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Old 31st Mar 2012, 15:19
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"In terms of total movements recorded Coventry came in 32nd out of 64 airports"
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 17:52
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That's what it's good at and should concentrate on. Any small airport that offers cheap private flying with little competition and no commercial aviation to deal with, will always figure in the top for private flight movements.
Nice to see it playing to it's strengths and not getting lost in over ambitious plans.
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 21:35
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"In terms of total movements recorded Coventry came in 32nd out of 64 airports"

Au contraire Sire!
Coventry Airport finished 2011 ranking in 8th place out of the 64 UK reporting airports for private flight movements, based on CAA Annual Statistics.
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 21:54
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The CAA spreadsheet is here: -

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...ments_2011.csv

Coventry handled a total of 29 754 movements

These are the rest

HEATHROW 480906
GATWICK 251067
MANCHESTER 167469
STANSTED 148317
EDINBURGH 113357
ABERDEEN 108862
LUTON 97574
BIRMINGHAM 93145
GLASGOW. 78111
EAST MIDLANDS 75140
LIVERPOOL. 69055
LONDON CITY 68792
GLOUCESTER. 66715
BRISTOL 66179
NEWCASTLE 64521
JERSEY 61486
SHOREHAM 60673
BELFAST INT. 57460
GUERNSEY 55987
BOURNEMOUTH 51799
LEEDS BRAD. 51527
BLACKPOOL 48922
BIGGIN HILL 47354
SOUTHAMPTON 45700
BELFAST CITY 41844
OXFORD 40648
NORWICH. 38929
DUNDEE 36815
ISLE OF MAN 34224
EXETER 31308
INVERNESS 30755
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Old 1st Apr 2012, 06:12
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More importantly, is it making them any money?
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Old 1st Apr 2012, 08:32
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If it's core business is private flying then, perhaps, it would be appropriate to change the name back to Baginton Aerodrome!
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Old 1st Apr 2012, 20:34
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Dawdler.

Coventry was bound to beat EMA + BHX on private flights.

How many private planes are based at Coventry probably 50+

There is one private aircraft based at BHX being a Pa-31. There are probably about 20 private aircraft based at EMA.

Coventry still has NO schedule passengers flights on average 3 scheduled freight flights a night. Very little adhoc freight flights as they all seem to be going to BHX at the moment. And very little in the way of Biz jet movements. There being 3 biz jets based at Coventry and on average no more than 4 other biz movements a week.

Personally with the extended opening hours to accommodate the freight flights at night Coventry must still probably be loosing money. Will be very interesting when the 1st set of accounts are published.
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Old 1st Apr 2012, 21:35
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And assuming thats the case then if it wasn't for the GA they have attracted then they would be loosing more money.
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Old 2nd Apr 2012, 11:05
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with the extended opening hours to accommodate the freight flights at night Coventry must still probably be loosing money
I'm guessing the freight operator pays the whole of the cost of those extended opening hours, so no impact on the airport's bottom line.
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Old 3rd Apr 2012, 17:31
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for the cvt enthusiast steak out restaurant has opened at the Coventry Airplane Club over looking the runway. also rumour has it west atlantic has aquired another 737300 due at end of month
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Old 3rd Apr 2012, 20:59
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Sadly, Coventry will be losing a considerable sum for now with no light at the end of the tunnel. They average under 1 business aircraft departure a day when five years ago it would have been around three a day. They only have Cat 2 fire cover for most of the day and if you want to go to Cat 3 (for say mid-size business jets) you need to give two days notice!

The costs of running an IFR airport through to 2:00am in the morning plus a radar service during the day will be frightening when your core income is merely light general aviation and your fees are relatively low. The freight flights will barely cover the operational costs of going on to 2:00am in the morning.

Before they get back any business avaition and any commercial aviation they will have to revert back to a high cat RFF which will cost several hundred thousand a year for starters.

It doesn't look too promising when a whole lot of infrastructure will need patching up, upgrading, replacing or refurbishment, a never ending drip, drip, drip of hard cash. Not many will have the desire to stick that out indefinately. You need a benefactor with more passion than sense - or Easyjet move in, even then, they wont pay you anything for five years. Needs an injection like Southend and the Stobart Group - £130m to kick start it back to life. Unfortunately BHX is way to close and all that just in time freight is indeed still packing the ramp there day after day for the likes of Jaguar Land Rover etc. They're not going back to Coventry. BHX is also very cheap for landing and parking which just adds to the pain for Coventry.

Very tough nut to crack.
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Old 27th Apr 2012, 15:31
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atlantics 2nd 737 arrived in today. good view from steakout's balcony of it sitting nicely on the apron.

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Old 8th May 2012, 01:44
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You need a benefactor with more passion than sense - or Easyjet move in, even then, they wont pay you anything for five years.
Well do we at least now have the scenario that could make this possible.

Namely - baby finally aborted, creating some gaps in the market at BHX and EMA.

Some of these will be filled by existing rivals + BE have already pounced on the mixed biz & leisure routes (Scotland, CDG, AMS) that they feel they can turn a profit on.

So, do U2 come back looking for a piece of the Midlands pie (as previously hinted), and if so, they will presumably be talking to all 3 airports (suggestions they could come back to EMA elsewhere).

After all, what they have done at SEN isn't exactly the most ambitious set of new routes, but it is clearly good enough for SEN.

I would still expect that U2 would use CVT more as a bargaining chip than as their preferred choice, but if the price is right, are we at least in with an outside hope?
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 15:28
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More in today's local about plans for as many as 14,000 jobs on the airport site, but the only comment on passenger routes is that Sir Peter plans to re-introduce them.

We already know that. The question is, will any airlines accept his invitation?

Could Coventry airport tycoon owner Sir Peter Rigby's 14,000-job plan really take off? - Coventry Telegraph - Talking Politics
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 00:02
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Rigby was only ever interested in the land development. He knows that passenger services from CVT will never make the airport any money...
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Old 18th Jun 2012, 14:16
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He knows that passenger services from CVT will never make the airport any money...
They would still make more money than no passenger services!

I'm not discounting the value in the surrounding land, not to mention what could be done with the site if the airport was closed.

Nor do I think it very likely that we will see commercial flights again, especially as the outside edge scenario of Bmibaby winding down and creating an opportunity for ALL of the Midlands airports to offer a blinding deal to Easy doesn't seem to have come to anything.
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 07:49
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RJ Circuits

Back sometime in April, I saw an RJ on final approach to CVT and then come round several times in about 30 minutes. Is someone doing training on RJ's at Coventry?
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 12:10
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The 146 was Bahrain Govt, it flew to Coventry from Norwich and done about 10 circuits.

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Old 20th Jun 2012, 13:02
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BAe 146

Ah cheers BHX5DME, thanks for the info.
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 18:07
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I look forward to supporting Steakout. Coventry must survive. It deserves to survive.
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