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Not that anything Nick Clegg backs can be accepted as anything more than lip service. As said, it's doubtful that this means anything for the airport, as an airport, that's not where it's value lies....
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New Notam issued today. any ideas?
C1364/13 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QFAAP/IV/B/A/000/999/
A) EGBE B) 1303251900 C) 1306202359
D) MON-FRI 1900-2359
E) AD STRICTLY PPR, 24 HOUR NOTICE REQUIRED
C1364/13 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QFAAP/IV/B/A/000/999/
A) EGBE B) 1303251900 C) 1306202359
D) MON-FRI 1900-2359
E) AD STRICTLY PPR, 24 HOUR NOTICE REQUIRED
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I'd suggest that the aerodrome published operating hours are until 1900 but they will extend until midnight, for a fee, if given 24 hours notice.
Right ... back to designing rockets
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Freight Flights.....
Will this then affect there 2 freight flights?
NPT ATP EHBK-EGBE-EIDW. Arrives 2230z. Departs 0100z.
EXT 360 EDDF-EGBE-EDDF. Arrives 2300z. Departs 0155z.
NPT ATP EHBK-EGBE-EIDW. Arrives 2230z. Departs 0100z.
EXT 360 EDDF-EGBE-EDDF. Arrives 2300z. Departs 0155z.
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I would suggest that the NOTAM means what it says. That between the hours specified, prior notice will need to be given for movements. It has no implications for scheduled traffic which by definition will have been notified in advance and it does not mean extension fees for anybody because the airport is open during those hours as previously.
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Leofric.
So why have the Notam for aircraft to give 24hrs notice to come in between 2200z-2359z. When the airport is fully operational as 2 aircraft arrive between 2200z-2230z. I Think these flights are Mon-Fri. But might only operate 4 nights during the week.
Im sorry but that just does not make business sense to me.
So why have the Notam for aircraft to give 24hrs notice to come in between 2200z-2359z. When the airport is fully operational as 2 aircraft arrive between 2200z-2230z. I Think these flights are Mon-Fri. But might only operate 4 nights during the week.
Im sorry but that just does not make business sense to me.
I read it that the airport will be open but as the RFFS staff will also be conducting aircraft loading, they won't be able to cope with any movements over and above the planned arrivals and departures. You therefore need PPR for any additional movements so that the airport can staff up accordingly, rather than just turning up and expecting full RFFS to be available for your movement?
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The RFFS staff don't do any of the loading of the two scheduled flights(may do ad-hoc if they ever get any).
Do however do the security etc i think for the flights, so obviously short of RFFS staff, was a random closure last week of the whole airfield for 30 minutes here, and 30 minutes there.
Pretty much how the beginning of the end started for the previous iteration.
Do however do the security etc i think for the flights, so obviously short of RFFS staff, was a random closure last week of the whole airfield for 30 minutes here, and 30 minutes there.
Pretty much how the beginning of the end started for the previous iteration.
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Not "obviously short of RFFS staff". The so called "random closures" were nothing to do with RFFS but due to controller sickness. Only having one controller on duty meant the airport had to close while statutory breaks were taken.
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The "obviously short of RFFS staff" was referring to the current notam, where they can't accept any ad-hoc movements during those times because they are too busy doing security for the two flights that are already scheduled.
Maybe "short of RFFS staff" the wrong phrase.
How about "Can't afford to employ security staff due to lack of worthwhile movements,so have to use firemen to do it"?
Maybe "short of RFFS staff" the wrong phrase.
How about "Can't afford to employ security staff due to lack of worthwhile movements,so have to use firemen to do it"?
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The current notam does not say "they can't accept any ad-hoc movements during those times". It merely says that they want to know in advance when movements will happen. There has been no change in the duties done be RFFS, no change in the RFFS category and no failure to provide the declared category.
For the record Coventry has accepted in the late evening/early morning at least three flights re-routed from Birmingham (due to night closure) and at least one diversion from East Midlands in the last two or three weeks.
For the record Coventry has accepted in the late evening/early morning at least three flights re-routed from Birmingham (due to night closure) and at least one diversion from East Midlands in the last two or three weeks.
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Indeed they have Leofric(though of course before the notam, as these flights definitely didn't have 24 hours notice, as do very few ad-hoc flights at all).
Interesting that you confirm that the only ad-hoc cargo flights with non-based aircraft in the last couple of weeks( a mighty three), were only in Coventry by default anyway, and the diversion from EMA was a CVT based ATP that had nobody to off-load it.
Interesting that you confirm that the only ad-hoc cargo flights with non-based aircraft in the last couple of weeks( a mighty three), were only in Coventry by default anyway, and the diversion from EMA was a CVT based ATP that had nobody to off-load it.
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May be something to do with 2 more Firefighters leaving, but no- one to replace them ? Heard they are giving a Firefighter ticket to the guy that brushes the grass in his tractor all day? Not sure if he'd meet the response times though??
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Due to an unforeseen accident in 2007 volleyball has not taken place for some time .....regards RFFS carrying out other duties this is nothing new for any airport RFFS of a lower cat and certainly not new at CVT
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That's very true mu-meter man, however it doesn't usually mean that they can't accept any other flights without 24 hours notice because they don't have the fire-cover available at short-notice because they are doing their secondary duties though.
That is something new at CVT airport.
That is something new at CVT airport.
Last edited by JennyB; 28th Mar 2013 at 15:31.
