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Does it matter now when we get those figures with the way they COOK the books who can or will believe them
Just read else where that the pax from the Xmas flights cannot be counted because passengers did not pay landing charges.
did you find some kind of reliable source that might actually matter?
In the absence of independent confirmation I will wait until the CSO publishes its data.
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Guys and girls could we not just say well done to all concerned in Snn for turning the corner we do too much knocking in this country . People are doing their best to make a living putting in time and effort .let's hope 2014 is good for all who rely on Snn for their livelihood to educate and bring up their family .
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Congratulations to all working in Shannon, well deserved! Hopefully it signifies turning a corner, and the Santa flights were terrific, local schools and children in need seemed to love it
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Does anyone know for sure that the growth in pax numbers at Shannon was due to the Santa flights? Anyone not think it could be from the bad weather in December and all the flights that were diverted to SNN from DUB & ORK? Or what about the 4 new routes that were launched during 2013?
Your all speculating.
We will wait until the Dec 13 stats come out in March!
Agree with Boeing Man, we do too much knocking in this country.
Your all speculating.
We will wait until the Dec 13 stats come out in March!Agree with Boeing Man, we do too much knocking in this country.
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Agree with Boeing Man, we do too much knocking in this country.
There isn't much transparency in this country so people have every right to when question the figures. There is no smoke without fire or in this case no passenger increase without Santa flights. Up to October 1,214,775 pax used the airport. Now if you took the 2012 figures of November and December that would add 173,854 passengers which would take it to 1,388,629 for 2013 so do people believe that November and December actual numbers took it to 1,400,032 that would be growth of just under 11,500 passengers when Aer Lingus took out over 1,260 seats from LHR per week for most of that period, Aer Arann based a 42 instead of a 72. I don't recall increase by FR. Take the Santa flights away (if they were counted) and you have next to no increase in numbers overall for the year. Yes terminal passengers excluding the Santa flights may be up for the last two months year on year but the annual number wouldn't be.
You don't count diverted flights as majority just landed too some fuel and returned to airports.
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Aer Lingus hopefully might pop down with an A320 for a few cloud spotting flights,
Sure why not use the A333 instead!!
Agree with Boeing Man, we do too much knocking in this country.
There isn't much transparency in this country so people have every right to when question the figures. There is no smoke without fire or in this case no passenger increase without Santa flights. Up to October 1,214,775 pax used the airport. Now if you took the 2012 figures of November and December that would add 173,854 passengers which would take it to 1,388,629 for 2013 so do people believe that November and December actual numbers took it to 1,400,032 that would be growth of just under 11,500 passengers when Aer Lingus took out over 1,260 seats from LHR per week for most of that period, Aer Arann based a 42 instead of a 72. I don't recall increase by FR. Take the Santa flights away (if they were counted) and you have next to no increase in numbers overall for the year. Yes terminal passengers excluding the Santa flights may be up for the last two months year on year but the annual number wouldn't be.
You don't count diverted flights as majority just landed too some fuel and returned to airports.
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Aer Lingus hopefully might pop down with an A320 for a few cloud spotting flights,
Sure why not use the A333 instead!!
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Yes but they wouldn't of being in the airport as they returned to airports or had buses, they didn't pass through the airport. It would only be reflected in the airport movements. Even if they were counted as passengers it's just the airport artificially release positive figures to the media. The 11,500 passenger figure could probably easily be completely made up of the Santa and the diverted flights.
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Less FR flights from October on that were little publicised too, only 1 STN rotation on some days and no LGW flights on Tues or Thurs either. Granted there were extra London flights over xmas to both airports.
On the diversions, if pax are offloaded and are bussed out of SNN then they are counted.
On the diversions, if pax are offloaded and are bussed out of SNN then they are counted.
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Shannon by its nature is often a first alternate for many Irish flights. If ye all want to be utterly pedantic about this then ye will need to know how many diversions SNN took in 2012 before you can draw comparissons with traffic figures for 2013. I couldnt be bothered but some of you seem to have nothong better to do.
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The only people who will look "utterly pedantic" is the airport and management if they had to count the Santa flights. SNN usually gets a lot of diversions per year at times but there is no way 11,500 pax were made up over 8 weeks and the majority of diverts only picked up fuel and at the same time SNN lost some flights to other airports as well. The capacity was not there in the last two months for much growth to come. They are only mugging themselves and the media off.
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Sure why not use the A333 instead!!
Couple of them cloud spotting flights down here in Cork on the A333 and I'm telling you we'd be numbers level on 2012!
Sure why not use the A333 instead!!
Couple of them cloud spotting flights down here in Cork on the A333 and I'm telling you we'd be numbers level on 2012!
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To be honest I'm slightly worried how airport figures have grown by just under 6,000 passengers when new routes were added to Alicante (twice weekly - Ryanair), Chicago (Daily - United), Faro (thrice weekly - Aer Lingus), Lanzarote (weekly - Aer Lingus) and Philadelphia (daily - US Airways). Extra Aer Lingus flights to LHR for peak Xmas. And those cringe worthy efforts using the Ryanair Santa flights, granted it was for a good cause but my god.
Yet all that generated under 6k extra passenger? WOW
Let's hope for Shannon's sake they didn't include the diversions and Santa flights, otherwise somethings bleeding fast.
My question is what services have suffered? Look forward to the release of detailed figures alright.
Hilarious people are congratulating the management, for what haha?
We might actually see growth down here then! 
Yet all that generated under 6k extra passenger? WOW
Let's hope for Shannon's sake they didn't include the diversions and Santa flights, otherwise somethings bleeding fast. My question is what services have suffered? Look forward to the release of detailed figures alright.
Hilarious people are congratulating the management, for what haha?
Lets go the whole hog and get an A380
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.To be honest I'm slightly worried how airport figures have grown by just under 6,000 passengers when new routes were added to Alicante (twice weekly - Ryanair), Chicago (Daily - United), Faro (thrice weekly - Aer Lingus), Lanzarote (weekly - Aer Lingus) and Philadelphia (daily - US Airways). Extra Aer Lingus flights to LHR for peak Xmas. And those cringe worthy efforts using the Ryanair Santa flights, granted it was for a good cause but my god.
SNN-RNS & BRS were dropped last year. EIR used a 42 instead of a 72 for a lot of last year. SNN LHR was also being operated by an 319 instead of a 320 for the last 3 months of 2013.
There was a reduction in flights as well last year.