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Wowboy - Enjoy your posts but please try to get your facts right.
Ryanair are not pulling out of Newquay - I just booked flights in June. Monarch were only ever running a short season anyway and are now considering longer I believe!
Ryanair are not pulling out of Newquay - I just booked flights in June. Monarch were only ever running a short season anyway and are now considering longer I believe!
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I took a flight from Dublin to Newquay last saturday. The Dash 8 was a bit long in the tooth but I thouroughly enjoyed the slowish (compared to a jet) climb over Dublin city at a low altitude. My first time in a turboprop out of Dublin actually.
From an Irish point of view its was real handy compared to having to drive from Bristol. I believe Air Southwest are going to be spending a bit of money promoting the area in Ireland so that should sustain it, the hostie told me they are getting about 25 people a day. She was real nice too
Long may it continue
From an Irish point of view its was real handy compared to having to drive from Bristol. I believe Air Southwest are going to be spending a bit of money promoting the area in Ireland so that should sustain it, the hostie told me they are getting about 25 people a day. She was real nice too
Long may it continue
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I saw on tonights BBC local news Spotlight that Cornwall CC have admitted that it will take Newquay 5 years to break even financially and they to hit the 600,000 passengers a year double its current number todo this.CCC are now being seen to eat their words when they said they did not need JCA and could run the airport as they had airlines queing upto operate out of the airport.Well at this rate Newquay Airport will be joining RAF St Mawgan if this council dont start getting their fingers out.But then a council running an airport !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Now here is a question for the lawyers. If the Council fails to develop the airport and it does eventually close does that mean that all those punters that paid a £5 development fee might have a legal right to ask for it back?
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Airport to name lounge after DJ
BBC News + Radio 1
A departure lounge at Cornwall's airport is to be renamed after a BBC Radio 1 DJ following a campaign by presenter Scott Mills. Newquay Airport has decided to rename its departure lounge after popular DJ Jo Whiley.
No one from Newquay Airport was available for comment but Radio 1 confirmed the news on their website.
No such thing as bad publicity!
BBC News + Radio 1
A departure lounge at Cornwall's airport is to be renamed after a BBC Radio 1 DJ following a campaign by presenter Scott Mills. Newquay Airport has decided to rename its departure lounge after popular DJ Jo Whiley.
No one from Newquay Airport was available for comment but Radio 1 confirmed the news on their website.
No such thing as bad publicity!
, apparently Blackpool airport were going to name an aircraft after her too
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Perhaps the Beeb will sponsor the new hardstanding that has just been laid down at great expense. Apparently, the local environmental health people will not allow aircraft to use it as there is no drainage in the event of a fuel spillage. Sounds like a bit of a major own goal by the local councils as they must have commisioned and then approved the plans and once the work was done sign off the project!
So using the hardstanding as an advertising hoarding seems the only option left - its cock all use for much else!
So using the hardstanding as an advertising hoarding seems the only option left - its cock all use for much else!
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I rest my case when it comes to CCC. Thats not the first own goal CCC have made. Thinking they can run the airport without the RAF was the biggest one and it is slowly coming back to haunt them bit by bit.
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Once the RAF move out of St Mawgan Newquay Airport will become another Manston, a large airfield but without the catchment area to justify it. What Manston has in it's favour is that it is ideally placed for weather diversions from the London area and the close continent whereas St Mawgan, well it might attract a St. Just, Penzance helicopter or PLH diversion but that's about it and it is a very much larger airfield than Manston, it has the widest runway, 9000ft x 300ft, in the country and with the tower etc. on the RAF side.
What Cornwall needs is a centrally located modest airport, perhaps a 7000ft runway but a longer one might be convenient for the occasional fuel stop before a heavy crosses the pond, a modest terminal, perhaps a freight facility, and with good road and perhaps rail connections and not a bl00dy great airfield & RAF camp the size of St. Mawgan, particularly one at an elevation of some 600ft.
So why not develop somewhere like the former RAF Portreath:
http://www.multimap.com/map/photo.cg...&scal e=25000
OK, it seems to have about 4 runways but from the pic it appears only one runway has been maintained, a cross runway is always handy for crosswind conditions, but development can be concentrated on a tailor made commercial airport rather than an RAF base with a civilian terminal as far away as possible.
Portreath is about 2 miles off the A30 and about 3 miles from a railway line and Redruth station, it is in a non built up area and has approaches over the sea.
If the RAF are to pull the plug on St Mawgan then perhaps it might be the right time for Cornwall's airport to make a clean break and start anew.
I would like to add that it was only from reading this thread that I just learnt of Bill Bryce's death last year. Having worked for Bill in the pre BA days of Brymon I would like to say that he was a character, all be it sometimes a short tempered character, but he was a good guy and with a heart of gold and he did a lot for aviation, in his own unique way, for Devon and Cornwall. Rest in peace WRB!
Bill Bryce and Chris Amon, 2 Newzealanders created Brymon Airways. Amon was the number one Ferrari Grand Prix driver in the 60`s.
Brymon’s first schedule was from Newquay to the Scilly Isles in 1972 using an Islander aircraft
Brymon were the first UK operator of the Twin Otter from 1974
They bought the Newquay-London Heathrow route in 1977 from Michael Bishop for £200,000 using Herald aircraft
Bryce, the ex journalist and farmer helped to build the new runway at Plymouth in 1981
In 1982 Brymon`s test pilot flew the Dash-7 into Heron`s Quay before the airport was built that was to become London City Airport, named by the Plymouth airline
Bryce sold the airline in 1983 to an ex British Airways manager, Charles Stuart
What Cornwall needs is a centrally located modest airport, perhaps a 7000ft runway but a longer one might be convenient for the occasional fuel stop before a heavy crosses the pond, a modest terminal, perhaps a freight facility, and with good road and perhaps rail connections and not a bl00dy great airfield & RAF camp the size of St. Mawgan, particularly one at an elevation of some 600ft.
So why not develop somewhere like the former RAF Portreath:
http://www.multimap.com/map/photo.cg...&scal e=25000
OK, it seems to have about 4 runways but from the pic it appears only one runway has been maintained, a cross runway is always handy for crosswind conditions, but development can be concentrated on a tailor made commercial airport rather than an RAF base with a civilian terminal as far away as possible.
Portreath is about 2 miles off the A30 and about 3 miles from a railway line and Redruth station, it is in a non built up area and has approaches over the sea.
If the RAF are to pull the plug on St Mawgan then perhaps it might be the right time for Cornwall's airport to make a clean break and start anew.
I would like to add that it was only from reading this thread that I just learnt of Bill Bryce's death last year. Having worked for Bill in the pre BA days of Brymon I would like to say that he was a character, all be it sometimes a short tempered character, but he was a good guy and with a heart of gold and he did a lot for aviation, in his own unique way, for Devon and Cornwall. Rest in peace WRB!
Bill Bryce and Chris Amon, 2 Newzealanders created Brymon Airways. Amon was the number one Ferrari Grand Prix driver in the 60`s.
Brymon’s first schedule was from Newquay to the Scilly Isles in 1972 using an Islander aircraft
Brymon were the first UK operator of the Twin Otter from 1974
They bought the Newquay-London Heathrow route in 1977 from Michael Bishop for £200,000 using Herald aircraft
Bryce, the ex journalist and farmer helped to build the new runway at Plymouth in 1981
In 1982 Brymon`s test pilot flew the Dash-7 into Heron`s Quay before the airport was built that was to become London City Airport, named by the Plymouth airline
Bryce sold the airline in 1983 to an ex British Airways manager, Charles Stuart
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"What Cornwall needs is a centrally located modest airport, perhaps a 7000ft runway but a longer one might be convenient for the occasional fuel stop before a heavy crosses the pond, a modest terminal, perhaps a freight facility, and with good road and perhaps rail connections and not a bl00dy great airfield & RAF camp the size of St. Mawgan, particularly one at an elevation of some 600ft.
So why not develop somewhere like the former RAF Portreath: "
A centrally located airport might be a good idea, but you could hardly call Portreath central. St Mawgan fits that bill far better. True, it might be a large airfield, but surely if you want to develop an airport, and one that includes features such as a freight facility, then space and hangarage is what you need. With the improvements to the A30 currently in progress, road links for St Mawgan will better those of Portreath. Agreed the local rail connection is paltry, but surely that is not a major consideration here?
Bear in mind that it is only the airfield that the MOD is disposing of, not the whole station. And the elevation is actually less than 400ft at its highest point.
I realise that you mentioned Portreath as an example only, but as an aside, it is also the site of Nancekuke, which as a former Chemical Defence Site responsible for the production of nerve agents, might not make it first choice for a regional airport!
So why not develop somewhere like the former RAF Portreath: "
A centrally located airport might be a good idea, but you could hardly call Portreath central. St Mawgan fits that bill far better. True, it might be a large airfield, but surely if you want to develop an airport, and one that includes features such as a freight facility, then space and hangarage is what you need. With the improvements to the A30 currently in progress, road links for St Mawgan will better those of Portreath. Agreed the local rail connection is paltry, but surely that is not a major consideration here?
Bear in mind that it is only the airfield that the MOD is disposing of, not the whole station. And the elevation is actually less than 400ft at its highest point.
I realise that you mentioned Portreath as an example only, but as an aside, it is also the site of Nancekuke, which as a former Chemical Defence Site responsible for the production of nerve agents, might not make it first choice for a regional airport!
Having just made my first visit to NQY via BMI Baby, have to say a bit disappointed.
Firstly an airfield approach aid failing in very poor vis, resulting in holding for 20 minutes. Then having landed, being kept on board for a further 30 minutes, due to NQY only handling one aircraft at a time.
A £5 fee charged to use the arrivals/departure sheds takes the biscuit.
On departure, nobody at the gate checked boarding cards with any ID which I thought was a UK DoT regulation. Even then, a lady bound with WOW to LGW mangaged to board the flight to MAN, fortunately, at least the Baby crew were on the ball - even though they looked slightly bored.
NQY, probably not top of my list to revisit unless it was absolutely essential. Hope you spend my fiver wisely !!
Firstly an airfield approach aid failing in very poor vis, resulting in holding for 20 minutes. Then having landed, being kept on board for a further 30 minutes, due to NQY only handling one aircraft at a time.
A £5 fee charged to use the arrivals/departure sheds takes the biscuit.
On departure, nobody at the gate checked boarding cards with any ID which I thought was a UK DoT regulation. Even then, a lady bound with WOW to LGW mangaged to board the flight to MAN, fortunately, at least the Baby crew were on the ball - even though they looked slightly bored.
NQY, probably not top of my list to revisit unless it was absolutely essential. Hope you spend my fiver wisely !!
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Raven,
I'm aware of the chemical background of Portreath thus why perhaps ideal for a commercial development rather than perhaps a housing development!
Hear what you say about St. Mawgan regarding hangarage & Freight but just look at the location of the hangars to the pax terminal, if you were starting from scratch would you not put them next door to each other?
The railway, indeed any public transport, features in any airport development & growth. When they rebuilt Stansted they put a railway line & station in and let's face it, holidaymakers flying to NQY are leaving their cars at home, costs of taxi's etc. may persuade them that it's cheaper to take the car than to fly.
Changing the subject slightly, I can recall the days of when jetfoils operated from Ramsgate to Ostend, 90 minutes compared to 4+ hours by ship but the punters destination wasn't Ostend, in the same complex as Ostend harbour was the train station and it was an optimum route for getting to the continent.
NQY is trying to attract punters destination Cornwall, not necessarily destination Newquay, thus there need to be public transport connections.
PF
I'm aware of the chemical background of Portreath thus why perhaps ideal for a commercial development rather than perhaps a housing development!
Hear what you say about St. Mawgan regarding hangarage & Freight but just look at the location of the hangars to the pax terminal, if you were starting from scratch would you not put them next door to each other?
The railway, indeed any public transport, features in any airport development & growth. When they rebuilt Stansted they put a railway line & station in and let's face it, holidaymakers flying to NQY are leaving their cars at home, costs of taxi's etc. may persuade them that it's cheaper to take the car than to fly.
Changing the subject slightly, I can recall the days of when jetfoils operated from Ramsgate to Ostend, 90 minutes compared to 4+ hours by ship but the punters destination wasn't Ostend, in the same complex as Ostend harbour was the train station and it was an optimum route for getting to the continent.
NQY is trying to attract punters destination Cornwall, not necessarily destination Newquay, thus there need to be public transport connections.
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Mr A Tis,
Understand the frustration at having to hold for 20 mins, but equipment failure is unavoidable, and hardly the fault of Newquay, as RAF St Mawgan provide all airfield and nav aids. I'm sure that holding while waiting for the kit to come back up is preferable to making an approach in what was very poor weather, with no approach aid. Safety first...
As for your other comments on the terminal, can't really comment other than to say that whilst the situation needs to improve as regards passenger handling, the staff have an unenviable task, and like most operations run on a tight budget, there are going to be problems at peak times. Not an excuse, and I'm no expert on their ops but the problem as I see it is one of financial constraints. They are still not geared up to handle multiple arrivals and departures efficiently.
Phileas,
In an ideal world, a new centrally located airport would be a sound plan, however we do not live in an ideal world, and working with what is physically and financially available is the next best thing. On that basis, you have to adapt existing assets. The hangars south side would be ideal for a cargo operation, or even as a displaced servicing location for Air SouthWest, for example. I have no idea what is planned for future development, but if I were asked, then I would suggest relocating the passenger operations south side. This would provide the co-location you mention, and improve the road access. All these points will be decided by someone much higher up the food chain than me, so my musings are just that!! Until the MOD relinquishes control of the real estate, then this is all conjecture anyway.
Raven
Understand the frustration at having to hold for 20 mins, but equipment failure is unavoidable, and hardly the fault of Newquay, as RAF St Mawgan provide all airfield and nav aids. I'm sure that holding while waiting for the kit to come back up is preferable to making an approach in what was very poor weather, with no approach aid. Safety first...
As for your other comments on the terminal, can't really comment other than to say that whilst the situation needs to improve as regards passenger handling, the staff have an unenviable task, and like most operations run on a tight budget, there are going to be problems at peak times. Not an excuse, and I'm no expert on their ops but the problem as I see it is one of financial constraints. They are still not geared up to handle multiple arrivals and departures efficiently.
Phileas,
In an ideal world, a new centrally located airport would be a sound plan, however we do not live in an ideal world, and working with what is physically and financially available is the next best thing. On that basis, you have to adapt existing assets. The hangars south side would be ideal for a cargo operation, or even as a displaced servicing location for Air SouthWest, for example. I have no idea what is planned for future development, but if I were asked, then I would suggest relocating the passenger operations south side. This would provide the co-location you mention, and improve the road access. All these points will be decided by someone much higher up the food chain than me, so my musings are just that!! Until the MOD relinquishes control of the real estate, then this is all conjecture anyway.
Raven
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Has anyone any info' on the delays at NQY today which appear to be averaging between 1 and 2 hours for all airlines and are much worse than yesterday. For a tinpot little airport which is hoping to raise £20 Mill of public money for expansion they are certainly making hard work of things at the moment.