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Old 4th Jun 2015, 18:07
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How come the Munich route doesnt end until the 10th of November?
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Old 5th Jun 2015, 00:21
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I've got rumour this evening that Shannon will soon be entering talks with an airline in regards to a route to Scotland. I'm afraid I don't have any further information, my source was very tight-lipped (But Optimistic) on the matter.

Aer Lingus were offered from what I understand on a SNN-DUS route a very good offer that will last as long as the Heathrow route stays in place. Whether EI take this offer up or instead opt for a more expensive ORK is yet to be seen.

There has been further talks between Shannon and the airport in Rhode Island. It seems no airlines are interested but both airports are willing to offer serious concessions.

The Shannon Airport Airshow looks to preform Exceptionally well this year, bookings this evening are far ahead of expectations. Everything is going smoothly at the moment.

The runway night run sold out extremely fast. Further tickets were later released to people on a waiting list. No more will be released as of this date but arrangements will be made for next year to try and maxamise the amount of places available as many people this year were left without a place.
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Old 6th Jun 2015, 09:52
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Originally Posted by AerRyan
I've got rumour this evening that Shannon will soon be entering talks with an airline in regards to a route to Scotland. I'm afraid I don't have any further information, my source was very tight-lipped (But Optimistic) on the matter.

Aer Lingus were offered from what I understand on a SNN-DUS route a very good offer that will last as long as the Heathrow route stays in place. Whether EI take this offer up or instead opt for a more expensive ORK is yet to be seen.

There has been further talks between Shannon and the airport in Rhode Island. It seems no airlines are interested but both airports are willing to offer serious concessions.

The Shannon Airport Airshow looks to preform Exceptionally well this year, bookings this evening are far ahead of expectations. Everything is going smoothly at the moment.

The runway night run sold out extremely fast. Further tickets were later released to people on a waiting list. No more will be released as of this date but arrangements will be made for next year to try and maxamise the amount of places available as many people this year were left without a place.
I would have thought they would be regularly talking to airlines re Scotland - I would expect this to be picked up for summer 2016 stobart or Flybe the likely candidates I would suspect
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Old 6th Jun 2015, 16:02
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Also expect expansion of AA's service to PHL for 2016. All going well, it may become year round. Other strong possibilities are that it may become a wide-body operation too.

I would have thought they would be regularly talking to airlines re Scotland - I would expect this to be picked up for summer 2016 stobart or Flybe the likely candidates I would suspect
I suppose they have been, but it seems these talks are more serious and formal. I agree with you, but its still hard to see at what frequency and to where. An Edinburgh service IMO can handle a 6x weekly ATR72-600 service, where as Glasgow would be more restricted to a 3x weekly Dash 4 service.

Stobart are also more likely to offer higher capacity/frequency than Flybe.
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Old 6th Jun 2015, 17:00
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3x weekly Dash 4 service.
Ooooh haven't seen a Caribou in ages, #excited
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Turkish Cargo

The Turkish Cargo service doesn't seem to be working out well at all, does it? I don't think it's been in for 6 or more weeks at this stage
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Old 7th Jun 2015, 19:21
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The Turkish Cargo service doesn't seem to be working out well at all, does it? I don't think it's been in for 6 or more weeks at this stage
It runs weekly on Fridays AFAIK.
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Old 7th Jun 2015, 20:39
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Originally Posted by mojave
The Turkish Cargo service doesn't seem to be working out well at all, does it? I don't think it's been in for 6 or more weeks at this stage
Winter only I thought. Airport dont want business away from summer United Chicago flight
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Originally Posted by fivejuliet
Winter only I thought. Airport dont want business away from summer United Chicago flight
First I've heard of it.
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Old 7th Jun 2015, 22:15
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Winter only I thought. Airport dont want business away from summer United Chicago flight
I really can't see an airline agreeing such terms. Why would they do SNN such favors. Perhaps there is nothing worth picking up to stop for?
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Old 8th Jun 2015, 20:39
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Im sure this has been discussed before and a valid reason given, but why dont Aer Lingus operate a short-haul service using the 757? Just delay eg JFK by an hour.

EG, (All irish time.)

JFK-SNN EI111 arrives in SNN at 06:00.
Depart SNN-CDG 07:00-9:00
Depart CDG-SNN 10:00-12:00
SNN-JFK 13:00

Why isn't this a reality at the moment?
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Old 8th Jun 2015, 21:00
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I know 75s need alot more TLC than A320s or 737 NGs. Maybe EI are leaving slack in the schedule to allow for line maintenance to fix the daily snags these older aircraft run into.

Making a 757 short haul route profitable is harder than the newer narrow bodies. A 757 to CDG would have expensive fares, which would only suit business people wanting to fly direct to Paris and those connecting through CDG. Many point to point would use either FR to BVA or fly through DUB.

Also, with EI now IAG bound, I don't expect they'll want to funnel pax through a rival's hub as opposed to their big 4 (DUB, BCN, LHR, MAD)
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Old 8th Jun 2015, 21:51
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I think you'll find guv'nor that would prioritise as LHR, MAD, BCN, DUB, by a distance - but I do admire ur aspiration!
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Old 8th Jun 2015, 22:04
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I only used CDG as an example.

As regards the 757, would having 1 getting maintenance not be sufficient. There is 2 757's based in SNN, so if they alternate daily eg 1 does JFK+Shorthaul route and the other does BOS+Maintenance and they switch every day? Also JFK is only 6x weekly (exceptions made in the summer season eg tomorrow) so extra maintenance could be completed on the Tuesday.
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Old 8th Jun 2015, 22:24
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Originally Posted by OneBellEnd
I think you'll find guv'nor that would prioritise as LHR, MAD, BCN, DUB, by a distance - but I do admire ur aspiration!
While I agree with you re the whole group, with Shannon specifically, I think it'll be DUB and LHR respectively, and the other 2 through DUB seeing as the other 2 aren't connected to SNN.

In the original post, I didn't mean to list them respectively in terms of priority, apologies for any confusion
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Old 8th Jun 2015, 22:27
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Originally Posted by AerRyan
I only used CDG as an example.

As regards the 757, would having 1 getting maintenance not be sufficient. There is 2 757's based in SNN, so if they alternate daily eg 1 does JFK+Shorthaul route and the other does BOS+Maintenance and they switch every day? Also JFK is only 6x weekly (exceptions made in the summer season eg tomorrow) so extra maintenance could be completed on the Tuesday.
I was more thinking of day to day snags. Look at it this way, the YYZ-DUB sits Idle for 5 or 6 hours in DUB, don't you think EI would rotate it through LHR if it was worth it? The fuel burn, combined with maintenance, makes it uneconomic. The Atlantic flights pay the bills, if the schedule starts getting regularly delayed, EI will suffer.

I'd love to see a CDG, FRA or AMS link in SNN, but a 757 is way too much aircraft don't you think? an A319 or Embraer would be far more suitable IMO
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Old 9th Jun 2015, 07:29
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The Aer Lingus 757 in its current transatlantic configuration only seats 177 passengers, an A320 can do the same job with 174 seats at a much, much lower cost. It's just not economical for short haul, even more so when you compare it to the 212 seat A321, admittedly rarely based at SNN but would be taken into account when looking at the wider short haul network.
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Old 9th Jun 2015, 07:42
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Shamrock350, it depends how you look at it. In relation to 174 seat 757 being higher cost. If the tickets cab be sold on a sun route at a fair price nothing to say the 757 in this configuration couldnt work. The is a opportunity cost here in terms of say getting a 320 in to Shannon for such a route and hence other revenue potentially bring eroded ex Dublin. That is assuming there are no surplus 320s, won't be the case for long...

However, what's to stop the utilisation of the 757 being increased? Why not turn it around and fly at different times? Would mean that the flight wouldnt be at the same time every day?
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Old 10th Jun 2015, 19:52
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Passenger numbers up 5% in May, with Transatlantic traffic being the largest growth area. Commercial Movements down 15% as a result of the loss of the Stobart base.
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Old 17th Jun 2015, 21:35
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Birmingham resumes tomorrow great to have it back in the Flightradar 24 listings .

Expect passenger numbers to be up for June and July due to the sun routes doing very well. People are beginning to book holidays again on the back of a slight economic recovery and awful weather with no sign of improvement. My sister works at a travel agents and says she hasnt been so busy since she started (2010). Bad summer weather=Good summer for airports.
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