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With 32 routes I think this makes Liverpool the No3 Ryanair base behind Stansted and Dublin, pretty impressive figures, since they made Liverpool a base in 2004.
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Prague is such a staple destination- it really needs a service from Liverpool. Ryanair doesn't do Prague in the Czech Republic, only Brno- I don't see a big market for Brno flights (hmmmm, I didnt see a big market for Tampere flights either, before today!), so maybe it would have to be an Easyjet route.
I really wonder if Easyjet will retract from Liverpool, in favour of Manchester? Ryanair was little threat until now, by flying to different destinations from Easy. Flying to the same airport of Krakow on the same days has to be a direct challenge- It will be an interesting few months, I reckon!
I really wonder if Easyjet will retract from Liverpool, in favour of Manchester? Ryanair was little threat until now, by flying to different destinations from Easy. Flying to the same airport of Krakow on the same days has to be a direct challenge- It will be an interesting few months, I reckon!
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I think the days of easyJet operating from Manchester are as far away as ever unless ej takes over Jet 2 or bmi Baby. All the routes that easyJet would operate are already well covered and I don't see a market for easyJet out of Manchester at the moment:
Manchester to
Malaga (5 airlines), Prague (2 airlines), Alicante (4), Palma (4), Barcelona (2),
Faro (3), Amsterdam (2), Paris (2) etc.
Manchester to
Malaga (5 airlines), Prague (2 airlines), Alicante (4), Palma (4), Barcelona (2),
Faro (3), Amsterdam (2), Paris (2) etc.
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If EZ opened a base at MAN, it is still under contract to retain its services from Liverpool until some year in the future (2017??), so it would probably open more niche routes from MAN than it would be able to from the smaller catchment area of LVL.
From MAN EZ would be more likely to open routes such as Riga, Ljubljana, Tallinn, Dortmund, Istanbul, Bilbao, Split etc, which do not have the same competition, either from existing MAN carriers, or to it LVL services.
Even if EZ did open routes from MAN to Prague, Alicante, Paris, Palma, Nice etc, I'm sure they would have the economies of scale and marketing advantages to compete profitably against the likes of Jet2, BMIBaby, BAConnect and Monarch...
Much as I love LVL, I think EZ would give a better range of destinations with greater frequency, if it focused on MAN instead of LVL! (+ Ryanair poses less of a threat at MAN)
From MAN EZ would be more likely to open routes such as Riga, Ljubljana, Tallinn, Dortmund, Istanbul, Bilbao, Split etc, which do not have the same competition, either from existing MAN carriers, or to it LVL services.
Even if EZ did open routes from MAN to Prague, Alicante, Paris, Palma, Nice etc, I'm sure they would have the economies of scale and marketing advantages to compete profitably against the likes of Jet2, BMIBaby, BAConnect and Monarch...
Much as I love LVL, I think EZ would give a better range of destinations with greater frequency, if it focused on MAN instead of LVL! (+ Ryanair poses less of a threat at MAN)
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Totally agree with Euroboy.
Would love to see EZY at MAN. This isn't an either/or situation - they could have viable ops at both LPL and MAN; after all they have significant bases at LTN, STN and LGW.
There are some easy (err sorry) pickings to be had at MAN still eg Venice - no operator from anywhere in the NW
(nooo RYR - Treviso is not in Venice) Basel - no operator from MAN despite a proven need - they were 3x daily (until Swiss fell out with Basel) and lots of people who will pay more than tuppence halfpenny to go there (CIBA GEIGY etc). Lisbon would be another no-brainer from MAN, others too.
Just cba going to LPL myself as I'd end up driving past MAN to get there - that would iritate me.
Would love to see EZY at MAN. This isn't an either/or situation - they could have viable ops at both LPL and MAN; after all they have significant bases at LTN, STN and LGW.
There are some easy (err sorry) pickings to be had at MAN still eg Venice - no operator from anywhere in the NW
(nooo RYR - Treviso is not in Venice) Basel - no operator from MAN despite a proven need - they were 3x daily (until Swiss fell out with Basel) and lots of people who will pay more than tuppence halfpenny to go there (CIBA GEIGY etc). Lisbon would be another no-brainer from MAN, others too. Just cba going to LPL myself as I'd end up driving past MAN to get there - that would iritate me.
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Funnily enough, there is not as much competition out of London for easyJet for Malaga for instance. Out of Stansted ej is the sole carrier on the route and only receive competition from 2 other scheduled airlines at Gatwick. There are already 5 airlines operating from Manchester to Malaga for instance.
For your information Treviso is as close to Venice as Marco Polo. Oh! and Bergamo is closer to Milan than Malpensa.
A catchment area is defined by routes offered rather than the geographical location of Liverpool or Manchester Airport. Liverpool and Manchester have there own local catchment areas for Dublin for instance but Liverpool has a larger catchment area for those wishing to travel to Poland for instance whilst Manchester has a larger catchment area for those wishing to travel to the USA for instance and so on......
For your information Treviso is as close to Venice as Marco Polo. Oh! and Bergamo is closer to Milan than Malpensa.
A catchment area is defined by routes offered rather than the geographical location of Liverpool or Manchester Airport. Liverpool and Manchester have there own local catchment areas for Dublin for instance but Liverpool has a larger catchment area for those wishing to travel to Poland for instance whilst Manchester has a larger catchment area for those wishing to travel to the USA for instance and so on......
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oh dear... some people will believe anything that Ryanair tell them. 
There seem to be a lot of armchair travel experts out there in Pruneland!
I know northern Italy very well.
You're completely wrong about Treviso and Marco Polo.
Bergamo Airport is slightly further away from Milan than MXP but it's travel distance and convenience that count here - where MXP wins hands down. Linate is virtually in Milan itself.
There seem to be a lot of armchair travel experts out there in Pruneland!
I know northern Italy very well.
You're completely wrong about Treviso and Marco Polo.
Bergamo Airport is slightly further away from Milan than MXP but it's travel distance and convenience that count here - where MXP wins hands down. Linate is virtually in Milan itself.
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I am no armchair travel expert my friend. I have travelled from both Trviso and Marco Polo into Venice and I have travelled from both Bergamo and Malpensa into Milan.
My comments are based on experiences having actually travelled between said airports and destination city and are not based on what Ryanair's say or by sitting at home!
My comments are based on experiences having actually travelled between said airports and destination city and are not based on what Ryanair's say or by sitting at home!
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Oh! and the leveller is price. For the great British public price is king. Also, a lot of Milan and Venice residents live closer to the secondary airports as well! I know Linate is in the city centre but then I didn't mention Linate in my comparisons
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The arrival last night from Bristol of the eighth based aircraft at Liverpool will enable EZY to the start the new route to Krakow later this afternoon.
Tomorrow will see the start of the Faro and Marseille routes.
Tomorrow will see the start of the Faro and Marseille routes.
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Originally Posted by Ametyst
I know Linate is in the city centre but then I didn't mention Linate in my comparisons
..and I didn't mention milan/bergamo in my original post if you'd care to read it. That mentioned Venice.
Posts at half 11 on a Saturday night - no friends? Do you work at passport control on the Runcorn/Widnes bridge?
Local threads for local people eh...the usual warm welcome in Liverpool for all those who dare not to come from Liverpool.
Jeez, you can't even spell Amethyst!
You're still wrong about Treviso/Marco Polo, I lived just outside Venice for 15 months - that's why I know. End of.
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Can we please end the bitchy bickering please? This is an aviation forum, where everyone's aviation related comments are welcome and not those posting such comments should not be subject to personal insults!
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Whoa! Snide remarks of the repeat kind are not welcome - Smart/a remarks either. I have taken someone off the board for a 'rest' - and that goes for anyone who cannot show respect for the right of reply or opinion. Hope that is clear.
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Exploration boreholes being carried out in car park opposite the main terminal for, it is rumoured, a multi story car park with hotel on top. This will be connected to the main building by a walkway to link up with level 2 by the John Lennon statue.
Pity it will mask the look of the terminal building but that is the price of expansion I suppose!
Pity it will mask the look of the terminal building but that is the price of expansion I suppose!