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Old 6th Jul 2006, 22:41
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Off the top of my head

30/12/06 G-JEDW
22/01/06 both G-JEDT and G-JECH
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Originally Posted by gary4444
There is no need for any LBA vs. DSA comments unless you are insecure about something. Forget about DSA if the start its had hasn't affected your guardedness for LBA. But to say LBA should be like MAN is ludicrous and shows how in touch you are.
14 loop, there have been a good half dozen Flybe diverts due to fog, and two Air Southwests plus others.
Gary4444 dont talk like a plank - I didnt mean LBA should be like MAN in that context - I was simply referring to the catchment area and major area that west yorks has become. Trust me, I am very "in touch".
Quote your FlyBe diverts till the cows come home pal, i couldnt give a stuff about it. By the way, I already admitted that i am insecure about the DSA - LBA situation so stop trying to rub salt in.
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To the above dsa-lba argument,

Why oh why are we getting into a heated debate about these two airports.

As a Leeds lad my loyalties lie with LBA, but surely as a region i.e Yorkshire in its entirety we should be proud of the airports we have?

To dispel any further arguments: Official CAA diversion figures from when DSA opened to commercial traffic in April 2005 ar as follows.

DSA - LBA 0: Unless you count yesterdays Jet2 Ops for Thomson
LBA - DSA 3: 1 A/C x 30/12/05 & 2 x A/C 22/01/06
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 05:40
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Whoa! Cool it guys. Slagging and sniping is once again getting the better of good debate and sense. Keep it going and you will have deletes and/or banning getting the better of 'YOU.'
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Originally Posted by RobT100
Gary4444 dont talk like a plank - I didnt mean LBA should be like MAN in that context - I was simply referring to the catchment area and major area that west yorks has become. Trust me, I am very "in touch".
Quote your FlyBe diverts till the cows come home pal, i couldnt give a stuff about it. By the way, I already admitted that i am insecure about the DSA - LBA situation so stop trying to rub salt in.
I'm not the one who came onto the DSA thread and started slagging the airport and people personally off, do you see me do this on the Leeds thread? If you don't like the airport fair enough stay away from the thread, but your attitude is diabolical towards people you don't know, show the respect you would expect in return as a poster.

As far as I'm concerned there is room for all regional airports, but some people take this a bit too personally.

Leodis asked for figures about Flybe, so keep your nose out.

I never rubbed salt in about "LBA vs. DSA" again thats all of your doing.
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Before this degenerates into an unregal willy waving contest, remember that Peel have taken a huge, but calculated risk in developing DSA, pumping millions of their own cash and a lot of Government and EEC development grants, into the place.
Equally, LBA has had an enormous sum spent on developing the airport, initially with ratepayers cash and over the last 20 years or so, private equity and a lot of luck (like finding a commercially viable coal seam when excavating for the main apron).

Either way, both DSA and LBA are still run by British companies who have spent/risked a lot of their own money in ventures that don't necessarily provide a guaranteed return, even in the best of economic conditions.

They both have provided employment for large numbers of local people and new trade for local businesses, they've also provided career opportunities that otherwise would not have seen the light of day in previously economically depressed areas.

Good luck to them both.
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Old 8th Jul 2006, 09:00
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Flybe pics

Originally Posted by gary4444
Off the top of my head
30/12/06 G-JEDW
22/01/06 both G-JEDT and G-JECH
Just to add to Gary's post here is a few pics taken by Kelvin Coombes on the 22/01/06

http://kelvincoombes5817.fotopic.net/c836414.html

<----- Must feel like this when answering RobT100's replies lol
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Old 8th Jul 2006, 10:56
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I've heard on the grapevine that CATIIIA ILS will be installed at the airport later this year after the new radar has been finished, anyone know anymore?
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Old 11th Jul 2006, 13:56
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Originally Posted by gary4444
I've heard on the grapevine that CATIIIA ILS will be installed at the airport later this year after the new radar has been finished, anyone know anymore?
Aparently so, work is ongoing on the new radar now and the ILS upgrade will take place at the end of the year.

Anyone heard any movements on the Globespan front, there was supposed to be a forthcoming announcement with a Tenerife service this winter
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was the lighting to allow CAT2/3 ops put in before opening?
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Old 12th Jul 2006, 09:12
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No, they have no TDZ, centreline or stopway lighting.
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Old 12th Jul 2006, 09:23
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not going to get much benefit from CAT3 capable ILS then!
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Old 12th Jul 2006, 11:11
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Why is there some unwritten rule stating lighting cannot be installed after opening
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Old 12th Jul 2006, 11:57
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post does not say anything about adding lighting-just the ILS, also adding all the fittings, unless doing runway work at same time, is a major job-better to have done it before opening if that was the plan, looking at major closures to get the work done
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Old 12th Jul 2006, 12:20
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I think most people will agree things have progressed much faster than expected, and an upgrade was something not envisioned for a few years.

Night closures will be needed but that isn't out of the ordinary for runway work.
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Old 12th Jul 2006, 14:21
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Bad news about the M18 link road not being approved for funding straight away, its a good job Peel have a backup plan with the new access road onto site that has been approved by Doncaster Council.
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Old 12th Jul 2006, 18:17
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A straight through road connecting both jct 3 and 4 would be ideal, is that the plan? Sorry i have not kept upto date with the link road.

It would cut journeys from the rest of the region quite considerably, i could probably get there in 40 mins from west hull!
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HI guys, a question for you Doncaster locals: Does any private flying take place from Finningley,( sorry, "Sheffield/ Doncaster/Robin Hood /Sherwood Forest, or whatever...) and has the reopening of Finningley placed any constraints on local GA airfields, eg Netherthorpe, Sandtoft, and others? Not up to speed with GA in your part of the World. ( exile hoping to return to Gods Wonderful County soon...)

Presumably the death knell for Sheffield City.

Just wondered because I heard a comment recently that Peel dont exactly encourage GA anymore at Blackpool.

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North Derbyshire's forgotten airfield.
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Old 16th Jul 2006, 08:02
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EGCA.... Peel have nothing to do with Blackpool.... try Liverpool. Go through the archives for the answers to your other queries as they have been discussed at great length already.
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Old 16th Jul 2006, 12:27
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EGCA

GA traffic is around everyday at DSA along with military aircraft. Its not actively encouraged and they are not allowed to base at the airport but they do appear once or twice a day. Movement lists can be found on the Yahoo DSA group, egcn website and various other sites if you are interested in what comes in.

The local GA fields are fairly busy and as you would expect there are some misunderstandings between all parties concerned in the local approach airspace, as there is no controlled airspace between the numerous fields in the close area.
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