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Gosh its all gone very quiet in here!! NO EI or MOL bashing, no Air India's on the way, no DAA could not run a cake stand at a church car boot sale!
It can only mean on thing....... all the ills of Dublin International Airport are now sorted and we can move forward knowing our futures are all secure no matter what airline (btw i dont work for one), or service provider we work for.
I hearty hurah from me!!
It can only mean on thing....... all the ills of Dublin International Airport are now sorted and we can move forward knowing our futures are all secure no matter what airline (btw i dont work for one), or service provider we work for.
I hearty hurah from me!!
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AI to DUB now unlikely
looks like decision made and DUB not involved??
Air India says it will shift some of its international flights from its Frankfurt connecting hub to Delhi’s Indira Gandhi International Airport.
The service will start fully functioning by year-end 2011, once the airline’s domestic and international operations are fully integrated.
Air India (AI) will also start operating to new nonstop destinations — Melbourne, Toronto and Chicago — while resuming services to Seoul with the winter schedule. Paris and Tokyo are expected to become dailies.
With the planned increases, AI will operate 143 international services offering about 33,000 seats per week in each direction on routes from Delhi, up from 22,500 seats.
Domestically, AI’s operations from Delhi are being further strengthened to 47 domestic destinations with increased frequencies, as well as nonstop and direct services. Domestic flights are planned to increase to 71 from 62, with capacity rising to 10,200 seats per day in each direction from 8,600.
Seats offered by AI on all its services from Delhi will increase to about 104,000 from 82,000 per week in each direction, up 25%.
For the past year, the carrier used Frankfurt to connect its flights with Europe and the U.S.; however, this proved to be expensive, Chairman and Managing Director Arvind Jadhav told Aviation Week a few months ago.
AI used a code-share agreement with its soon-to-be Star Alliance partner Lufthansa to give its passengers convenient connections to destinations in Germany, other points in Europe and the U.S via Frankfurt. At Frankfurt, a passenger flying from Delhi to Newark was transferred to the Mumbai-Newark flight, and a person traveling to Chicago from Mumbai changed to the Delhi-Chicago flight. AI will continue to run some flights to Frankfurt, but all flights connecting to the U.S. and some to Europe via Frankfurt will become direct from Delhi, which just opened a new Terminal 3 at the Delhi airport.
The hub decision will give Air India an opportunity for a makeover, Jadhav says. “This is part of our turnover plan. We expect long-term benefits of 15-20%.”
“The inauguration of T3 was a moment of pride ... for its national carrier, Air India. The airline is currently in the middle of implementing its turnaround plan, which aims at repositioning a fundamentally different carrier while also connecting maximum passengers through nonstop and one-stop routes to destinations on its network,” adds Jadhav
Air India says it will shift some of its international flights from its Frankfurt connecting hub to Delhi’s Indira Gandhi International Airport.
The service will start fully functioning by year-end 2011, once the airline’s domestic and international operations are fully integrated.
Air India (AI) will also start operating to new nonstop destinations — Melbourne, Toronto and Chicago — while resuming services to Seoul with the winter schedule. Paris and Tokyo are expected to become dailies.
With the planned increases, AI will operate 143 international services offering about 33,000 seats per week in each direction on routes from Delhi, up from 22,500 seats.
Domestically, AI’s operations from Delhi are being further strengthened to 47 domestic destinations with increased frequencies, as well as nonstop and direct services. Domestic flights are planned to increase to 71 from 62, with capacity rising to 10,200 seats per day in each direction from 8,600.
Seats offered by AI on all its services from Delhi will increase to about 104,000 from 82,000 per week in each direction, up 25%.
For the past year, the carrier used Frankfurt to connect its flights with Europe and the U.S.; however, this proved to be expensive, Chairman and Managing Director Arvind Jadhav told Aviation Week a few months ago.
AI used a code-share agreement with its soon-to-be Star Alliance partner Lufthansa to give its passengers convenient connections to destinations in Germany, other points in Europe and the U.S via Frankfurt. At Frankfurt, a passenger flying from Delhi to Newark was transferred to the Mumbai-Newark flight, and a person traveling to Chicago from Mumbai changed to the Delhi-Chicago flight. AI will continue to run some flights to Frankfurt, but all flights connecting to the U.S. and some to Europe via Frankfurt will become direct from Delhi, which just opened a new Terminal 3 at the Delhi airport.
The hub decision will give Air India an opportunity for a makeover, Jadhav says. “This is part of our turnover plan. We expect long-term benefits of 15-20%.”
“The inauguration of T3 was a moment of pride ... for its national carrier, Air India. The airline is currently in the middle of implementing its turnaround plan, which aims at repositioning a fundamentally different carrier while also connecting maximum passengers through nonstop and one-stop routes to destinations on its network,” adds Jadhav
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Exactly. Frankly I think some of those guys on the Irish forum on airliners.net have a lot to answer for, spewing rumours and counter rumours all the time. I have no doubt that some wise crack on there will now say that AI could also use Dublin for the occasional flight to the US or some ****e like that now that they will leave Frankfurt. I would get on and tell them myself but feel agrieved that I would have to pay for the pleasure. Really though, its a big DAA spin job over there on airliners.net Irish forum.
And dont get me started on the pre clearance gimmick, its a cheap one trick poney as far as im concerned - it might save you 10 mins total time on a good day.
Alright guys - how about Air Koryo to LAX via Dublin ? The IL62 has the legs for it....
And dont get me started on the pre clearance gimmick, its a cheap one trick poney as far as im concerned - it might save you 10 mins total time on a good day.
Alright guys - how about Air Koryo to LAX via Dublin ? The IL62 has the legs for it....
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IL62 to LAX from DUB Yeah ! - You just see the fairy's leaving their pots of gold at the end of the rainbow to catch the jettisoned JATO bottles after each T/O.
Its about as likely as AI operating transatlantic services through a hub at BHX. Come to think of it, the main RWY's are of broadly similar length. (OK I guess the TORA's at DUB are longer and less obstructed than BHX, with DUB at near sea level too). - I'm off to invent my JATO Bottle catcher.
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Its about as likely as AI operating transatlantic services through a hub at BHX. Come to think of it, the main RWY's are of broadly similar length. (OK I guess the TORA's at DUB are longer and less obstructed than BHX, with DUB at near sea level too). - I'm off to invent my JATO Bottle catcher.
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Irish Government to include the Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) (incl. Cork (CAA) & Shannon (SAA)) as well as Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) in review of potential State assets for sale
Review Group on State Assets and Liabilities - Department of Finance - Government of Ireland
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Review Group on State Assets and Liabilities - Department of Finance - Government of Ireland
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Looks like they are looking to sell off pretty well everything!
Personally I think they'll move on to some of our less productive counties after this, after maybe renaming them for sponsorship ("Emiratesligo", "Etihadonegal"?).
Personally I think they'll move on to some of our less productive counties after this, after maybe renaming them for sponsorship ("Emiratesligo", "Etihadonegal"?).
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Air India may use Dublin (T2 & US US Customs)
Air India's new european base will be decided by end of Augest.
They are in talks with:
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BIRMINGHAM
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T2 arrives with a lot of baggage - The Irish Times - Fri, Jul 23, 2010Air
They are in talks with:
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BIRMINGHAM
MADRID
T2 arrives with a lot of baggage - The Irish Times - Fri, Jul 23, 2010Air
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I think BHX will give us a run for our money. We have the edge with the customs clearance but BHX has a bigger catchment area. We shall see. I thought this issue was laid to rest... looks like its only just beginning! 
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The whole gag just doesnt add up. Currently BHX and DUB runway length just cant cut it (BHX runway is about 30-40m shorter than 28/10 in Dublin). There would have to be significant weight limitations on AI flights operating into and out of BHX and DUB. That doesnt wash with an International carrier performing regular commercial flights, critical to its operations. As I said before, they just wont accept that. As a slight aside, if anyone has witnesses Indians travelling they often seem to turn up at the airport with the kitchen sink and all and sundry, not exactly know for hand luggage only ! So it just doesnt add up.....something smells here. So based on this logic its a one horse race for Madrid.
Now the good people of the UK have their lights switched on and are currently extending the runway to 3,150m - however this is not due until 2012. At least they have started the ball rolling. Rest assured, the stupid Irish (I am Irish before anyway starts throwing fits) wont follow their lead. The politics is too complex and dirty in Ireland with the last emphasis on commercial viability and connectivity. Some bishop and farmer have called that Shannon must be protected at all costs even if it means 99% of us suffer as a result. So the politicians follow suit like drugged zombies, unable to display leadership or basic balls.
Now the good people of the UK have their lights switched on and are currently extending the runway to 3,150m - however this is not due until 2012. At least they have started the ball rolling. Rest assured, the stupid Irish (I am Irish before anyway starts throwing fits) wont follow their lead. The politics is too complex and dirty in Ireland with the last emphasis on commercial viability and connectivity. Some bishop and farmer have called that Shannon must be protected at all costs even if it means 99% of us suffer as a result. So the politicians follow suit like drugged zombies, unable to display leadership or basic balls.
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Don't forget that EK regularly uses (i.e. twice daily) BHX for flights to DXB; slightly shorter I realise, but I've been assured by a friend at EK that DUB's runway length would not be limiting for their ops; true, DUB-DEL/BOM is slightly longer, but still doable from 10/28. Don't forget also that not all flights would be 77W operated; 787s would probably be more common - and they'd have no problem using 28.
As to MAD having an advantage, don't forget that routing via MAD would be considerably longer, given the great circle route.
I agree that the runway should be extended, but whether the DAA is willing to do this, I don't know; basically, if they are serious in wanting AI, it needs to be part of the deal.
As to MAD having an advantage, don't forget that routing via MAD would be considerably longer, given the great circle route.
I agree that the runway should be extended, but whether the DAA is willing to do this, I don't know; basically, if they are serious in wanting AI, it needs to be part of the deal.
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Agreed on the B787, but carriers will always go with the limit criteria, as in whats the largest equipment that will serve the airport and therefore can this equipment meet the needs of a full service. The B773 is capable to the ME - Etihad did it during the ash cloud from DUB to AUH presumably on a once off. Weather that was load limited I dont know, in fairness I doubt it was as that would kind of defeat the purpose.
Im guessing if a runway extension was approved in the morning it would take at least 4 years to complete knowing the various qangos and hoops that would have to be jumped through. 2013/2014 is of little interest to AI, they would need it before. Perhaps that would even rule BHX out ?
Im guessing if a runway extension was approved in the morning it would take at least 4 years to complete knowing the various qangos and hoops that would have to be jumped through. 2013/2014 is of little interest to AI, they would need it before. Perhaps that would even rule BHX out ?
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Please guys I thing we have flooged the AI story to death. In August we will find out but please give it up. Lets just put that bone aside and move on, or at least pick another carrier to rumanate over.
One for you, from a well placed source who heard it from a high ranking official, that an existing carrier in DUB is to extend its new freighter operation to include DUB from the winter flying programme.
One for you, from a well placed source who heard it from a high ranking official, that an existing carrier in DUB is to extend its new freighter operation to include DUB from the winter flying programme.
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Good to see SAS expanding at Dublin too... SAS up early to pursue 'serious potential' here - The Irish Times - Fri, Jul 23, 2010
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SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINE (SAS) is considering expanding its services from Dublin airport this winter. They have added two extra flights between DUBLIN - Stockholm. They are also considering adding an early morning service to Copenhagen so an a/c will stay overnight in Dublin to serve the route six times a week.
SAS want to promote Copenhagen as a hub for Eastren Europe and Aisan flights.
Although Dublin, Brussels and Manchester are looking for the business SAS feel the DAA will support them on this expanction.
SAS up early to pursue 'serious potential' here - The Irish Times - Fri, Jul 23, 2010
SAS want to promote Copenhagen as a hub for Eastren Europe and Aisan flights.
Although Dublin, Brussels and Manchester are looking for the business SAS feel the DAA will support them on this expanction.
SAS up early to pursue 'serious potential' here - The Irish Times - Fri, Jul 23, 2010