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supposedly its their current 72-500`s that are being re-painted, and a few ex Delta Connection 72`s are being brought in to replace them in the RE fleet.
so how may variations of the RE colour scheme are we likely to see.
so far we have All white / Old Aer Arann express colours / Newer colours as seen on EI-BYO . The "Rings" scheme on the 500`s will be painted over in Green, what their next scheme ???
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so how may variations of the RE colour scheme are we likely to see.
so far we have All white / Old Aer Arann express colours / Newer colours as seen on EI-BYO . The "Rings" scheme on the 500`s will be painted over in Green, what their next scheme ???
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Hey all,
Any news on how preparations are coming along for the Aer Lingus Regional work? Assume the ATR72-500's currently in the fleet will transition to the new scheme? Unfortunate for the brand if they are as they're the only aircraft in the fleet with a decent outward appearance.
Anyone heard if the 2010 ATR72 deliveries are still planned?
All the best,
P2C
Any news on how preparations are coming along for the Aer Lingus Regional work? Assume the ATR72-500's currently in the fleet will transition to the new scheme? Unfortunate for the brand if they are as they're the only aircraft in the fleet with a decent outward appearance.
Anyone heard if the 2010 ATR72 deliveries are still planned?
All the best,
P2C
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LCY-IOM
I'm disappointed to keep reading that the ATR72-500's are likely to lose their current distinctive livery, although I do hope the EI Regional branding does good for both airlines. I'd just like to see RE with a fleet of fresh, smart looking aircraft. They did a lot to market the 500's credentials, I hope all that doesn't go by the wayside.
I'm also interested to know what will happen regarding IOM-LCY. Doesn't RE base 1 x 72-500 on IOM for this route, and RE was the airline that got this aircraft certified for LCY operations, i.e. the first airline to do so.
These ex-Delta Connections ATR72's (the ones listed as coming in from Air Contractors) are 212 designation not 212A, the main external variation is the number of prop blades on the engines. If the 500's are being repainted in EI Regional colours, for EI Regional ops, what will be used for LCY-IOM? Is a 212 the same as a 212A for the purposes of LCY ops?
There's been little said from RE about the next batch of new 500's. An article in the Irish Times yesterday said RE made a "not insignificant" loss in 2009 and is projected to turn that around to a small loss in 2010. So I guess it's perfectly reasonable to assume that they may have been delayed. In one of this month's Airliner magazines there's a supplement listing UK/Irish airlines fleets, that makes interesting reading because 5 x 42's listed, including EI-EHH, 2 x 201's, 4 x 72 500's (i.e. the current batch) then lists EI-RES, T, U, V as delivery 2010 plus 2 more in 2010 and 2 more i 2011. Making a fleet of 19 in total by 2011? Also this makes 12 x 500's vs the 10 publicly ordered. Am somewhat confused by this!!
I really hope RE don't lose focus, i.e. just concentrate on EI Regional. They've got a loyal customer base so I hope they keep developing both RE brands and EI Regional.
I'm also interested to know what will happen regarding IOM-LCY. Doesn't RE base 1 x 72-500 on IOM for this route, and RE was the airline that got this aircraft certified for LCY operations, i.e. the first airline to do so.
These ex-Delta Connections ATR72's (the ones listed as coming in from Air Contractors) are 212 designation not 212A, the main external variation is the number of prop blades on the engines. If the 500's are being repainted in EI Regional colours, for EI Regional ops, what will be used for LCY-IOM? Is a 212 the same as a 212A for the purposes of LCY ops?
There's been little said from RE about the next batch of new 500's. An article in the Irish Times yesterday said RE made a "not insignificant" loss in 2009 and is projected to turn that around to a small loss in 2010. So I guess it's perfectly reasonable to assume that they may have been delayed. In one of this month's Airliner magazines there's a supplement listing UK/Irish airlines fleets, that makes interesting reading because 5 x 42's listed, including EI-EHH, 2 x 201's, 4 x 72 500's (i.e. the current batch) then lists EI-RES, T, U, V as delivery 2010 plus 2 more in 2010 and 2 more i 2011. Making a fleet of 19 in total by 2011? Also this makes 12 x 500's vs the 10 publicly ordered. Am somewhat confused by this!!
I really hope RE don't lose focus, i.e. just concentrate on EI Regional. They've got a loyal customer base so I hope they keep developing both RE brands and EI Regional.
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All the ATR72s are (according to Jethros) -200 - or, specifically, 212A - models.
I'm actually surprised that they're repainting the acft in the new "Celtic rings" logo, which (if I'm not mistaken) means there'll be no acft still left in this logo, while there are still quite a few in the old scheme? Wouldn't it have made more sense to repaint these and keep the "Celtic Rings" scheme as their main livery?
Enjoy it while it lasts: JetPhotos.Net Photo » EI-REP (CN: 797) Aer Arann ATR 72-212A by John Fitzpatrick
Still, good to see this going ahead and I hope it brings very significant benefits to both carriers.
I'm actually surprised that they're repainting the acft in the new "Celtic rings" logo, which (if I'm not mistaken) means there'll be no acft still left in this logo, while there are still quite a few in the old scheme? Wouldn't it have made more sense to repaint these and keep the "Celtic Rings" scheme as their main livery?
Enjoy it while it lasts: JetPhotos.Net Photo » EI-REP (CN: 797) Aer Arann ATR 72-212A by John Fitzpatrick
Still, good to see this going ahead and I hope it brings very significant benefits to both carriers.
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Well it looks as if these 4 aircraft will be sole use of Air Lingus Regional hence the reason they will be painted in the Air Lingus Regional livery.
All other aircraft will remain in Aer Arann Livery as they will be used on their PSO's and anyth other route that will remain Aer Arann.
It would make sence that Aer Arann plans to update their livery on all their remaining aircraft to bring them into one livery but i can't see this being done until W10 as the aircraft is very much needed especially with the 4 operating Aer Lingus Regional.
All other aircraft will remain in Aer Arann Livery as they will be used on their PSO's and anyth other route that will remain Aer Arann.
It would make sence that Aer Arann plans to update their livery on all their remaining aircraft to bring them into one livery but i can't see this being done until W10 as the aircraft is very much needed especially with the 4 operating Aer Lingus Regional.
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If you go to book a flight on the Aer Lingus website (which is operated by Aer Arann as part of the partnership) it now states the aircraft as being operated by an AT5 - Is this not the abbreviation for an ATR 42? If so, has there been a change to the agreement or is this just an error?
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Well it's a shame to see the only decent aircraft in the fleet get the make-over. Will be interesting to see what happens with the deliveries due this coming summer. Perhaps these could be devoted to "Wave 2" of the Aer Lingus / Aer Arann pact.
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Don't really understand why they don't go the whole hog; should be an EI franchise operation for the reaminder of the routes- savings on reservations etc- or would the PSOs not allow.
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With the demise of BMI Baby on the Cork-East Midlands route, could this be another opportunity for Aer Arann? An ATR would be a lot more suitable for this route than a 737.
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Had a quick look at the booking engine for winter 10/11 and ORK - BHD seems to be down from two to one rotation on weekdays - is this correct or has final schedule not yet been finalised. If it is correct it will be a pity, always thought this route was well supported year round. Could it possibly be a precursor to the route becoming an EI franchise operating to BFS instead?