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It would appear that Sir Peter is moving some of his businesses from elsewhere to CVT. We have new neighbours. They have moved with their (Sir Peter Rigby owned) company from Cranfield. I guess he is consolidating around the airport.
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be free Monarch are adding more planes and taking a lot of the old Baby routes.Think there are only 2 not covered for next summer.KLM add another rotation and increase aircraft size to cover AMS .
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No they wouldn't! Ask Thomson...............................
Of course, I am assuming that the airport would charge a handling fee which was sufficient enough to give them a margin. Now we know that not all airports do that, and we also know that the previous Coughco guys halved the fees in a desperate bid to attract custom.
I am giving Sir Peter enough credit to assume that he wouldn't repeat either of those mistakes.
I look forward to supporting Steakout. Coventry must survive. It deserves to survive.
I want to see my local airport survive too, but it is only of direct use to me if it starts operating passenger flights again. I don't hold out much hope of this happening, especially as the one long shot scenario that might have bagged a base deal is not showing any sign of materialising.
However, the airport is not there to provide an urban status symbol for the city fathers. It is there to turn a profit for its owners, or be turned into something else, subject to the small matter of getting that something else past the village fathers at WDC.
That, my friends, is going to be way harder than attracting a new airline!
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Has anybody on here ever been in a meeting with an airline and seeing thier requirements? CVT will not be able to meet the standards required without investing massive massive amounts of money, and that if the council even allowed them to build anything.. The airport will never grow to more than it is now its a fact! Easy are going to BHX and the tender has gone out to 3 handling agents over there (well 2 now as one didnt make the grade) CVT will jut stay as a little GA airfield if anything. Im sorry to say it, id be supprised if its stilll here in 12 months time...prob make more money by selling all the scrap off...
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..........subject to the small matter of getting that something else past the village fathers at WDC. That, my friends, is going to be way harder than attracting a new airline!
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That is so true. Warwick District Council have always had a down on Coventry having an airport. They have put every possible obstacle in the way. Methinks this goes way back to the days when Coventry was taken out of Warwickshire, with the subsequent loss of revenue to the county.
Insert gravel pit, offenders / asylum cells / dirty industry of your choice.
The problem would still be that WDC have the final call. If only they'd called it "Coventry Shakespeare" or "Coventry - Warwick - South Midlands" then maybe we'd still have a few flights - although the name would have only bought some political favours, it doesn't put bums on seats, as our friends at MME know too well!
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I agree he wouldn't repeat the mistake. Unfortunately that means little or no passenger services. LoCo's are given silly prices for the first year at BHX, with access to all the facilities. BHX make the money from the passengers using the shops, bars and car parks. CVT has nothing to make money from other than aviation charges. As that would probably not be enough to cover costs it's not worth their while chasing anything.
Like you I would like to see it succeed. However, I believe it will slowly be squeezed by the Rigby developments. Keeping it as a small private aircraft field and maybe some small freight operations to feed a few business' in the new development.
The Council have no real ambition for it, as they are major shareholders in BHX. They do, however, like the business park idea....
I was saying that the airport should be able to make more money, whether or not the airline does is their business.
Of course, I am assuming that the airport would charge a handling fee which was sufficient enough to give them a margin. Now we know that not all airports do that, and we also know that the previous Coughco guys halved the fees in a desperate bid to attract custom.
I am giving Sir Peter enough credit to assume that he wouldn't repeat either of those mistakes.
Of course, I am assuming that the airport would charge a handling fee which was sufficient enough to give them a margin. Now we know that not all airports do that, and we also know that the previous Coughco guys halved the fees in a desperate bid to attract custom.
I am giving Sir Peter enough credit to assume that he wouldn't repeat either of those mistakes.
Like you I would like to see it succeed. However, I believe it will slowly be squeezed by the Rigby developments. Keeping it as a small private aircraft field and maybe some small freight operations to feed a few business' in the new development.
The Council have no real ambition for it, as they are major shareholders in BHX. They do, however, like the business park idea....
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That is so true. Warwick District Council have always had a down on Coventry having an airport. They have put every possible obstacle in the way. Methinks this goes way back to the days when Coventry was taken out of Warwickshire, with the subsequent loss of revenue to the county.
I get the impression that Warwick would rather Coventry didn't exist.
My solution would be quite simple: make Coventry into the Administrative centre for a new "Coventry and Warwickshire" County. I can imagine that would be deeply unpopular, but would make sense for facilities to be centralised, and would also boost Coventry somewhat. They should have done this in the 1970s rather than creating the 'West Midlands' County.
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Coventry Airport
I keep looking at this thread and have been for the past 3 years
I have always said Coventry Airport would be come a Housing Estate and Sir Peter xxxxxxx(Whatever his name) will sell it for same which he appears to be doing
Its an awful shame but Coventry Airport Cant go on SORRY
Ive been saying it for years and will continue with my belief
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We shall wait and see
I have always said Coventry Airport would be come a Housing Estate and Sir Peter xxxxxxx(Whatever his name) will sell it for same which he appears to be doing
Its an awful shame but Coventry Airport Cant go on SORRY
Ive been saying it for years and will continue with my belief
Next Candidates (BEFORE YOU SHOUT AT ME ONLY AN OPINION)
Tees Side
Sheffield
Humberside
We shall wait and see
learjet50, you will need to clarify why you chose those airports that are in your opinion going to turn into housing estates.
I'm not really clued up on CVT, but it seems to have a part to play without passenger services. The only one I might agree with you on is MME, and that is only because of the people who own it.
I'm not really clued up on CVT, but it seems to have a part to play without passenger services. The only one I might agree with you on is MME, and that is only because of the people who own it.
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LoCo's are given silly prices for the first year at BHX, with access to all the facilities.
BHX make the money from the passengers using the shops, bars and car parks. CVT has nothing to make money from other than aviation charges.
CVT must surely make more from parking that BHX as BHX will still be amortising its huge multi storey parking structures, which will also cost more to operate.
I agree about shops & bars - CVT can do the portakabin version, but that won't yield the same results.
On balance, could CVT offer the right airline a workable deal? I'd still like to believe it can, but time is running out to prove that - it is not exactly as if this thread is full of comments along the lines of "so and so from Air XYZ was spotted at the airport today".
No smoke without fire.
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jabird Love your optimism, but, CVT couldn't hope to make enough from car parking, on the areas they have, to make up for the losses in revenue, even for the first year of a deal. There are then sliding scales ongoing.
Yes MOL did storm off, in the days when Ryanair had the power, but, he came back. They don't wield the power they once had with larger airports. However, with smaller airports, they screw them into the ground to make up for it.
No doubt CVT could get a couple of small pax services, but, absolutely nothing they will make any money from.....
Yes MOL did storm off, in the days when Ryanair had the power, but, he came back. They don't wield the power they once had with larger airports. However, with smaller airports, they screw them into the ground to make up for it.
No doubt CVT could get a couple of small pax services, but, absolutely nothing they will make any money from.....
CVT must surely make more from parking that BHX
As someone who was born in Coventry and watched the rise and fall of the airport since the late 60's/early 70's let me assure you that the latest owner is NOT interested in the airport as an airport. He'll bide his time and sell the site off when the time is right to the highest bidder. Who knows what the future holds for Baginton but as an airport, it aint.
Anyone who believes otherwise should borrow your bike and ride off into the sunset!
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BBC News - Newquay Airport gets classic aircraft museum
An unfortunate loss - I would have thought Coventry would hav eheld onto this as a part of their aviation diversity.
An unfortunate loss - I would have thought Coventry would hav eheld onto this as a part of their aviation diversity.
How many of the aircraft at the Baginton Museum would this affect?
I don't know whether the Classic Aircraft Trust owns all or part of the aircraft collection there.
I don't know whether the Classic Aircraft Trust owns all or part of the aircraft collection there.
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How many of the aircraft at the Baginton Museum would this affect?
I don't know whether the Classic Aircraft Trust owns all or part of the aircraft collection there.
I don't know whether the Classic Aircraft Trust owns all or part of the aircraft collection there.
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As someone who was born in Coventry and watched the rise and fall of the airport since the late 60's/early 70's let me assure you that the latest owner is NOT interested in the airport as an airport. He'll bide his time and sell the site off when the time is right to the highest bidder. Who knows what the future holds for Baginton but as an airport, it aint.
One of the criticisms of those Enterprise Zones was that businesses would relocate from elsewhere to take advantage of the cheaper rents...
That rusting railway thing is a shocking sight. I wonder if this place will feature in the future of the airport/area in the big plans that have been drawn up?