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While the load factors for CTU may have been slowly picking up, BA obviously didnt see fit to wait and see the potential future revenue come in from this route and see better, perhaps faster streams elsewhere.
Gatwick for BA is not so much leisure orientated as you call it but more point to point. I.e larger amounts of customers originating from that destination / the UK. Of course there are connecting customers at LGW too. Just not on the scale they are able to achieve ex LHR.
Quote: It's the same with Las Vegas route, that is mostly leisure, these kind of flights should be at Gatwick leaving Lhr as business only.
Not if you want to use a 787. BA don't have a 787 base at Gatwick. As for Las Vegas it is not a traditional business route but has possibilities of high premium traffic due to the gambling high roller type of customer.
Not if you want to use a 787. BA don't have a 787 base at Gatwick. As for Las Vegas it is not a traditional business route but has possibilities of high premium traffic due to the gambling high roller type of customer.
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It's the same with Las Vegas route, that is mostly leisure, these kind of flights should be at Gatwick leaving Lhr as business only.
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I don't think that British Airways refer to their 787 fleet as DREAMLINERS it's the same with most operators of the type although your find that the likes of Thomson do but more of a advertising gimmick than anything else, not even Boeing refer to them as DREAMLINERS anymore it was just an origional name given to the aircraft in it's initial design process.
It's either a Boeing 787-8, Boeing 787-9 or Boeing 787-10 in most airlines fleets, I personally dislike the term DREAMLINER.
I don't think that British Airways refer to their 787 fleet as DREAMLINERS it's the same with most operators of the type although your find that the likes of Thomson do but more of a advertising gimmick than anything else, not even Boeing refer to them as DREAMLINERS anymore it was just an origional name given to the aircraft in it's initial design process.
It's either a Boeing 787-8, Boeing 787-9 or Boeing 787-10 in most airlines fleets, I personally dislike the term DREAMLINER.
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No study required the future prosperity of the UK is more important. Where - not Boris island as too far east and it would create major problems for the airspace design. It needs to be west or North west of London with high speed rail link and once built close Heathrow but keep Gatwick and use the Heathrow site for new houses and businesses
It's not just the airport that will need to relocate. Have a drive round the Heathrow area and you will see numerous businesses from hotels to logistics that all rely on the proximity of the airport. We are talking about tens of thousands of jobs here.
If you did close LHR you would wouldn't need to build houses or offices as the local workforce would have been decimated and there would be lots of commercial property available. You would however need to build them around the new airport location for all those who need to relocate.
The area for the third runway is actually mostly wasteground apart from the small area of housing of which BAA own quite a lot.
No study required the future prosperity of the UK is more important. Where - not Boris island as too far east and it would create major problems for the airspace design. It needs to be west or North west of London with high speed rail link and once built close Heathrow but keep Gatwick and use the Heathrow site for new houses and businesses
It's not just the airport that will need to relocate. Have a drive round the Heathrow area and you will see numerous businesses from hotels to logistics that all rely on the proximity of the airport. We are talking about tens of thousands of jobs here.
If you did close LHR you would wouldn't need to build houses or offices as the local workforce would have been decimated and there would be lots of commercial property available. You would however need to build them around the new airport location for all those who need to relocate.
The area for the third runway is actually mostly wasteground apart from the small area of housing of which BAA own quite a lot.
Also, in the intervening centuries, it will still be necesary to expand Heathrow.
Also, which carriers would leave Heathrow for this proposed UK version of Montreal-Mirabel?
Time to wake up to the fact that replacement airport is not an option. That ship sailed in 1946.
Eagle Radio - News - Heathrow boss: PM 'showing leadership' on airport expansion
Showing leadership. ......oh my giddy Aunt.
She has turned onto a heading re severe turbulence!
Never mind extolling the positives this will simply allow the naysayers to reinforce opposition re ;
Monumental costs
Political fall out
Scottish MPs dictating England infastructure policy for their own ends.
...IMO the delay is exactly what T MAY wants.
Don't forget she inherited this and never wanted expansion.
With everything else on her plate Heathrow is 99 of 100 problems and this pushes it back AGAIN !
Showing leadership. ......oh my giddy Aunt.
She has turned onto a heading re severe turbulence!
Never mind extolling the positives this will simply allow the naysayers to reinforce opposition re ;
Monumental costs
Political fall out
Scottish MPs dictating England infastructure policy for their own ends.
...IMO the delay is exactly what T MAY wants.
Don't forget she inherited this and never wanted expansion.
With everything else on her plate Heathrow is 99 of 100 problems and this pushes it back AGAIN !
One could counter-argue that the grass has grown very long and the noise of the cans being kicked down the road has become so deafening that one cannot hear the planes taking off at Colnbrook: Heathrow (again), brexit/article 50, general election.......
Tendency to indecision inherited from Call-Me-Dave, bottling it tendency from dear old Gordon (remember him?).
And could we use slots for new and emerging business routes please BA ?
It's the same with Las Vegas route, that is mostly leisure, these kind of flights should be at Gatwick leaving Lhr as business only.
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I don't think that British Airways refer to their 787 fleet as DREAMLINERS it's the same with most operators of the type although your find that the likes of Thomson do but more of a advertising gimmick than anything else, not even Boeing refer to them as DREAMLINERS anymore it was just an origional name given to the aircraft in it's initial design process.
It's either a Boeing 787-8, Boeing 787-9 or Boeing 787-10 in most airlines fleets, I personally dislike the term DREAMLINER.
I don't think that British Airways refer to their 787 fleet as DREAMLINERS it's the same with most operators of the type although your find that the likes of Thomson do but more of a advertising gimmick than anything else, not even Boeing refer to them as DREAMLINERS anymore it was just an origional name given to the aircraft in it's initial design process.
It's either a Boeing 787-8, Boeing 787-9 or Boeing 787-10 in most airlines fleets, I personally dislike the term DREAMLINER.
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That's because I was right wasn't I and you as well as others do not like comments like that do you.
Oh and your posts are SO interesting I do look forward to reading them why don't you just move on, I would have said more than that but the mods wouldn't have liked it but you know what you are anyway a total ....er!
Thanks for pointing out my spelling mistake regarding 'ORIGIONAL' for some reason I always make that childish mistake regarding that word!
Oh and your posts are SO interesting I do look forward to reading them why don't you just move on, I would have said more than that but the mods wouldn't have liked it but you know what you are anyway a total ....er!
Thanks for pointing out my spelling mistake regarding 'ORIGIONAL' for some reason I always make that childish mistake regarding that word!
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That's because I was right wasn't I and you as well as others do not like comments like that do you.
Oh and your posts are SO interesting I do look forward to reading them why don't you just move on, I would have said more than that but the mods wouldn't have liked it but you know what you are anyway a total ....er!
Thanks for pointing out my spelling mistake regarding 'ORIGIONAL' for some reason I always make that childish mistake regarding that word!
Oh and your posts are SO interesting I do look forward to reading them why don't you just move on, I would have said more than that but the mods wouldn't have liked it but you know what you are anyway a total ....er!
Thanks for pointing out my spelling mistake regarding 'ORIGIONAL' for some reason I always make that childish mistake regarding that word!
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'Creepy fukwit'
How dare you refer to me as that, you don't know me and I don't know you in fact we don't know anyone on here all we know are usernames you have no right to refer to me as such if it continues I too shall call the mods, YOU have no more rights on here than anyone else but it's obvious you want to call the shots. Your nothing on here just another poster so keep your comments to yourself and if you don't wish to read my posts I suggest as paxboy has pointed out just block me.
You don't bring as much to these forums as you think you do and to call me what you have on here is totally out of order and you know it, how dare you as your absolutely out of order!
Never in my life have I been called anything like you have just said and those close to me know exactly how I would react if someone even thought of saying anything like that to me!
So move on and enjoy your boring day!
How dare you refer to me as that, you don't know me and I don't know you in fact we don't know anyone on here all we know are usernames you have no right to refer to me as such if it continues I too shall call the mods, YOU have no more rights on here than anyone else but it's obvious you want to call the shots. Your nothing on here just another poster so keep your comments to yourself and if you don't wish to read my posts I suggest as paxboy has pointed out just block me.
You don't bring as much to these forums as you think you do and to call me what you have on here is totally out of order and you know it, how dare you as your absolutely out of order!
Never in my life have I been called anything like you have just said and those close to me know exactly how I would react if someone even thought of saying anything like that to me!
So move on and enjoy your boring day!
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'Creepy fukwit'
How dare you refer to me as that, you don't know me and I don't know you in fact we don't know anyone on here all we know are usernames you have no right to refer to me as such if it continues I too shall call the mods, YOU have no more rights on here than anyone else but it's obvious you want to call the shots. Your nothing on here just another poster so keep your comments to yourself and if you don't wish to read my posts I suggest as paxboy has pointed out just block me.
You don't bring as much to these forums as you think you do and to call me what you have on here is totally out of order and you know it, how dare you as your absolutely out of order!
Never in my life have I been called anything like you have just said and those close to me know exactly how I would react if someone even thought of saying anything like that to me!
So move on and enjoy your boring day!
How dare you refer to me as that, you don't know me and I don't know you in fact we don't know anyone on here all we know are usernames you have no right to refer to me as such if it continues I too shall call the mods, YOU have no more rights on here than anyone else but it's obvious you want to call the shots. Your nothing on here just another poster so keep your comments to yourself and if you don't wish to read my posts I suggest as paxboy has pointed out just block me.
You don't bring as much to these forums as you think you do and to call me what you have on here is totally out of order and you know it, how dare you as your absolutely out of order!
Never in my life have I been called anything like you have just said and those close to me know exactly how I would react if someone even thought of saying anything like that to me!
So move on and enjoy your boring day!
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Whilst I didn't agree i did like to engage the Manchester mob in what "might" reasoned debate until they were all banned in a night if the long knives of course.
Manchester however never quite got as nonsensical call as this.
Somewhat staggering that you can say what you like and indeed swear on the Heathrow thread and appear to get away with it.
Can we curb this rubbish and get back to sensible discussion?
Anyone agree!
Manchester however never quite got as nonsensical call as this.
Somewhat staggering that you can say what you like and indeed swear on the Heathrow thread and appear to get away with it.
Can we curb this rubbish and get back to sensible discussion?
Anyone agree!
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Somewhat staggering that you can say what you like and indeed swear on the Heathrow thread and appear to get away with it.
Can we curb this rubbish and get back to sensible discussion?
Anyone agree!
Can we curb this rubbish and get back to sensible discussion?
Anyone agree!
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Comparison of the four London airports by airline type – seat capacity: 17-Oct-2016 to 23-Oct-2016
Airports - % of seats
_____FSCs__LCCs__other
LHR___98_____2_____-
LGW__26.6__61.3___13.1
STN___0.3__95.5____4.2
LTN___2.1__94.5____3.4
Source: CAPA - Centre for Aviation and OAG.
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LGW, STN & LTN have much higher Regional, Commuter & Charter operations than LHR.
LHR dominates in UK & EU for FSC operations & has highest 1st & Business share.
Comparison of the four London airports by airline type – seat capacity: 17-Oct-2016 to 23-Oct-2016
Airports - % of seats
_____FSCs__LCCs__other
LHR___98_____2_____-
LGW__26.6__61.3___13.1
STN___0.3__95.5____4.2
LTN___2.1__94.5____3.4
Source: CAPA - Centre for Aviation and OAG.
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LGW, STN & LTN have much higher Regional, Commuter & Charter operations than LHR.
LHR dominates in UK & EU for FSC operations & has highest 1st & Business share.
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FSC = Full Service / Legacy / Network carriers.
Top-5 market share at each:
LHR
BA (48.9%)
VS (4.5%)
UA (3.7%)
LH (2.8%)
EI (2.7%)
LGW
U2 (37.9%)
BA (14.6%)
DY (6.7%)
MT (5.5%)
ZB (5.3%)
STN
FR (80.1%)
U2 (11.4%)
MT (2.2%)
BY (1.8%)
PC (1.4%)
LTN
U2 (39.6%)
W6 (30.3%)
FR (12.3%)
ZB (5.9%)
BY (3.4%)
Top-5 market share at each:
LHR
BA (48.9%)
VS (4.5%)
UA (3.7%)
LH (2.8%)
EI (2.7%)
LGW
U2 (37.9%)
BA (14.6%)
DY (6.7%)
MT (5.5%)
ZB (5.3%)
STN
FR (80.1%)
U2 (11.4%)
MT (2.2%)
BY (1.8%)
PC (1.4%)
LTN
U2 (39.6%)
W6 (30.3%)
FR (12.3%)
ZB (5.9%)
BY (3.4%)