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Old 22nd Apr 2015, 20:46
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Any chance of a SNN-AMS route ever materialising?
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Old 23rd Apr 2015, 08:17
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It's hard to see who would operate it.

There are good reasons why Aer Lingus and KLM wouldn't, while Ryanair don't fly to Amsterdam (although I wouldn't rule out Eindhoven).

Transavia seem the only real option, but they would be completely dependent on point to point traffic and aren't really known in Ireland, which couldn't help them.
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Originally Posted by 840
It's hard to see who would operate it.

There are good reasons why Aer Lingus and KLM wouldn't, while Ryanair don't fly to Amsterdam (although I wouldn't rule out Eindhoven).

Transavia seem the only real option, but they would be completely dependent on point to point traffic and aren't really known in Ireland, which couldn't help them.
Any pax from the south west heading to AMS will already be going via ORK or DUB with EI, who have the code share with KLM, who along with AF own Transavia. Can't see it happening due that.
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Old 23rd Apr 2015, 22:59
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What about the west, the cities of Limerick and Galway combined with their satilitee towns as well as Clare, north tipp and other places north, I'd say one would do well.

Its completely off the cards with EI, KLM (stupidly) only allows 2 codeshares per country/airline. (Don't know which). So its up to KLM and they haven't been known for their rapid expansion since merging with AF.

If Ryanair ever get into AMS, I'd say Shannon would be one of its first routes.
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 07:25
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What about the west, the cities of Limerick and Galway combined with their satilitee towns as well as Clare, north tipp and other places north, I'd say one would do well.

Its completely off the cards with EI, KLM (stupidly) only allows 2 codeshares per country/airline. (Don't know which). So its up to KLM and they haven't been known for their rapid expansion since merging with AF.

If Ryanair ever get into AMS, I'd say Shannon would be one of its first routes.
I do think it would be a profitable route for someone on the right size aircraft, I just don't see anybody launching one to AMS soon, as has been said due to who deals with/owns who etc.
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 09:30
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The big unknown is what happens with the potential IAG takeover of Aer Lingus.

If that goes ahead, the parent company may not be so keen on Aer Lingus being a feeder for KLM services out of Amsterdam.

That could see KLM re-enter the Irish market in its own right, and with that a possible route to Shannon.

There's an awful lot of unknowns, ifs, coulds and possibles in all that though.
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Old 2nd May 2015, 15:12
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Deltas service to JFK resumed today along with Falcon Holidays service to Palma, Mallorca.
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what airline operated the Falcon flight?
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Old 2nd May 2015, 17:55
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Originally Posted by cloudier
what airline operated the Falcon flight?
Air Europa operate the Mallorca and Lanzarote flight and Air Contractors operate the Reus flight.
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Aer Lingus will be meeting with Shannon Airport management about a possible Düsseldorf route next Thursday.
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That would be a great addition to the network hopefully it will work out and be year round weren't cork looking for that are lingus route for some time the independent had it the other day cork hopes to close a deal on a new German route in the next few months
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Old 8th May 2015, 21:51
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Originally Posted by gavinhicks
That would be a great addition to the network hopefully it will work out and be year round weren't cork looking for that are lingus route for some time the independent had it the other day cork hopes to close a deal on a new German route in the next few months
Until Passenger charges at Cork are cut, I'd say EI won't be adding anything new.
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That would be a great addition to the network hopefully it will work out and be year round weren't cork looking for that are lingus route for some time the independent had it the other day cork hopes to close a deal on a new German route in the next few months
Year round, not a chance, very low remote chance for summer 2016 to as Cork will get it...
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Originally Posted by Jamie2k9
Year round, not a chance, very low remote chance for summer 2016 to as Cork will get it...
Considering that talks are scheduled for Thursday, I'd say that your speaking out of your hole by saying there's a "very low remote chance for summer 2016"
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Considering that talks are scheduled for Thursday, I'd say that your speaking out of your hole by saying there's a "very low remote chance for summer 2016"
Yes because EI are going to cancel some flights to accommodate a new and low yielding route during the two annual quarters which they make the money.

You never know they may even announce it as daily or even 2 daily starting in November on Friday

Need to look at EI's strategy.
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I am completely unaware of where the capacity are coming from.

But EI are entering talks. Have you not read my posts already?
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I am completely unaware of where the capacity are coming from.

But EI are entering talks. Have you not read my posts already?
And all I said there is a very low chance of it happening, I'm sure EI talks lots but very rarely does it deliver results.
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Old 8th May 2015, 23:53
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You forget that the 2 buses are back from the MAN LR deal. The other 2 will return in Septemver but I'm not sure will they go back to the lessor. EI are actively looking for work, believe it or not.

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Old 9th May 2015, 08:11
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American Airlines resumed their extended Philadelphia service yesterday. The special thing about it is that its the first time its being operated by an AA aircraft and under an American callsign.
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It's very "special" when you claim they're resuming something they're doing for the first time, that's the sort of analysis we love on here....

Two aircraft returning, EI-DEI/O were ex mainline but the remaining two have never seen EI colours, no need for all four to come back in winter!
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