

Just had a phone call today from XL cancelling 23 seats I had booked for this December for my wedding and all the lady would tell me that they were cancelling all winter flights, Quote " the company is experiencing some restructure" needless to say the future MRS Flaps up no lights, is not happy
Anybody heard anything???
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 17:58
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Zoom could pick up these routes. They already operate to a few Caribbean destinations from Canada. Subject to aircraft being available in their small fleet.
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 18:00
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I had a brief search on the XL website. The flight from LGW to Bodrum in Nov 08 returned as unavailable, earliest was in Spring 09. Then I tried a flight from BRS to Sharm el Sheik (sp?) and the exact dates weren't available but there were winter flights on offer.

I'd get onto the website and see what you can do.
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 18:02
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It has been reported on another site XL will cease operations on all six of it's caribbean routes, ST.Kitts, Antigua, St.Lucia, Barbados, Grenada and Tobago, from LGW for this coming winter due to adverse market conditions.

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Old 27th Aug 2008, 18:37
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it is correct!!

more links here:


XL to end all Caribbean routes from Gatwick



SKNVibes.com News: XL Airways to End Caribbean Routes
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 20:25
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TCX Winter programme is not showing any additional routes than last year... at the moment!!!
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Old 28th Aug 2008, 15:35
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I doubt Zoom will operate them they have just had two planes impounded at GLA and in Canada for unpaid fees and could seek Bankruptcy protection and are close to pulling in an administator unless a rescue package can be found becausse of the prices of fuel.
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Old 28th Aug 2008, 15:43
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It would appear winter schedule is being stopped from Nov. Roll on summer....
Due to changing market conditions and a review of its route network, XL has decided to cancel its winter Caribbean programme from November 2008. In common with other airlines, XL Airways has experienced significant fuel increases which combined with a downturn in demand on some transatlantic routes has led XL to focus on its profitable long haul Florida services and its core short and medium haul market.
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Old 29th Aug 2008, 00:02
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Have just checked on XLholidays and as you say they do not show anything after November either, but no offical mention of the routes being stopped.

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XL are not Good Communicators, Iv'e heard & Read several incidents where they have said nothing.
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Old 29th Aug 2008, 09:08
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Last winter XL cancelled various routes ex-Luton so that they could make more profitable use of the aircraft on lease. Re-started the routes for summer.
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Old 29th Aug 2008, 09:53
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When does the winter timetable come into operation ?
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Old 29th Aug 2008, 10:53
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Winter start November 1st.
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Old 29th Aug 2008, 21:19
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Pure flights

Gatwick operator fails with 300 abroad

(29 August 2008)
Gatwick-based seat-only operator Pure Flights has failed with 300 UK holidaymakers abroad.

Pure Flights

An ABTA member, the company offered charter flights from several UK airports to destinations in the eastern Mediterranean, including Turkey and Crete. It sold mainly through travel agents.

The Civil Aviation Authority estimates 1,000 customers have advance bookings and will lose their flights.

However, Pure Flights held an Air Tour Operators' Licence and passengers will be fully reimbursed under the ATOL consumer-protection scheme administered by the CAA.

Those due to travel should submit a claim to the CAA at Air Travel Organisers' Licensing | ATOL. The CAA will handle arrangements to fly those overseas home once they have completed their holiday.

Pure Flights had lots of bookings on XL shorthaul flights, so with the canx of the winter programme and the loss of this company buying seats from XL, does anyone have any more information? Can't be coming at a good time to lose business.

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Old 29th Aug 2008, 22:05
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Pure Flights used most charter airlines, their demise won't affect any airline business a great deal. Sad to see another company fail though.
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