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Old 13th Jul 2015, 10:57
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if that was what was going to happen
OK, I'll bite.

Which part have I (and the AIP) got wrong ?
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 16:09
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All the AIP supplement mandates is that RNAV 0.3 capable aircraft have the procedures coded, ready for use.
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 16:32
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OK, I was wondering about that.

So I guess the trial could end up being a non-event if everyone decides to request an ILS or MLS approach ...

Out of interest, which airlines do you think are likely to be on board ?
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 11:05
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Clearest signal yet that the Govt are to give LHR the nod for a 3rd runway.

The PM has selected a committee to look into the findings of the Airport Commission report that favours LHR.

He has left out all MPs that are opposing the 3rd LHR runway and had secret talks behind the scenes with Boris Johnson on the topic yesterday ...

PM says he will announce his final decision before this XMAS after his committee reports back.


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Old 24th Jul 2015, 11:37
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just opens another route to a legal challenge..................
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 11:54
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Almaty and Entebbe dropped by BA from LHR
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 11:59
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Are there any banana skins out there that they have ignored that could lead to a legal challenge and derail this yet? Like using out of date figures for Lgw pax?


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Old 24th Jul 2015, 15:17
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The whole process is open to numerous challenges - the one that will probably sink them is the lack of consideration of pollution around LHR

especially when the UK is already in the dock over not doing enough to lower airborne pollution.........

this will make T5 look like a morning in the Magistrates Court
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 16:23
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Having crawled around the M25 abeam LHR yet again yesterday I still think this will sink any proposals to expand a pointless expansion
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 18:45
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That old chestnut hey err... Walnut?

By that yardstick, we'd better move LGW 'coz every time I drive the motorway down there I get stuck in traffic.

Or move Slough 'coz the M4's always congested when I go passed....

From the data in the AC report & Highways Agency, LHR isn't the main reason for congestion on the western M25 stretch. Convenient excuse but not the cause.
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Old 25th Jul 2015, 01:52
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Iberia LHR - LPA Route

Looks like Iberia are starting their own LHR - LPA rotations from 25th October operating Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday & Friday using A319 A/C -

IB3006 - 14:00 LPA - 18:20 LHR
IB3005 - 19:10 LHR - 23:30 LPA

Iberia Express are reducing their frequency to once weekly on Tuesday's with the above timings using A320 A/C

British Airways will still operate the Saturday seasonal flight which means daily departures will be offered on the LHR - LPA Route.
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 18:14
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From the data in the AC report & Highways Agency, LHR isn't the main reason for congestion on the western M25 stretch. Convenient excuse but not the cause.
Too many junctions on top of each other doesn't help on that stretch. Encourages local traffic and junction-hopping on what was designed as a bypass, and that means mass lane changing which slows everything down.
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Old 11th Aug 2015, 19:04
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Record Month !!

July was a month of personal bests for Heathrow, with the UK’s only hub welcoming a record 7.29 million passengers (+4.7% on July 2014) and for the first time ever serving over a quarter of a million passengers, not just once but on three separate days. July 31st saw the most passengers ever travelling through Heathrow, with 254,375 passengers choosing the UK’s only hub airport
Larger, quieter, fuller aircraft continued to be a driver for passenger growth at Heathrow. Seats per aircraft increased 2.3% to 209.6 while passengers per aircraft rose 4.1% to 175.6 and load factors increased 1.8% to 83.8%
Within emerging markets, passenger volumes were particularly strong to Mexico which was up 29.5%, China up 13.7% and Brazil up 1.6%. Middle East traffic was also up 13.3% as carriers added new A380s to these segments
Heathrow continues to welcome the transfer passengers that make such long-haul flights possible, with year-on-year volumes increasing 2.5%
Cargo volumes at Heathrow, the UK’s biggest port by value, recorded growth of 3.2% over the past 12 months, with increases to notable emerging markets including 41.3% to Mexico, 26.3% to Turkey, 18.6% to Brazil, 10.7% to India
Heathrow is Britain’s link with global markets, enabling trade and tourism by hosting over 70% of the UK’s long-haul flights. The airport has seen significant increasing demand for services to fast-growing markets like Mexico and China, but without additional capacity this growth cannot continue. The Airports Commission found in its recent recommendation that new opportunities for trade are dependent on improved global connectivity and an expanded Heathrow will provide this

Heathrow CEO John Holland-Kaye said:
"I agree with the Prime Minister’s comments during the recent trade mission to South East Asia that Britain should be trading more with the rest of the world.
As the UK’s largest port, Heathrow is the beating heart of Britain’s trading network. Our best exports, whether Scottish salmon or life-saving pharmaceuticals, all pass through Heathrow on their way to markets across the globe. With expansion, we can add connections to new markets, opening up the lucrative trade routes that will secure British prosperity over the coming decades.”
- See more at: Heathrow - Traffic and business commentary July 2015
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Old 11th Aug 2015, 21:18
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`````boxes pallets and containers along with documents couldn't give stuff where they depart/arrive .

Much of the hardware exports/import could and do travel through regional airports (mainly the MAG group !) and via road /rail to the lowlands every day.

Under floor use useful but not the be all and end al!

And as a vehicle in the LHR needs a 3rd runway because its a rather weak argument on its own!

And the China route queue is a myth right now - The UK is not welcoming to the Peoples Republic with all the Visa issues combined with the rhetoric over immigrants conflated with asylum seekers currently.

As for Brasil its remains a tiny market for the UK in every respect other the timber and thats put on ships to you guessed it the lowlands put on smaller ships and landed in places such as Hove !

India is a basket case low profit VFR and even lower profit (for UK PLC) transit traffic to/from the US

The other bric -Russia well the UK are having our own little cold war right now.

Other than Oligarchs hiding their money and flying rather luxuriously in/out of Luton - The market has collapsed !
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Old 12th Aug 2015, 07:54
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And the China route queue is a myth right now - The UK is not welcoming to the Peoples Republic with all the Visa issues combined with the rhetoric over immigrants conflated with asylum seekers currently.
Indeed, the refusal of the UK to accept Schengen visas add an unpleasant extra cost to Chinese (and other) tourists "doing Europe", of which the UK is (allegedly) a part.

It matters not how much less the UK government charges for a UK visa, there will always be a cost in time, more forms to fill in etc - that will put some potential visitors off adding the UK to their European itinerary.
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Old 1st Sep 2015, 22:10
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Aeroflot has just bought a 75% stake in Transaero for 1 rouble. Does this mean that they will have to forfeit the Transaero slots at LHR to another Russian carrier under the terms of the bilateral?
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Old 13th Sep 2015, 12:31
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Jeremy Corbyn's election as leader of Labour party could scupper plans for third runway at Heathrow - UK Politics - UK - The Independent

And it came to pass....!
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Old 13th Sep 2015, 12:55
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Hardly, the govt and the SNP want it and there's not enough rebels.
Quite news day bagso, stop agitating.
Corbyn's analysis is what you'd expect from someone who got 2 Es at A Level and dropped out of a polytechnic. He's now about to be found out. The idea he could whip the Labour MPs into line on this would allow the Tories to paint them as Green left wingers actively killing jobs and investment. His MPs won't allow this comedy horror show to even get to the 2020 election IMHO.
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Old 13th Sep 2015, 17:08
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I think the only agitator on here, nay the whole forum is your goodself Skip.
Although MM is always a close second.

This is an observation on Corbyns views on Heathrow NOT a discussion about the merits for good or bad of the Labour Party electing him.
Please lets not stray off-piste.

At least I can support my comments with evidence rather than soundbites !

The link I posted is highly relevant to observers of the LHR debate as indeed are the following links below.

On a theme where on earth is your evidence that the SNP support RW3 ?

I think you will find that since the initial Davies report was published, many SNP MPs have scrutinised the small print. Many are rightly concerned re costs and in addition have been "got at" by Edinburgh Airport who having had a sniff of long haul are determined to hold onto it.

Alex Salmond "grandee" of the SNP is now decidedly anti.

I think you are deluded if you believe SNPs are "really" going to defy him and indeed Nicola Sturgeon who also appears to be now somewhat lukewarm.

Heathrow decision just latest example of UK Government?s London obsession - Alex Salmond / Politics / News / The Courier

Nicola Sturgeon: Decision over third Heathrow runway will be decided by SNP vote | London | News | London Evening Standard

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Old 13th Sep 2015, 18:14
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Call me a cynic, but I don't think the SNP have strong views on whether airport expansion should be at LHR, LGW or not at all.

The most likely scenario would seem to be that any potential support for the Government on the issue would involve some serious horsetrading in other areas that are more important from a Scottish point of view.

Which, after all, is what they were elected to do.
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