Aurigny Air Services

[five zero by ortac]

BWDB is not owned by Aurigny, it is leased. COBO & VZON were purchased.

[BOHEuropean]

re: G-BWDB

@Jerbourg, thanks for the update! Appreciate the response.

@five zero by ortac, according to the CAA it is owned by Aurigny - see below - it would be listed as "Chartered" if it was leased.

Ownership Status: Owned
Registered Owners: AURIGNY AIR SERVICES LTD
STATES AIRPORT, PLANQUE LANE
FOREST
GUERNSEY
GY8 0DT

Aircraft operated by AOC Holder: AURIGNY AIR SERVICES LTD

[Hermite]

G-LGIS

@BOHEuropean: I spotted G-LGIS on the webcam a couple of days ago - looked to be returning to the hangar area down the taxiway. It didn't show up as having flown anywhere on FR24, but maybe a quick flight didn't get captured for some reason.

[Jerbourg]

Confirmed - another 72 will be joining the fleet after DB departs, when however is another matter.

[Hermite]

G-LGIS

G-LGIS flew to Oberpfaffenhofen yesterday, presumably as part of the corrosion related maintenance. Maybe this will see IS back in service before too long.

[Hermite]

Alderney flight costs

I keep reading comments elsewhere that Aurigny's flights to Alderney are expensive (they vary between £46 and £61 for a one way journey), and started to wonder whether this really was the case or whether the prices that the large lccs manage to charge, presumably with subsidies, just make it seem that the prices are way too high. I have no inside information to help me with this, but managed to find some of the costs that the airline will have to pay when running the service on the internet.

Assuming 12 passengers per flight GCI/ACI:

ACI short haul landing / taking off £6 per tonne or part thereof .... £42 .... per passenger £3.50
ACI per passenger £2.30.
ACI per passenger security £2.19
ACI parking £27.67 .... per passenger ... £2.30

GCI short haul landing / taking off £5.16 per tonne or part thereof .... £36.12 .... per passenger £3.01
GCI per passenger £0.90.
GCI per passenger security £2.5
GCI parking £28.16 .... per passenger ... £2.34

Pilots: Assume 4 pilots per Dornier @£55k p.a., and 10 flights per day .... £60 per flight ... £5 per passenger (a guess)
Similar amount for ground handling .... £5 per passenger (a guess)

Insurance - £40,000 pa ... £1 per person / flight

Fuel .... £22.50 ... £1.87 per passenger

Total so far .... £31.01 per passenger per flight.

Maintenance ????

Depreciation of aircraft ????

Ticketing, office costs, etc ????

Any thoughts and/or additions to my rough figures?

[Feet on ground]

It will take more than 4 pilots to run an aircraft 7 days a week, it would take four pilots (2 people in each crew, 1 crew for the morning, one for the afternoon) flying each day and they can probably only work 5 days a week, then there is standby cover in case of sickness, then training and annual leave. Probably 8-10 pilots per aircraft. Say 8 at average £45k salary = £360k annually or £1000 per day, if each aircraft does 10 flights a day then the crew for each flight costs about £100, or each or £8.33 per passenger.

Just guesses, but I think closer to reality than £5.

Aircraft cost 7m euros @ 8% interest = 560,000 euros per year plus depreciation of 10% makes 700,000 per year. So interest and depreciation 1,260,000 euros per year convert to £ =1, 070,000 divided by 365 = £2931 per day, or £293 per flight, or £8.42 per passenger.

Your fuel cost looks very low.

Ticket office costs: No idea

Travel agent costs?

Booking system costs?

Compensation and hotels etc during fog?

Airline overheads

Navigation costs

More cost info here

http://compair.aviationresearch.com/...&document_id=3

[cobopete]

'New ATR"

Guernsey Airport Photography has pic of GBWDB replacement at GCI.

[Hermite]

I can't see a pic of OY-RUB but there is a pic of G-BWDB with its new registration of HB-ALQ. I wonder when a proper replacement will arrive - the chartered a/c is older than the one they have just sold.

[cobopete]

Sorry

I'd not considered the possibility that it was WDB reregistered on her way out...............we'll just have to wait and see what the replacement is.........a tad newer I hope!

[Hermite]

Ownership

All of the Aurigny a/c (including G-JOEY) are showing on GINFO as having a potential change of registered ownership in progress. I wonder what is going on.

[Jerbourg]

Maybe they are being 'sold' to a holding/leasing company & being leased back to GR?


ATR equipment is being used on the GCI-BCN next year I hear...

[hapzim]

2 reg AOC ?

[Jerbourg]

I don't think 2 reg allows commercial airline ops.

[Hermite]

And in any case wouldn't involve a change in ownership.

[kar42]

Might be something to do with the £300m States of Guernsey Bond issue - refinancing of Goverment owned assets such as Aurigny?

[hapzim]

2 reg now good for AOC's

[radiosutch]

Today

Are there any Aurigny staff here on PPRuNe ?
I heard something about an email today to staff. Anything of interest ?
Maybe nothing.
Related to the huge losses reported today?

[HeartyMeatballs]

You mean the £4,600,000 losses?

[Hermite]

G-LGIS and G-SAYE

It is reported in the Guernsey Press that a composite a/c is to be made up from the two second hand Aurigny Dorniers (G-SAYE and G-LGIS). I wonder what is behind this? G-LGIS went to Oberpfaffenhofen on 3 September and hasn't returned and G-SAYE hasn't been in service since I think 4 September. G-SAYE isn't really suitable for Aurigny as it can't take a full passenger load with their luggage as a Do228-200 (500 kg lower MTOW than G-LGIS and 700 kg lower than G-OAUR), so maybe it does make sense to use the best bits of both a/c to make a single one. If they are doing this, I'm surprised that G-SAYE hasn't also gone to Oberpfaffenhofen.