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Would it not be difficult for BA to do a deal like that when they report their fleet and committed orders/options to shareholders every quarter?
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Mark,
Isn't it tough to know what is agreed in paneled rooms between the barons of aviation and aircraft manufacturers? No that I would follow the conspiracy theorists too closely mind you....
I think if BA wanted to secure an order or options around a theme, there is enough (anecdotal) evidence out there to make it a reasonably safe bet for us to assume that to be the case.
just an opinion...
Isn't it tough to know what is agreed in paneled rooms between the barons of aviation and aircraft manufacturers? No that I would follow the conspiracy theorists too closely mind you....
I think if BA wanted to secure an order or options around a theme, there is enough (anecdotal) evidence out there to make it a reasonably safe bet for us to assume that to be the case.
just an opinion...
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Heard a rumour that BA are indeed buying 777-300F's to help them cope with the delayed baggage at LHR. I shouldn't joke really as I am flying to ABZ with them tomorrow for a weekend!
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BA & London LGW & LCY
I think this order is only going to be for widebodies and it will be a case of A380s/A350s -v- 748s/773ERs/787s. As you point out, BA is going to drive an extremely hard bargain.
Whether or not there will be any replacements for the RJ100s (which were not included in the Flybe contract), depends on how routes out of LCY do. Even then, the A318 might not be the ideal choice.
Personally, I see BA retreating to be a Heathrow based airline over the next few years, even leaving LGW - with limited service being operated by GB Airways.
Whether or not there will be any replacements for the RJ100s (which were not included in the Flybe contract), depends on how routes out of LCY do. Even then, the A318 might not be the ideal choice.
Personally, I see BA retreating to be a Heathrow based airline over the next few years, even leaving LGW - with limited service being operated by GB Airways.
Personally, I can see BA sticking it out at LCY as it has a limiting factor re size and scope for operations( hence can be sheltered from competition, hence high fares).. interestingly did anyone read the article LCY plan for growth?
http://www.uk-airport-news.info/lond...ews-030107.htm
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Aircraft rivals vie for £15bn as BA gets out its wallet
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BA to spend £1 billion a year on new aircraft over next 15 years
According to The Times (January 18)
"The massive order for up to 135 long-haul aircraft, which BA hopes to announce in about three months, has triggered an aggressive bidding war between Boeing, of the US, and Airbus, its European rival. The Franco-German aircraft manufacturer is understood to be offering substantial discounts on the list prices of its airliners to cover the cost of retraining BA pilots and engineers."
"The massive order for up to 135 long-haul aircraft, which BA hopes to announce in about three months, has triggered an aggressive bidding war between Boeing, of the US, and Airbus, its European rival. The Franco-German aircraft manufacturer is understood to be offering substantial discounts on the list prices of its airliners to cover the cost of retraining BA pilots and engineers."
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135 aircraft?
57 744s, 45 772s, and 21 767s I think...that gives a current WB fleet of 122 aircraft...
...so BA are looking to replace them all and add a little growth?
I suppose in 15 years time, the last 772s and 744s will be getting near retirement time.
My own guess is that we'll see 748s, 773s and 789/10s in the mix, although I can't help thinking that Airbus will break the bank to get this one...maybe A330s, A350s and a few A380s will be the order of the day. The only problem for Airbus is that they can't offer anything competitive in the 747 sector...the 346 is a dead duck and the 380 too big to replace all the 744s...
57 744s, 45 772s, and 21 767s I think...that gives a current WB fleet of 122 aircraft...
...so BA are looking to replace them all and add a little growth?
I suppose in 15 years time, the last 772s and 744s will be getting near retirement time.
My own guess is that we'll see 748s, 773s and 789/10s in the mix, although I can't help thinking that Airbus will break the bank to get this one...maybe A330s, A350s and a few A380s will be the order of the day. The only problem for Airbus is that they can't offer anything competitive in the 747 sector...the 346 is a dead duck and the 380 too big to replace all the 744s...
BA Ground Staff Threaten Strike
Here we go again:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/...es/6312915.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/...es/6312915.stm
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The ballot over whether to accept the companies pension off hasn't even taken place yet.
I think the title of this thread is very misleading - does the BBC have nothing better to report?
I think the title of this thread is very misleading - does the BBC have nothing better to report?
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There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about the pensions, exactly what are ground staff unhappy about?
It is all fair and the reason aircrew have a higher pensionable salary is all to do with the fact that retirment has gone from 55 to 65, a 10 year increase as opposed to just 5 for ground staff. Please can someone clarify what the issue is here.
It is all fair and the reason aircrew have a higher pensionable salary is all to do with the fact that retirment has gone from 55 to 65, a 10 year increase as opposed to just 5 for ground staff. Please can someone clarify what the issue is here.
Here we go again:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/...es/6312915.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/...es/6312915.stm
Controversial, moi?
The ground staff will not be led into strike action by the GMB. It is posturing and they have reasons for their posturing.
The vote is on acceptance or otherwise of the pension proposals not whether or not to strike.
The vote is on acceptance or otherwise of the pension proposals not whether or not to strike.
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Are BA LGW turning into a Ryanair wannabe? I notice that their LGW-AMS flights have started using the locost H gates at Schiphol, rather than the regular D gates (the LHR flights remain on 'D').