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Old 14th Aug 2013, 19:51
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Blue operate from JER to AMs & offer a connection from GCI.
Aurigny tried AMS years ago with SF340's, I doubt they would return.
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 17:48
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Doesn't make a lot of sense to me - Aurigny buying a 195. Paid for 100% by the Guernsey taxpayer, buying (not leasing) a single aircraft jet "fleet" using a very niche 195 with debatable resale value on a 40 min route from a shortish runway.

They could have added another horrible ATR, however the Q400 is the perfect aircraft.

Also from March next year a monopoly so fares will rocket - Easyjet are taking over the Jersey slots but Guernsey gets to keep "the islands favourite airline" yeh right.
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 19:49
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Paid for 100% by the Guernsey taxpayer
As far as I know the loan will be guaranteed upon States' assets but not paid for by the States - Aurigny will (as has been happening with the ATRs) pay back the full amount.

They could have added another horrible ATR
Not sure what makes the -500s so horrible; for me the experience on them and the Q400 seems very similar.

Also from March next year a monopoly so fares will rocket
The point of acquiring a larger aircraft is to guarantee Guernsey's link to Gatwick and to provide enough seats to satiate the demand. In light of this raising fares would be odd and I gather the States are working to ensure this won't happen.
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 21:37
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The fact is that they are a loss making airline without a viable commercial strategy so they may pay back the aircraft loans but the tax payer funds the overall losses and the jet will probably worsen the financial situation.
That is why i think the fares will go up once Flybe leave the LGW route.
Time will tell
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Old 1st Nov 2013, 18:53
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Dornier 228

Aurigny are looking to have a Dornier 228 (a possible replacement type for the Trislander) on a 2 week wet-lease basis from 11th November. The aim is to try out the aircraft in the operation, see how it likes Alderney weather and to gauge its overall suitability.
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Old 10th Nov 2013, 17:45
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Dornier 228 CS-TGG arrives tomorrow & will be trialed on the airlines GCI-JER/ACI & BRS routes. Would be good to see it on the ACI-SOU route too.
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Old 10th Nov 2013, 20:29
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Dornier 228

An interesting development, so they are finally getting serious about replacing the tri's! Guess I would prefer the 228 to the Twotter.
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Old 10th Nov 2013, 21:30
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Why are they trialling it on the BRS? Are the loads that bad to warrant such a cut in capacity?
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Old 13th Nov 2013, 21:42
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BRS loads have been low - has been flown by Trislanders (once by two in formation, apparently) in the past but it's an awfully long way at 130kts/110dB.

The Dornier flew its first ACI-SOU today. Apparently did so in under 30mins and the lady who runs the hotdog van in Alderney has already nicknamed it Dory. Meanwhile at Anglos:

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Old 14th Nov 2013, 07:16
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Well it carry's on the tradition of having ugly aircraft on the fleet.
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 08:18
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Faster aircraft, slightly higher capacity, cheaper fuel, cheaper maint. No increase in fire category? Sounds like a win win?
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 08:59
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But doesn't it require a two cockpit crew? I seem to remember that the single-crew operation of the Tris was always given as one the reasons why it was such an attractive airplane despite its other shortcomings - or am I mixing up things?

How is, by the way, the performance of the D228-200 out of ACI? If there are issues, an alternative would be the slightly smaller D228-100, although I don't think that RUAG offers them as new aircraft and the number of used ones on the market will be very limited.
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 10:09
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Happy days when the Embraer 195's arrive
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 14:35
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228-202K no issues for performance out of ACI full load to Southampton. If Aurigny get one its the 202K that's licenced for PT use in UK the 200 is not. Suckling started with a 200 G-BMMR if my memory was right but had to have it converted. G-RGDT was also converted from a 200. Some of the issues that will have to be looked at will be fuel supply in ACI and the need for Anglo to get the type on there 145. At AW we run up against the need for a hangar visit every 100 hours which was a trip to Fairoaks as Mann aviation would not come down to Wales to do a 100hr check.
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 15:26
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Does the 200 allow for conversion to stretcher to replace seating? For medevac?
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 15:54
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Yes there is a medevac fitment available. Also I got my versions mixed up for 200 read 201 conversion to 202K was the addition of the lower tail strakes.
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 18:52
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Originally Posted by Malthouse View Post
Faster aircraft, slightly higher capacity, cheaper fuel, cheaper maint. No increase in fire category? Sounds like a win win?
Just the small matter of a high purchase price - but then again, it appears money is no object in aviation-related matters in that part of the world
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 19:26
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There are no two ways about it, the Trislander fleet is dwindling.

So what is a company to do?
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 19:45
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Cyrano, with some rescheduling and not having one on permanent maintenance there could be a reduction in fleet size. Although there are not many around leasing in older airframes may reduce the cost. But to counter this is the requirement for two crew. What would be the best replacement for a Trislander sorry to say but another Trislander. I believe that the limiting part is the main spar but a Defender wing is the same as a Tris. Maybe we need to start the save Joey campaign!.....
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 19:57
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The campaign is underway...

https://www.facebook.com/james.olliv...lander?fref=ts
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