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Do you know if these would be connections from Stansted like the GLA, MAN and BHD flights. or direct from Germany. Liverpool from Stansted would be a good route as there is a real lack of flights from London - liverpool apart from VLM!!
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Iam sorry....I do not know this. I am hoping for informations as I have business visits to Ireland, Wales and N England. I hope for news for direct flights from Germany as I use Lufthansa now who are costing much money and have no service for Wales.
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Have you tried Aer Lingus,Ryanair or Germanwings? They have flights from Dublin, Cork, Kerry and Shannon to many German destinations and should be a lot cheaper than Lufthansa. Dublin in particular has flights to most major German airports
Have you tried Aer Lingus,Ryanair or Germanwings? They have flights from Dublin, Cork, Kerry and Shannon to many German destinations and should be a lot cheaper than Lufthansa. Dublin in particular has flights to most major German airports
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Thank all for replies. I will look at opportunity for Ireland flights.
I have used easyjet to Bristol for meetings in Wales. I would be most happy for flight available to Cardiff. I have to use KLM and change in Amsterdam with often some bad delay.
I have used easyjet to Bristol for meetings in Wales. I would be most happy for flight available to Cardiff. I have to use KLM and change in Amsterdam with often some bad delay.
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I guess the problem is that for most destinations Air Berlin needs feed through its STN mini-hub as there will not be sufficient point-to-point demand. If they have to rely on additional domestic traffic from London because their feed from Germany is not sizeable enough to fill those planes (remember that a lot pax from Germany get off at STN for London), this pretty much rules out places such as CWL, BRS or BHX. DUB would be fun as Ryanair certainly would be looking for a nice massacre at Air Berlin's expense. I could imagine, though, that DUB would work for Air Berlin because of the feed from Germany. LPL, hmm, not sure. It would probably cannibalize the MAN route. As for other suggestions, NCL might be an option, also ABZ. Problem is if these markets are large enough for an additional carrier. Remember that BFS and MAN only work because there is no competition. At GLA, where they have to fight against Easyjet, the only use a Fokker 100, and GLA certainly has more appeal to most Germans than ABZ or NCL. One other problem is that Air Belrin is cutting back the routes from the continent, thus reducing the available feed for the STN mini-hub. VIE will be gone soon.
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SWBKCB -
I am not suggesting, I am just contemplating possible options if the STN mini-hub will ever be expanded. As a matter of fact, AB is already competing with Easyjet on GLA-STN and to some extent on BHD-STN (with EZY serving BFS) and seem to be doing OK.
I am not suggesting, I am just contemplating possible options if the STN mini-hub will ever be expanded. As a matter of fact, AB is already competing with Easyjet on GLA-STN and to some extent on BHD-STN (with EZY serving BFS) and seem to be doing OK.
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Well CWL could do with any new German routes, indirect or direct seeing as there are NONE at the moment! MCH used to be very popular a few years back until baby scrapped it so there is plenty of room for growth here.
Thanks Peakp, forgot about Jet2 getting onto the Berlin from Manchester.
Maybe there is a gap for AB/DBA/Fly Nikki on the BaCon/Flybe dropped Vienna route from MAN.
The AB connection via STN or HAM is pretty poor.Austrian were sniffing around the route, but have since backed off.
Maybe there is a gap for AB/DBA/Fly Nikki on the BaCon/Flybe dropped Vienna route from MAN.
The AB connection via STN or HAM is pretty poor.Austrian were sniffing around the route, but have since backed off.
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Air Berlin acquires German airline LTU
March 27, 2007
BERLIN --Germany's Air Berlin PLC said Tuesday it bought Duesseldorf-based airline LTU for euro140 million (US$186 million) in cash to expand the business.
March 27, 2007
BERLIN --Germany's Air Berlin PLC said Tuesday it bought Duesseldorf-based airline LTU for euro140 million (US$186 million) in cash to expand the business.
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Air Berlin steps up its expansion
A little bit more info on this here from bbc news.
M.R.120
German airline Air Berlin has said it will buy charter rival LTU for 140m euros ($187m; £95m).
In a separate deal, Air Berlin also said it was buying a 49% stake in the Swiss operator Belair Airlines.
Following the deals, Air Berlin will be the fourth-biggest airline in terms of European traffic, behind Ryanair, Air France/KLM and Lufthansa.
Air Berlin has been buying rivals after first selling shares to investors in May 2006 to raise money for expansion.
Air Berlin says that LTU will remain independent within the group and that its brand will be retained "in the foreseeable future".
LTU operates 15 medium-haul and 11 long-haul aircraft. It employs 2,244 staff and transported 5.3 million passengers last year.
To help finance the deal, Air Berlin said it would take on between 190m euros and 200m euros of debt.
Belair Airlines is a subsidiary of the Hotelplan Group and currently operates three aircraft.
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German airline Air Berlin has said it will buy charter rival LTU for 140m euros ($187m; £95m).
In a separate deal, Air Berlin also said it was buying a 49% stake in the Swiss operator Belair Airlines.
Following the deals, Air Berlin will be the fourth-biggest airline in terms of European traffic, behind Ryanair, Air France/KLM and Lufthansa.
Air Berlin has been buying rivals after first selling shares to investors in May 2006 to raise money for expansion.
Air Berlin says that LTU will remain independent within the group and that its brand will be retained "in the foreseeable future".
LTU operates 15 medium-haul and 11 long-haul aircraft. It employs 2,244 staff and transported 5.3 million passengers last year.
To help finance the deal, Air Berlin said it would take on between 190m euros and 200m euros of debt.
Belair Airlines is a subsidiary of the Hotelplan Group and currently operates three aircraft.