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Actually he's Jemina Khan's brother, she who stood bail for Assange. Dad got the brains, the children got, well daddy's money. Zac is not that bright, lets not pretend he got to be an MP on merit alone. He's not in any way, a Conservative.
Also the son of a man who tried to destroy Private Eye. Tangent, but worth remembering. The words "chinless" and "wonder" still apply to the sons of the wealthy and uber powerful alas.
Also the son of a man who tried to destroy Private Eye. Tangent, but worth remembering. The words "chinless" and "wonder" still apply to the sons of the wealthy and uber powerful alas.
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The title of the article says it all ...
100 suitcases drenched in raw sewage after pipe bursts at Heathrow Terminal 5 - Home News - UK - The Independent
Upsetting for passengers?? No $hit Sherlock ...
100 suitcases drenched in raw sewage after pipe bursts at Heathrow Terminal 5 - Home News - UK - The Independent
A spokesman for the airport operator, BAA Heathrow, said: 'We appreciate this will be upsetting for passengers. The bags have now been cleaned and are being reunited with their owners.'
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I would guess BAAplc as it's their item of infrastructure that broke - irrespective of which client carrier was using the terminal.
Passengers' contracts are with the airline, that's who they pay their money to. If their suppliers/subcontractors get things wrong then the passenger deals with the airline* and it's up to them to sort things out operationally and financially with their service providers. The same is true about any other aspect of the service, lost bags, etc, it's irrelevant to the passenger "who did it", their remedy route is through their airline.
* : Except Ryanair, who tell every complainant to f-off and so it's not worth the effort.
* : Except Ryanair, who tell every complainant to f-off and so it's not worth the effort.
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Quote: "The Sunday Times seemed to suggest that a third runway wouldn't be operational until 2024 (!) and that Boris Island would only take 2 years longer than that to finish (2026)."
At least the third runway won't be lying empty, it will be well used and prove to be value for money.
Yes, good point about "toys" and "pram", Skipness, will just add "throw" and "out of" for good measure.
Would be worth doing the U-turn on Heathrow just to see the back of Goldsmith, but bet Greening would not follow suit! It does appear like tedious gesture politics.
In scant regard for his constituents, he threatens resignation and a by-election, so he's not that different from Louise Mensch, who had the balls to do it without threats beforehand (although for different reasons). What is it with Cameron's "A-listers"?
Justine had to go because of her biased partisan attitude, because of it, she should never have been appointed to the transport job in the first place.
At least the third runway won't be lying empty, it will be well used and prove to be value for money.
Yes, good point about "toys" and "pram", Skipness, will just add "throw" and "out of" for good measure.
Would be worth doing the U-turn on Heathrow just to see the back of Goldsmith, but bet Greening would not follow suit! It does appear like tedious gesture politics.
In scant regard for his constituents, he threatens resignation and a by-election, so he's not that different from Louise Mensch, who had the balls to do it without threats beforehand (although for different reasons). What is it with Cameron's "A-listers"?
Justine had to go because of her biased partisan attitude, because of it, she should never have been appointed to the transport job in the first place.
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At least the third runway won't be lying empty, it will be well used and prove to be value for money.
Would be worth doing the U-turn on Heathrow just to see the back of Goldsmith
should never have been appointed to the transport job in the first place.
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Now really jabird, isn't that asking a little too much!
David Davis "we really need to think about building a brand new airport - and that means building it outside London".
Eggwina "East and West airports"
Another Tory MP yesterday - "it isn't a third runway, it is just half a runway"
Yup! Anyone got a prize for a politician of any colour who actually has credibility on the subject?
Every MP and ex-MP has been on an aeroplane, which makes him/her an expert on aviation strategy.
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Every MP and ex-MP has been on an aeroplane, which makes him/her an expert on aviation strategy.
What we need on any big project is more scrutiny - not just aye v nay, but proper examination of the details - especially when public money is being spent. I
know that's what the TSC and other groups are supposed to do, but when ever I watch the Parliament channel (will need to have a guard on the TV on Monday), I'm always thinking just how many questions there are that just aren't being asked.
For example, on the subject of integrating rail and air, who ever allowed the Heathrow express to be built without a left turn, something that will have taken two decades to fix when they finally get it right.
For example, on the subject of integrating rail and air, who ever allowed the Heathrow express to be built without a left turn, something that will have taken two decades to fix when they finally get it right.
When, if ever, do private finance and joined-up thinking ever go together ?
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Quote: "(Let's stick to the man, not his family!)"
Eh? never mentioned the family, jabird!
Quote: "Presumably he can't just do a Shaun Woodward and cross the floor to the greens, as people wouldn't accept that trick again. Might clear the way though for a more imaginative Tory leader this time though!"
Hmmm, crossing the floor is a thought! Actually a by-election in Richmond would be interesting, it is a Consevative-Libdem marginal, Labour don't stand a chance.
Possibly, Goldsmith might be tempted to fight it as a Green (after a deathbed conversion?) or as an anti-LHR independent.
Boris may be tempted to seek nomination as the Conservative candidate in order to already be in the Commons when the time comes for Call-me-Dave to "fall on his sword".
the results would also give an idea how unpopular the Libdems really are.
Quote: "Yup, think a few of us said at the time it was a shockingly bad appointment, because the Heathrow issue was still unresolved at the time, just as it is now. Jeremy Clarkson would have made a more balanced transport secretary - at least he worships Brunel and even rides a bike now!"
Clarkson at transport?...there's an idea, was thinking that Inspector ("Blakey") Blake of "On The Buses" would be better than Greening.
Thinking about it a little more, Arthur Daley at Business and Derek Trotter at Trade and Industry would get the economy going!
And while we're on a roll: Rupert Rigsby at Housing and Father Ted as minister of faith, the job Warsi is said to have turned down.
Eh? never mentioned the family, jabird!
Quote: "Presumably he can't just do a Shaun Woodward and cross the floor to the greens, as people wouldn't accept that trick again. Might clear the way though for a more imaginative Tory leader this time though!"
Hmmm, crossing the floor is a thought! Actually a by-election in Richmond would be interesting, it is a Consevative-Libdem marginal, Labour don't stand a chance.
Possibly, Goldsmith might be tempted to fight it as a Green (after a deathbed conversion?) or as an anti-LHR independent.
Boris may be tempted to seek nomination as the Conservative candidate in order to already be in the Commons when the time comes for Call-me-Dave to "fall on his sword".
the results would also give an idea how unpopular the Libdems really are.
Quote: "Yup, think a few of us said at the time it was a shockingly bad appointment, because the Heathrow issue was still unresolved at the time, just as it is now. Jeremy Clarkson would have made a more balanced transport secretary - at least he worships Brunel and even rides a bike now!"
Clarkson at transport?...there's an idea, was thinking that Inspector ("Blakey") Blake of "On The Buses" would be better than Greening.
Thinking about it a little more, Arthur Daley at Business and Derek Trotter at Trade and Industry would get the economy going!
And while we're on a roll: Rupert Rigsby at Housing and Father Ted as minister of faith, the job Warsi is said to have turned down.
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Let's stick to the man, not his family!
Let Boris stand, he was found wanting last time. Lazy and unable to master a simple brief in his shadow cabinet role. If he stands, he will be found out, he is very unlikely to be leader, regardless of what the papers say. He would be like Gordon Brown on one level, a one man calamity.
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FDF - I suspect the dollar cost of the committee will be pretty small, the external cost of 3 years of dithering is a different matter.
Or:
will - kick the ball around for three years before reaching the same conclusion of the public consultation done on airport capacity in 2003.
Reading between the lines, it does look like a done deal in favour of the runway though.
Father and sister not family? You can't choose your parents and siblings!
Lib Dems don't stand a chance anywhere.
Tories not looking too hot either.
Think it could be anyone's race.
He was previously editor of "The Ecologist" magazine. What is the difference between Green and anti-(insert industry of your choice)?
The Commission will:
examine the scale and timing of any requirement for additional capacity to maintain the UK’s position as Europe’s most important aviation hub
examine the scale and timing of any requirement for additional capacity to maintain the UK’s position as Europe’s most important aviation hub
will - kick the ball around for three years before reaching the same conclusion of the public consultation done on airport capacity in 2003.
Reading between the lines, it does look like a done deal in favour of the runway though.
Eh? never mentioned the family, jabird!
Consevative-Libdem marginal, Labour don't stand a chance
Tories not looking too hot either.
Think it could be anyone's race.
Green (after a deathbed conversion?) or as an anti-LHR independent
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EK-QF-Agreement
From April 2013 QF will operate its LHR services from SYD and MEL via DXB instead of SIN and therefore "The Kangaroo Route" will be re-named to "The Falcon Route".
Dubai to Become New International Hub for Qantas European Operations | Emirates United Arab Emirates
In addition, Qantas will launch daily A380 services from both Sydney and Melbourne to London via Dubai for a combined unprecedented seven daily A380 flights to London Heathrow.
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Yes indeed, Seljuk22. There is an established thread in this forum: http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...il-2013-a.html
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Quote: "Father and sister not family? You can't choose your parents and siblings!"
Maybe, but not mentioned by me. Referred only to Zac Goldsmith and his anti-LHR stance/potential by-election "threat".
Quote: "Lib Dems don't stand a chance anywhere.
Tories not looking too hot either.
Think it could be anyone's race."
Not anyone's, not Labour's or UKIP's for example. Barring any wild-cards (such as an anti-LHR single issue independent), a by-election in Richmond would produce a Conservative or Libdem MP. With the Libdems so unpopular, it would be interesting to see the percentage of their support that swaps over to the Greens.
Quote: "Reading between the lines, it does look like a done deal in favour of the runway though."
Always has been, there is no alternative. Should have got on with it in 2003. The rwy would be up and running by now.
Quote: "He was previously editor of "The Ecologist" magazine. What is the difference between Green and anti-(insert industry of your choice)?
Very little, the first is an official political party (of sorts) as registered with the Electoral Commission, the second is a one man/woman band.
Maybe, but not mentioned by me. Referred only to Zac Goldsmith and his anti-LHR stance/potential by-election "threat".
Quote: "Lib Dems don't stand a chance anywhere.
Tories not looking too hot either.
Think it could be anyone's race."
Not anyone's, not Labour's or UKIP's for example. Barring any wild-cards (such as an anti-LHR single issue independent), a by-election in Richmond would produce a Conservative or Libdem MP. With the Libdems so unpopular, it would be interesting to see the percentage of their support that swaps over to the Greens.
Quote: "Reading between the lines, it does look like a done deal in favour of the runway though."
Always has been, there is no alternative. Should have got on with it in 2003. The rwy would be up and running by now.
Quote: "He was previously editor of "The Ecologist" magazine. What is the difference between Green and anti-(insert industry of your choice)?
Very little, the first is an official political party (of sorts) as registered with the Electoral Commission, the second is a one man/woman band.