LONDON CITY

[WHBM]

That's the departure I saw. How does that square with the airport's ops hours, of closed 1230 Sat to 1230 Sun ?

Just curious.

[AlanM]

They had an extension til 1300L:

AIP:
Winter: † Mon-Fri 0630-2200; Sat 0630-1230; Sun 1230-2200; PH 0900-2200.
Summer: † Mon-Fri 0530-2100; Sat 0530-1130; Sun 1130-2100; PH 0800-2100.

BUT:
Hours are maximum permitted for scheduling purposes. Latest NOTAM defines seasonal
operational hours. Refer to AD 2.20 item 1 c.

WHICH SAYS:
Extensions to opening hours (shown by the latest NOTAM) are available on request to the Airport Director or his representative. Delayed aircraft may be permitted to operate 30 minutes beyond published maximum operating hours shown at AD 2.3 item 1 by prior arrangement. In respect of the most exceptional operational circumstances where aircraft may be permitted to depart after 2230(local) by the Airport Managing Director, pilots should note that there will be no Approach Radar service available after 2245(local).

[virginblue]

New airline at LCY

Starting 15DEC06, there will be two weekly flights to Sion by "AlpWings", a new Swiss airline operating an ERJ135. Never heard of the outfit - they have a .com website (not sure if I am allowed to provide a link here).

Flight times are FrSu Sion 1500 - 1615 LCY 1645 - 1800 Sion

On Saturday, there will be two flights to/from LGW, btw.

Does the ERJ135 need modifiications to be able to operate into LCY ? If so, the only suitable ERJ135s would be the two Luxair examples and the former Jetmagic bird.

[juninho12]

virginblue

I've done a bit of research regarding these folks. They are based (as in HQd) in Zermatt, which is quite a bit in the woods compared to Sion (don't know the rationale behind that).

Apparently, flights are to be operated by Cirrus, with the airline planning to increase flights on the longrun.

Prices for these flights come out to 1119 CHF (471GBP, 703EUR) return or 615CHF (259GBP, 387EUR) one-way and include the transfer to any resort in the Valais.

Hope they've got some corporate contracts or good contacts with people who are well off, those prices are hardly going to attract the masses (far from it!). Wish them loads of success though.

[Ed666]

Would I be right in thinking that FlyBaboo did charter flights to Sion last winter?

[virginblue]

Originally Posted by juninho12

I've done a bit of research regarding these folks. They are based (as in HQd) in Zermatt, which is quite a bit in the woods compared to Sion (don't know the rationale behind that).

The three people behind the airline are from the tourism industry and from Zermatt. The airline appears to be more or less a spin-off.

Originally Posted by juninho12

Apparently, flights are to be operated by Cirrus, with the airline planning to increase flights on the longrun.

Hmm, interesting. Cirrus Airlines does not have any ERJ135. Cirrus Aviation, the biz operator, has a Embraer Legacy, but it is in corporate layout.


Doesn't Flybe operate charters from LGW to Sion as well ?

[wantabe_crew]

London City Strikes Again

So 2 airlines, 2 x 146 a/c and all have tyres that burst on landing at LCY a day after each other!
Is LCY runway safe?
Are these pilots just landing to hard?
What are the CAA or AAIB doing about this?

Anyone have any ideas before LCY goes for the record and make it 3 a/c, and 3 days after each other?

[ebenezer]

What are the CAA doing about this?

Giving approval for the Airbus 319 to operate into the airport.

[Skipness One Echo]

Wow anyone else think wantabe_crew is a journo?
Shock horror plane bursts tyre in ruber flying fiasco
Hold the press

[wantabe_crew]

no not a journo, just a crew member who thinks about not only my safety but all crew and pax, we had to divert to STN last night because of this and hold the night before!

What happens next time will the fire crews get to play lets put out a fire!!

Some thing has to be done?

[pamann]

Some thing has to be done?

Ermmm....

Take a chill pill, it's a burst tyre for gods sake!

[wantabe_crew]

YOU MEAN 2 BURST TYRES!

Ya I can take the pill!!

But 3 tyres in 2 days can you say that the runways is safe?

CC89 may have something to say about crew safety on this?

Any union reps out there who comment?

[Traffic is...]

Two events in two days does seem a bit uncanny, but I think you're getting a bit excitable to start suggesting the runway is unsafe. Having a quick look at the CAA stats and there were about 7500 movements in July and about 8000 in June at LCY. How many incidents happened over those 15000 movements? I hazard a guess at very few. Put it into perspective.

[George Tower]

This poster has obviously never flown in Africa where the state of airports leaves something to be desired.
I'm sorry but your question is contemptuous and deserves to be treated as such. London City is an amazing little airport. We're talking about two burst tyres for goodness sakes....you obviously here to cause some rubbish.

no not a journo, just a crew member who thinks about not only my safety but all crew and pax, we had to divert to STN last night because of this and hold the night before!

boo hoo hoo you had to hold and divert.......thats all part of running a safe operation, sh1t happens and you plan accordingly. Again it doesnt make LCY unsafe.

[Buster the Bear]

If the CAA have, or are ever likely to permit A319 operations into London City, my fur will turn pink!

I think you mean A318, only a single number wrong, but a totally different aircraft.

Is London City safe? Two tyre bursts and it is not? Swiss bent a 146, far more serious than a flat Dunlop.

Yes it is a safe airport, with safe procedures and safe crew flying the planes in and out.

[HS-125]

It was the same aircraft that was involved in both of these incidents, and also same wheel bogie.

Coincidence? I doubt it - just a technical problem with the aircraft. So next time, instead of jumping the gun - look at the facts.