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P5 - I understand it can use all runways to land, my "point" is, can it use 09L to depart - fully loaded, or has T5 restricted its ability (or other large a/c) to get to the start. If the future consultation on mixed mode and the removal of the Cranford agreement allow use of 09L for departures will it be able?
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Just noticed on the BAA departures these two BA flights departing T5
22:20 BA9915 NEW YORK SCHEDULED Terminal five
23:40 BA9916 NEW YORK SCHEDULED Terminal five
Any ideas?
22:20 BA9915 NEW YORK SCHEDULED Terminal five
23:40 BA9916 NEW YORK SCHEDULED Terminal five
Any ideas?
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LHR terminal 5 ..... no room for staff.
I am told that the provision for airline staff at terminal 5 is lacking to say the least.
Rumour has is that the enginnes have no wash rooms and have to go up into the passenger area to clean up................. that will go down well after a wheel and brake change!
The aircrew will have to check bags with the pax and recover the bags in baggage reclaim after a flight.
Only one staff rest area for all staff................ that will be interesting, the cabin crew having to mix with the baggage loaders!
H&S rules about walking on the ramp turning a short walk to an aircraft into a mile hike (or take the tool box and the brake unit to the aircraft via the passenger area)
I don't know how true this all is but it would seem that the only thing the BAA have got right is the shops, still the staff will be able to eat well at Gordon Ramsey's restaruant with the starters at about £40 it should be well within the budget.
Comments please from the people who will have to work in terminal 5
Rumour has is that the enginnes have no wash rooms and have to go up into the passenger area to clean up................. that will go down well after a wheel and brake change!
The aircrew will have to check bags with the pax and recover the bags in baggage reclaim after a flight.
Only one staff rest area for all staff................ that will be interesting, the cabin crew having to mix with the baggage loaders!
H&S rules about walking on the ramp turning a short walk to an aircraft into a mile hike (or take the tool box and the brake unit to the aircraft via the passenger area)
I don't know how true this all is but it would seem that the only thing the BAA have got right is the shops, still the staff will be able to eat well at Gordon Ramsey's restaruant with the starters at about £40 it should be well within the budget.
Comments please from the people who will have to work in terminal 5
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A and C,
I have absolutely no idea as to whether it is true or not. Call me a cynic but I have very little faith in BAA and all things relating to huge projects in the country. I'm cringing at the thought of how the olympics will turn out...
Anyway not really of any help is it? Sorry. Looking forward to the replies though.
L Met
I have absolutely no idea as to whether it is true or not. Call me a cynic but I have very little faith in BAA and all things relating to huge projects in the country. I'm cringing at the thought of how the olympics will turn out...
Anyway not really of any help is it? Sorry. Looking forward to the replies though.
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True the staff areas are quite small but in reply to a couple of coments in ur post:
"The aircrew will have to check bags with the pax" - Not true, dedicated crew check in is located behind 1st class check in.
"Only one staff rest area for all staff" - There is only one (huge) staff canteen offering full meals.... however the CRC (crew report centre) has a branch of Cafe Riazza, a quiet lounge and a TV lounge. All for only flight/cabin crew (they are somewhat small tho).
"The aircrew will have to check bags with the pax" - Not true, dedicated crew check in is located behind 1st class check in.
"Only one staff rest area for all staff" - There is only one (huge) staff canteen offering full meals.... however the CRC (crew report centre) has a branch of Cafe Riazza, a quiet lounge and a TV lounge. All for only flight/cabin crew (they are somewhat small tho).
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Mostly untrue.
Yes Crew have to collect bags from baggage hall but thats standard practice worldwide.
I Can count 2 sets of staff toilets and showers on the apron level of T5a and 2 on arrivals level alone. 2 sets of locker and drying rooms airside on arrivals level. 2 rest rooms in t5a for ground staff and 1 for crew plus 1 in t5b. 2 landsides staff coffee shops, 1 airside staff coffee shop in t5b. 2 staff snack/sandwich bars airside in t5a. Plus 4 full meal canteens one in T5a landside, 1 in t5b plus one in EAA and SAA buildings.
Yes Crew have to collect bags from baggage hall but thats standard practice worldwide.
I Can count 2 sets of staff toilets and showers on the apron level of T5a and 2 on arrivals level alone. 2 sets of locker and drying rooms airside on arrivals level. 2 rest rooms in t5a for ground staff and 1 for crew plus 1 in t5b. 2 landsides staff coffee shops, 1 airside staff coffee shop in t5b. 2 staff snack/sandwich bars airside in t5a. Plus 4 full meal canteens one in T5a landside, 1 in t5b plus one in EAA and SAA buildings.
I hear that Rolls Royce are working on enginnes (or engines) that have tiny wash rooms fitted behind the compressor blades. This will mean that the engineers can save time but will also mean that they too have to be tiny.
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T5 - a pax view
I was "privileged" to take part in a trial at T5 a couple of weeks ago, playing (along with 2000 others!) the part of a passenger departing, arriving and transferring through T5 throughout the day. The trial was professionally and realistically run, and as a frequent flyer it felt all too familiar.
I was however disappointed with the new terminal. It really is a very large (and noisy....) shed, and is missing that "wow" factor which the same architect (Richard Rogers) managed to achieve at Madrid's Barajas, for instance. Navigation through it is very much dependant on being able to follow the signage, which, although profuse, appears currently less than complete. My first "departure" was not helped by using a remote stand, so the supposedly enhanced check-in/security/gate procedure was somewhat spoiled by then being herded into the usual cattle truck for the journey to the plane!
I can only hope that the terminal's professed efficiency and mega-shopping experience is enough to recompense for the lack of architectural delight.
I was however disappointed with the new terminal. It really is a very large (and noisy....) shed, and is missing that "wow" factor which the same architect (Richard Rogers) managed to achieve at Madrid's Barajas, for instance. Navigation through it is very much dependant on being able to follow the signage, which, although profuse, appears currently less than complete. My first "departure" was not helped by using a remote stand, so the supposedly enhanced check-in/security/gate procedure was somewhat spoiled by then being herded into the usual cattle truck for the journey to the plane!
I can only hope that the terminal's professed efficiency and mega-shopping experience is enough to recompense for the lack of architectural delight.
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from what i saw on my t5 course, your right there's kinda very little room for staff.
the only thing what made t5 shine was the vast amount of good shops & shopping one could possibly do.
i also hear the first day will be chaos for us @ cargo so call in sick !....
the only thing what made t5 shine was the vast amount of good shops & shopping one could possibly do.
i also hear the first day will be chaos for us @ cargo so call in sick !....
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From what i hear.
Staff wont have time to go to a rest area. all the staff will have little PDAs that their jobs get sent to, i know they are being used now however judging from what i hear by the time staff finsh one job they will be onto another, with less time to pop back for a drink than they do now if they having anytime at all.
Making BA get their moneys worth out of everyone.
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Staff wont have time to go to a rest area. all the staff will have little PDAs that their jobs get sent to, i know they are being used now however judging from what i hear by the time staff finsh one job they will be onto another, with less time to pop back for a drink than they do now if they having anytime at all.
Making BA get their moneys worth out of everyone.
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the only thing what made t5 shine was the vast amount of good shops & shopping one could possibly do.
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Isnt life tough... 
Iam sure that somewhere in the 'biggest greenhouse in Europe' there will be ample and adequite provisions for the staff (What, no subsidised catering?)
Nevermind. I have it on good authority that BA has spent approx £60 million on fixtures and furnishings for the executive and business lounges in T5
Willie, make sure you look after the right people first eh...
Iam sure that somewhere in the 'biggest greenhouse in Europe' there will be ample and adequite provisions for the staff (What, no subsidised catering?)
Nevermind. I have it on good authority that BA has spent approx £60 million on fixtures and furnishings for the executive and business lounges in T5
Willie, make sure you look after the right people first eh...
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I've been told that its not possible for staff travel standbys to get to the gates after flight close-out at check-in, due to the requirement to be at certain places within the terminal a minimum of so many minutes before departure. Has anybody here done a trial run based on being a standby passenger?
(Also, the same source says that the baggage conveyancy system has been trialled using empty suitcases, but now that properly weighted cases are being used, the system cannot physically cope once its running near to full capacity.)
(Also, the same source says that the baggage conveyancy system has been trialled using empty suitcases, but now that properly weighted cases are being used, the system cannot physically cope once its running near to full capacity.)